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Speaker 1
You're listening to Metal Game of Things, the greatest Metal Gear podcast ever. I don't agree with you on all the links on Monday. Every day. How did you patch into my radio frequency? That.

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Speaker 2
Ladies gears. Men, babies and gentle thems. You're listening to Metal Gear Mondays, the one stop Kojima shop for all things Metal Gear, death stranding. Back tie, Zona the Enders, snatcher, Police Knights and Penguin Adventure. In pseudo chronological order.

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Speaker 3
And tokamak Memorial and tokamak.

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Speaker 2
You water. Shout out Castlevania Lords of Shadows.

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Speaker 2
As always, I am your host, Alicia Summerfield. And this week I am joined by Lily Wright.

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Speaker 3
Hi.

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Speaker 2
And, James, write me.

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Speaker 1
Hello.

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Speaker 2
And very good combination of San Pellegrino, carbonated cherry water and vodka.

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Speaker 3
Now that's something.

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Speaker 2
We get in turn.

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Speaker 3
It is. It is funny. I was going to. I forgot to bring this up off Michael. Since you brought it up on mic. I think it's okay to say this now. Before we started recording, when we were, like, getting prepped and set up, Alessio sent me and James a message to said, hey, I'll be there in one second.

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Speaker 3
Going to grab water and a drink. And I said in my head, silly, water is a drink. And I was like.

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Speaker 1
Oh.

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Speaker 3
It's one of those days.

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Speaker 1
Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2
Yup. So I'm solo parenting. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
An extreme difficulty, mind you.

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Speaker 1
Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2
European extreme. Yeah. So for people on the video podcast, unless he's wearing a hat because he tried to do his hair before this, but time did not agree to get.

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Speaker 1


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Speaker 2
Yeah. I won't say what the hat is. Yeah. You should pay $10.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, $9 for the hat.

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Speaker 3
We need to stop explaining what's happening in the videos. Yeah, yeah. So curious that they have to pay $10 to.

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Speaker 1
See at least just happen.

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Speaker 2
Just curious. People like Ari Jordan, who's five.

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Speaker 1
Episode three.

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Speaker 2
Jordan, thank you so much. Read.

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Speaker 1
Thank you.

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Speaker 2
You if you want to be cool, like read, you can give us $10 a month. And, yeah, we need more of you because this list is getting like.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
No. I'm kidding. We actually have double the people. We've already shout it out remaining. Yeah, so that's good, but, But. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, you should do that. You give video podcast, you get a video version of the Patriot Club, which is our Patreon exclusive podcast, which you unlock at $5 a month. Pretty cool. And you can get access to a fun discord with a bunch of apparently new fathers with daughters.

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Speaker 2
There are so many of us in here. Goddammit, I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, it's while having,

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, for a dollar a month, life. And, for any amount of money a month, you get access to all of our prior bonus shit. So that's 65 hours of Patriot Club, which is Metal Gear Mondays. But for anything, we cover all kinds of silly stuff. Do you guys remember when we did Beyond Two Souls?

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Speaker 1
Oh, yeah, that was fun. Beyond sizzles, that one starred Elliot Page, right? Like actually did. Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3
Willem Dafoe.

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Speaker 1
Oh, God. Yeah yeah yeah. Something of, beyond to Salzman myself. Yeah. Was,

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Speaker 2
But yeah, you should listen to Patriot Club. It's fun. Revolving door of just weird topics. But for the new shit, you got to pay $5 a month, which includes a fun, listener dictated episode on serial. And, if you listen last week, you'll know that there's an upcoming expedition 33. Sorry. Clear. Obscure.

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Speaker 1
Clear. Obscure.

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Speaker 3
Let obscure that 1020.

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Speaker 1
For

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Speaker 2
Because verso is the only non-French name, chiaroscuro. If you want it to be Italian.

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Speaker 3
Oh, you just gotta always make it about the Italian.

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Speaker 1
Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 3
You can't. Les. Yeah. Just let it be about the French, man.

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Speaker 1
We're gonna play football at some point.

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Speaker 3
Go play lies of P. That's Italian.

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Speaker 1
That's Korean.

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Speaker 3
But it's it's based on Italian.

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Speaker 1
And Soviet names are Italian.

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Speaker 2
One day we'll make something cool that isn't a Beretta or an Alfa Romeo.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

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Speaker 1


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Speaker 2
I'm sorry. Ferrari. Admittedly, two in the car.

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Speaker 3
Two very cool things, but.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. That's it.

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Speaker 3
I also also have to follow up on last week just really quick, I did I did take the Kingdom Hearts Heartless keychain off of my purse because, it was jingle jangling too much. So there it is. If you're watching the video to.

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Speaker 1
Watch out for the jingle. Jingle.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. So I got to figure out what else. Pretty cool. Maybe like a backpack or something, but I'd.

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Speaker 2
Say that's like $10 to look at a month.

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Speaker 3
Cool. Yeah, I'd say it's worth $10. Callbacks and references and a heartless keychain.

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Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
But yeah. So what are we talking about this week, y'all?

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Speaker 1
They're starting to deliver in packages.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, our coverage of Death Stranding two continues, and we're actually going to get into this.

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Speaker 1
Really big.

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Speaker 2
Fucking game.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3
So as we've discussed, this episode is about chapters one and two of Death Stranding two. So chapter one, Sam and chapter two, Lulu.

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Speaker 2
You'll know the chapters because you'll get hit with a big black screen with white text that says episode number, blank with the header. And then a trophy will pop.

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Speaker 1
Trophy pop.

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Speaker 3
Yep. Which James missed somehow.

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Speaker 1
Is likely deep into episode three. And I was like, it's like up at 1231 in the morning. And I was like, this is, this feels like everybody else finish this really fast.

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Speaker 2
James is just like chain smoking and slamming black coffee.

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Speaker 1
Like, I got off. I got surrounded by Reese's peanut butter cups and a Red bull can. Oh yeah. Oh.

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Speaker 2
The Snickers peanut butter. That's.

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Speaker 3
Got, But as we, as we promise, what we're going to be doing is we're only going to be discussing, episode one and episode two of Death Stranding. Two. Right. In pretty chronological sequence. So the idea is that you can listen to this if you're playing along and you've you're playing along with us, you could you can beat chapter two and just be comfortable in the fact that we're not going to talk about anything beyond chapter two.

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Speaker 3
Yep. And, yeah.

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Speaker 2
And you know what to to guarantee that we won't. I am not going to play past, until after recordings.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. Same. Am I making the decision?

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
James is a rat. Fuck.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
James is like, yeah.

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Speaker 1
I'm. I'm on vacation this week, so I'm like, you know, I'm going to have to do a job next week.

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Speaker 2
James did the fucking changes that Evangelion pose with the hands and the glasses? That's great. That's great. The 1980s Hayao Miyazaki look at my other film, you know. But yeah. So that'll be I think.

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Speaker 3
For me, I think for me, it's like, that's going to be a way where I can play this in a calm fashion and really savor it and not hate it by the time I'm done with it. Because again, I do really want to like this game. My goal is to enjoy this game and so far it's happening.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, it's enjoyable.

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Speaker 2
As I am want to do. I think, if we weren't doing that, I would be like, I'm going to max out every fucking prepper relationship before I proceed forward.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, that is,

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Speaker 2
The Dragon Quest. Gene would kick in and I would just be like, nope.

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Speaker 1
It is. It is what it feels like. It's worse when I do pull away. Yeah, yeah. Just like, let me help you.

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Speaker 2
But, yeah. No, this will be fun. This will be good. I'm excited. And, for the first time since the show came back, I'm going to be using music from the game. Well, yeah, we got our, like, little portions of our episode, so the real editing starts here. I'll us. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
Hey, could you, queue here?

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Speaker 3
For.

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Speaker 3
Some.

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Speaker 3
Yes, yes, I if, I, I think I've, I've been for we get like really into it. I've been finding also that which is a good sign I've been finding that playing this game to the point that I played it and then going hands off until after this recording. I've been wanting to play it. Yeah, I've been like, I want to go back and play it.

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Speaker 3
I want that dopamine hit of like, seeing people like my stuff and use my stuff and I want I want the experience back. And so I for edge. Yeah, yeah, it's about to be goon stranding if I don't get back this fucking video game.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, it does feel good to see those likes Bob. I didn't experience that with how late I played the first one. And because when I played the first one, I didn't lay anything down. I wasn't I was not helpful. But now I'm like, yeah, I'm building community out here. That's something we we all have to show. But our own way is, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2
There's a certain there's a certain point that I'll flag where I almost was like, what if I built a lot of fucking generators here for the community?

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Speaker 1
Yeah, we'll we'll.

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Speaker 2
Talk about it. But it almost the pull of the narrative. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, I gotta get home, I gotta go.

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Speaker 3
Gotta get home. I, I want to talk about to, to maybe one mechanical thing I had to, but I literally forgot what it was. Oh, I will.

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Speaker 2
I will say if you do, if you do want to listen to more sort of generalities. Yeah. I mean, we're going to touch on the mechanics stuff as it comes up. Yeah. But if you want more of like, primer, I would say go back and listen to last episode, the first impressions. Because I think that sort of became like a, like a, like a pre episode.

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Speaker 1
Is like the prolog to the episode. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2
So definitely check that out. It's not just like a one off.

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Speaker 1
The spoiler I'll give for that. As I was, I was kind of a hater during the scoring segment on that. And I know, I know, I think in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3
I think it's fucking insane that both of you did not give graphics a five. This game looks like a fucking photograph. Like, what are you talking about? Like a like a four and a half. Give it a four and a half.

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Speaker 1
Just give it a more perfect.

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Speaker 2
Nothing. It's perfect.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, whatever. This game might get perfect on at least that it's insane how good this fucking. That's true, Chad. Chad's said that he gets to a point. One of the characters you get further along is just like, this is just a picture of this person. And it's like, yeah, fuck yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 1
I had somebody close ups are insane.

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Speaker 2
I had somebody text me saying that it looked photo fucking realistic, and then somebody else texted me and was like, the sound design is insane in this.

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Speaker 3
Sound design is wild. Yeah. It's really.

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Speaker 2
I will say 20, 2024 and 2025. I think just in general have been such good years for soundtracks and sound design.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I agree Joe, play with headphones.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, I try to at night.

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Speaker 3
I try to when I can I didn't, I didn't for this section, but I think when I get into.

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Speaker 1
A church, it is a beautiful idea for sound. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
I like some of like the pulse headphones.

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Speaker 1
Totally. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
Silent Hill two remake. Legit. Might be like the best sound design of 2024. Yeah, across the board. Fucking amazing.

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Speaker 3
So while I still can't think about the thing that I was thinking about, but I did want to give it to talk about the discovery that you made that you shared with us in our chat earlier.

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Speaker 1
About, oh, right, the screen, the cutscenes. Yeah, yeah. So if you're if you're in a cutscene and you pause, you have like the, the button you would use to open your ring menu, you'll see a bar at the bottom of the screen and what that bar is, Dragons telling you how much longer you have in that cutscene.

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Speaker 1
Which I love. I don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah. Pause. Menu of a cutscene. And I think every game that has longer cut scenes should have that feature. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3
No, it adds it be. It betrays a, like, a feeling of, self-awareness that I don't know that he's always had. So I think, I think that's a, that does give me, hope.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. I've noticed self-awareness. I've felt in some of them. In some of the longer ones, there will be, like a couple of, like checkboxes during them. So I think it's also a saving at certain points within the cutscenes.

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Speaker 2
Oh.

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Speaker 3
Interesting.

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Speaker 2
You imagine, like building save points into a cut scene.

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Speaker 3
I mean, yes, I can, because I've spent most of my childhood and adult life playing video games. Video games.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3
And that man has a needs fucking cut scene check points frequently. Yeah. Do you know what Metal Gear Solid four?

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Speaker 2
Dude, I think I told this story on the podcast, but I beat Metal Gear Solid for an hour before I had to be at work, and I literally had to pause it because I was running late for work.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I feel like that that game couldn't be made today because of, like the attention span.

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Speaker 2
Oh yeah. People would also rip it apart.

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Speaker 1
I feel like, well, that's scripted. Yeah, yeah, I get reviewed to death.

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Speaker 2
But yeah. So I guess let's talk about it. Let me I want to pull up a long play. Just so I can see, like the exact opening moment. So let me see really quickly. Wow. So apparently I don't know how they did this, so somebody did a no commentary 4K 65 Pro gameplay long play, and it's 21 hours long.

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Speaker 1
Hell yeah.

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Speaker 3
Of the whole game or.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, allegedly.

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Speaker 3
So so here's what I'll say. Alex. Fucking psychopath.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. There's another one here that's 26 hours long.

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Speaker 3
He said that he rolled credits at 34 hours. So I think these these 75 hour check marks are like, like benchmarks are greatly exaggerated.

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Speaker 1
It seems like. Yeah, I think it probably depends on how much you're exploring. And.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's because it does.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Like I think that's what you're contributing to the community or you being a good community member. They're scoring you on that.

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Speaker 2
Now Alex, if you're listening, you're a horrible member of the community.

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Speaker 3
Well he well listen he his his clock time was was longer than those that's long place. So that's like a full, like ten hours longer. So it's maybe he isn't a horrible member of the community and it's just a 40 hour game.

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Speaker 2
I got to try really hard to not scrub ahead, because it should be a bunch of little thumbnails of things that I don't know, I wanted to say.

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Speaker 1
Oh, yeah, watch out.

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Speaker 2
Can't. Thankfully, I can't quite make out what that was, so I'm just gonna ignore that I saw that.

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Speaker 3
Expunge that from your brain.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. So kind of like Metal Gear Solid for this game. Opens with some text. I was very surprised that the text that the game opens with is not voiced. So it's kind.

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Speaker 3
Of. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
Because chunk of time.

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Speaker 3
To Sam because Sam voices that opening text in the first one doesn't he. Yeah. Yeah yeah or Norman.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2
And I really it's really interesting. Right. Because it opens with a single sentence and the sentence is like, sorry, I just had it pulled up and now it's gone. The sentence was first there was an explosion. I think it's what it was. One second it was the same.

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Speaker 3
That was the same thing. It's just to to.

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Speaker 2
Once there was an explosion. And that's it. It's just white. White text in a black background. But then you get the, like, cool, iconic shot of the beach with all the whales beached and stuff. But then interestingly, it like very succinctly, I thought in like six sentences is just sort of like, this is what Death Stranding is.

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Speaker 2
This is what beats are. This is what the stakes are. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, they did it in six sentences. Like, I feel like I've got a pretty good understanding of what the fuck is going on. And then there's just this really cool moment where, like, it shows like, again, a little bit of text when there's not some cool shit going on in the background where it's just essentially kind of telling you like, hey, the cities are empty, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it does this really fucking cool cut back where it's like the same sort of beach shot, but with these like.

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Speaker 1
Surfer monoliths.

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Speaker 2
Just like sticking out of the ground. And you hear people talking like conversations as if you're like, standing in a server room and you're hearing like a hundred scapes happening at the same time.

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Speaker 3
Very cool.

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Speaker 2
And just seeing, like, I don't know if anybody who's listening remembers the original game teasers back in the day where you would see, was it seven? It's like seven people that were.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, the people. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, there are so many more people. Yo.

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Speaker 1
It's crazy.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. There's like hundreds of people now.

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Speaker 2
I don't recall. Do you remember what the seven people were supposed to signify? Was that the different extinction events?

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Speaker 3
Yeah, I think so. Each one was a representation of the like which continent?

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Speaker 1
Right. Yep.

00;19;07;22 - 00;19;16;01
Speaker 3
Oh, I think so. Something like that. It might have been, but like it. If that's the case, it does not bode well that there are so many figures in the sky.

00;19;16;01 - 00;19;19;09
Speaker 1
Now what is that that's concerning.

00;19;19;11 - 00;19;34;27
Speaker 2
It's really cool though. It's like to me that was a very striking visual. And then it just hits us with the 11 months later. So Death Stranding two takes place 11 months after the original game. I'm assuming after the conclusion of the original game.

00;19;35;00 - 00;19;41;18
Speaker 1
Yeah. Which, yeah, I don't remember the time span of the original game. Like, how long from since it happened?

00;19;41;18 - 00;19;46;14
Speaker 3
The original game ends pretty like it ends like it doesn't skip forward.

00;19;46;19 - 00;19;46;27
Speaker 1
Very.

00;19;46;27 - 00;20;03;07
Speaker 3
Much at all. Like I think he does. He beats it. He beats that fucking whale. And then he, like, takes. He like, takes a nap for like five days. And then. And then he has that conversation with diehard man. And then he goes up to incinerate Lou.

00;20;03;09 - 00;20;10;18
Speaker 1
That. Oh that's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah. Can we, can we talk about how gorgeous this next section is?

00;20;10;18 - 00;20;19;12
Speaker 2
This whole 100%? Yeah, we did talk about it a little bit last episode, but like, yeah, the visuals or the landscape in particular is fuckin.

00;20;19;14 - 00;20;28;01
Speaker 3
Yeah. Not like just like, yeah, Grand slam, just like a fucking Nat Geo documentary just kind of happening. Like it's just like, this is just planet Earth.

00;20;28;08 - 00;20;41;00
Speaker 2
Yeah. There's a moment. I think it's when Elle Fanning's credit is on screen, when it shows, like a cave structure in legitimately looks like a fucking photograph. Yeah, like it's crazy.

00;20;41;02 - 00;20;54;25
Speaker 3
If there was one, there was one where I was like, okay, I, my brain can, like, calm down for a second because it was like that, really. Like it might have been the cave structure, but it was like this photorealistic. And then there's like weird things with these.

00;20;54;28 - 00;20;56;16
Speaker 2
Oh yeah. Yeah, that's the thing is.

00;20;56;20 - 00;21;00;20
Speaker 3
Yeah, that's. Yeah, that was the one where I was just like, this looks or just. But also what the fuck is that?

00;21;00;22 - 00;21;01;19
Speaker 1
What is that thing?

00;21;01;22 - 00;21;23;26
Speaker 2
And it with the very first voice that you hear period is like, say do, fragile, you know, giving like a monologue about how much she loves porters, and kind of goes off on this weird. Like, I don't know how to describe it. It's almost like somebody monologuing about how dope the Postal Service is and, like, going through the, like the, the motto.

00;21;23;26 - 00;21;25;21
Speaker 2
A little bit of like,

00;21;25;24 - 00;21;30;06
Speaker 1
Neither rain or like the tree. Yeah. Yeah.

00;21;30;09 - 00;21;34;18
Speaker 2
Which, like, God bless people who work for the US Postal Service. Like.

00;21;34;21 - 00;21;39;12
Speaker 3
I was gonna say more, more people need to do monologues about how dope the Postal Service.

00;21;39;15 - 00;21;40;27
Speaker 2
Yeah, 100%.

00;21;41;02 - 00;21;43;01
Speaker 1
Sure. The Postal Service.

00;21;43;04 - 00;21;44;08
Speaker 2
Yeah, which I.

00;21;44;08 - 00;21;46;16
Speaker 1
Think it does. Thank your postal workers.

00;21;46;19 - 00;21;54;10
Speaker 2
He's. He's gonna kill me. But who's our guy? Is it Matt? Matt? Yeah. What's. Matt. Matt f is that what it is?

00;21;54;10 - 00;21;55;10
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean.

00;21;55;10 - 00;22;05;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. So, Matt, shout out to our postal brethren out in the wild. May you deliver in peace.

00;22;05;21 - 00;22;12;25
Speaker 1
They hear you're listening to this while he's delivering. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like. Okay, so pat on the back, I hope so.

00;22;12;25 - 00;22;20;25
Speaker 2
This is what I was referring to on last episode. So Tommy Earl Jenkins and Margaret Qualley are namechecked in these opening credits?

00;22;21;00 - 00;22;21;21
Speaker 1
Yes.

00;22;21;24 - 00;22;36;08
Speaker 2
Because I'm a total fucking moron. After recording last episode, we all went on Google and discovered that, Tommy Earl Jenkins is character, aka Die Hard Man, aka James Blake McClane. Yeah. Never died unless he was an idiot.

00;22;36;11 - 00;22;49;18
Speaker 3
I would like to point out that I. I was the one that told you that because I asked you. I asked you off. Like, who the fuck are you talking about? Because I was like, I don't remember. And like this people, this person dying. And it's like, he didn't die. It is kind of.

00;22;49;18 - 00;22;55;28
Speaker 1
Like, yeah, I don't know why. I guess he didn't. So yeah, I could have sworn I also validated. Yeah. You're not alone.

00;22;56;00 - 00;23;05;27
Speaker 3
I yeah. Because the three characters they show, they show Die Hard, man. They show Lochner and they show, dead man. Right?

00;23;05;29 - 00;23;06;08
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;23;06;12 - 00;23;19;16
Speaker 3
So. So obviously mama died in the first one, but Loch Ness still kick in. Yeah. And then we obviously deal with Dead Man by the end of this episode. But yeah, I'm curious.

00;23;19;20 - 00;23;21;15
Speaker 2
I forgot about mama's twin.

00;23;21;17 - 00;23;30;04
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah I had forgotten about that too. It took me a second to remember that. Yeah, I had a twin and they merged.

00;23;30;06 - 00;23;31;00
Speaker 2
But then the.

00;23;31;00 - 00;23;32;21
Speaker 3
Moment. Right. They merged. That's.

00;23;32;25 - 00;23;33;12
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00;23;33;14 - 00;23;38;17
Speaker 1
In the car. Yeah. I'm like,

00;23;38;19 - 00;23;39;25
Speaker 3
Yeah, I gonna come.

00;23;39;26 - 00;23;41;05
Speaker 2
That's going to come up again.

00;23;41;07 - 00;23;45;28
Speaker 3
It is. This is such. These games are such fucking bullshit. But it's just like, man.

00;23;46;00 - 00;23;48;13
Speaker 2
Why do you like a lady in the soul, goddamn it.

00;23;48;16 - 00;23;51;03
Speaker 3
Like the. In the car.

00;23;51;05 - 00;23;54;13
Speaker 2
The car older than it.

00;23;54;15 - 00;23;59;11
Speaker 3
What is the, do a hacker?

00;23;59;13 - 00;24;05;14
Speaker 2
The. The car, the Risa, the just,

00;24;05;17 - 00;24;14;08
Speaker 1
An old dirty bastard. Yeah.

00;24;14;10 - 00;24;17;15
Speaker 1
Fully. I'm going to start.

00;24;17;15 - 00;24;26;15
Speaker 2
Calling Sam the ODB whenever we're playing the stream. Yeah, except he's ogbe the old greasy bad.

00;24;26;17 - 00;24;30;10
Speaker 3
It's calling the the old jeep. The old greasy.

00;24;30;10 - 00;24;30;25
Speaker 1
Porter.

00;24;30;26 - 00;24;31;15
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah.

00;24;31;22 - 00;24;32;27
Speaker 3
Yeah, you know me.

00;24;32;29 - 00;25;00;11
Speaker 2
But the first time we see a Jeep, a little baby hand breaks the frame, and grabs that man's face and Alessio starts to feel emotional urges. Yeah. Guys, I, I said this in chat yesterday, but playing this game I like whenever I was hanging out with my kid later on in the day, I felt, like, weirdly sad.

00;25;00;13 - 00;25;01;18
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;25;01;20 - 00;25;06;23
Speaker 2
And it's just like, I just, I don't know, I've been, like, appreciating and chilling with my daughter a lot.

00;25;06;29 - 00;25;11;09
Speaker 1
And I'm four hours into this game.

00;25;11;11 - 00;25;18;16
Speaker 2
Yeah. So shout shout outs to the to the parents out there. Yeah.

00;25;18;18 - 00;25;34;23
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's been an interesting experience. I would think with any like do you feel, do you experience this in games or like movies often or do you feel like especially pulled with, like the presentation of this?

00;25;34;29 - 00;25;42;06
Speaker 2
So this is the first video game I think I've played since having a kid, where there is a one and a half year old.

00;25;42;10 - 00;25;44;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, like very timely.

00;25;44;09 - 00;25;54;03
Speaker 2
Which is insane because my daughter's the exact age. And I will say so Kristen and I put ourselves through the emotional torture that is watching The Leftovers.

00;25;54;05 - 00;25;54;24
Speaker 1
Oh, shit.

00;25;54;26 - 00;26;08;09
Speaker 2
And so we watched all three seasons of The Leftovers and like, a month, I think I legitimately had, like, openly sobbing levels of crying once an episode of.

00;26;08;12 - 00;26;09;27
Speaker 1
Like, yeah, yeah.

00;26;09;29 - 00;26;18;26
Speaker 2
For those of you who don't know, you should absolutely go check it out. But it's like, imagine if Damon Lindelof got to do an R-rated lost that had to do with, like, the rapture happening.

00;26;18;28 - 00;26;20;06
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;26;20;09 - 00;26;40;08
Speaker 2
So yeah, the show literally opens with somebody, whose baby gets raptured and it's like the most fucking heartbreaking, like three minutes, I think I've seen of anything. But, yeah, you should go check that out. Leftovers is sick. Lily, James, can we talk about how fucking gorgeous this opening.

00;26;40;08 - 00;26;41;25
Speaker 1
Beautiful shot is?

00;26;41;27 - 00;27;01;17
Speaker 3
It's it's. I was not like it was one of those things where you get through that opening montage and the opening credits and stuff like that, and then it pans down into, like, the bottom of this, the, like, top of this mountain, the bottom of this, top of this mountain. Listen to me. The the ground of where?

00;27;01;17 - 00;27;04;02
Speaker 2
Inside of the mountain. It is the bottom of the top.

00;27;04;04 - 00;27;29;29
Speaker 3
Yeah. So? So it kind of like pans along the ground and it pans up and you, you get this scene of Lou reaching up and right and like, waking Sam up, and then he stands up and I'm just like, surely not. Surely you just. This cannot be what happens. And it zooms out and then you're just playing and it looks the same.

00;27;30;03 - 00;27;32;19
Speaker 1
Yeah. I'm just like, what the fuck?

00;27;32;20 - 00;27;43;10
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's like, this is crazy. Well, the level of depth to it was sort of like similar to that, like first time playing, VR game.

00;27;43;13 - 00;27;44;12
Speaker 1
Oh yeah. It was just.

00;27;44;12 - 00;27;57;24
Speaker 2
Sort of this like, Holy fuck, there is so much dimensionality to this and we'll talk about it. But at first I was like, surely this is gorgeous skybox and not anything more, you can.

00;27;57;24 - 00;28;01;04
Speaker 1
Walk to all of it wherever you want.

00;28;01;05 - 00;28;11;17
Speaker 2
It's insane. It is like, so open that I started to get scared halfway through the walk. I was just like, wait a minute, what if I fall?

00;28;11;19 - 00;28;36;09
Speaker 3
Yeah. And it's like. And it's just so crazy too, because it's just this. This happens in a, you know, it feels to me like a sea change a little bit because obviously you're going to get the Kojima weirdness and it's going to be Death Stranding. It's going to be a Kojima game. But it's just like in contrast to the first one, like it kicks you in to what you're doing very quickly.

00;28;36;11 - 00;28;49;12
Speaker 3
Very. We touched on that last time last week, but it's like it gives you that opening montage, the credits, the little monologue. That whole thing takes maybe like 3 or 4 minutes and then it's like, off you go.

00;28;49;15 - 00;28;58;14
Speaker 2
From the very first moment that you have control based on what I'm looking at, takes four minutes and 50s from hitting the start button.

00;28;58;16 - 00;28;59;23
Speaker 1
All of that.

00;28;59;26 - 00;29;04;29
Speaker 3
And you're just walking and it's telling you how to do the things and it's like you're just going. Your goal is like.

00;29;04;29 - 00;29;06;10
Speaker 2
Hey, the music is excellent.

00;29;06;17 - 00;29;11;23
Speaker 3
The music is excellent. The first thing is just like, hey, use your compass to figure out where you're going and go.

00;29;11;29 - 00;29;25;19
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's like, well, in general the game feels really balanced for like getting you into the action as fast as it can, like from the moment you like, hit the start tile to the moment you're in the game. I feel like it's less than 30s like this game loads.

00;29;25;22 - 00;29;47;09
Speaker 2
Oh yeah. No, I noticed that yesterday I was I was fucking blown away because like, I was playing some other stuff, on and off and like, normal ass loading times, right? It's like I hit start, I gotta wait 30s blah blah, blah. With this. I hit start on the main menu and I'm not even fucking kidding. Like, it may have been less than three seconds.

00;29;47;09 - 00;29;49;00
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, it just go where it was.

00;29;49;00 - 00;29;53;10
Speaker 3
I'm playing and and I'm pretty sure it's the same for both of you, but I'm playing on a base five.

00;29;53;11 - 00;29;53;25
Speaker 2
Yeah. Same.

00;29;53;25 - 00;29;55;06
Speaker 1
So this is.

00;29;55;08 - 00;29;58;10
Speaker 2
I think give me an A based.

00;29;58;13 - 00;29;59;11
Speaker 1
AP.

00;29;59;13 - 00;30;01;21
Speaker 3
Man. Man man.

00;30;01;24 - 00;30;15;04
Speaker 2
No, it's fucking wild. Part of me wants to be a psychopath and just, like, start a new game to just try to inspect all the, like, ice cubes melting in real time shit that could never do it on, like, MGS.

00;30;15;06 - 00;30;16;07
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;30;16;10 - 00;30;39;26
Speaker 2
Because just looking at this person who's playing, like, lose, just doing shit while you're doing shit, like, she's like, moving around. She's looking around. She's moving her limbs independently of Sam. Like it's wild. So I'm sure there is a ton of little tiny fucking detail. I'm sure there's going to be a top 100 small details you missed in death straight into YouTube compilation.

00;30;39;28 - 00;30;49;29
Speaker 1
Although, did you at all feel, any MGS five flashbacks with being dropped into like, a desert location so quickly?

00;30;50;01 - 00;31;11;21
Speaker 2
Kind of. I was a little. So I guess I'm gonna let this show, that I kind of alluded to last episode. I thought we were in Australia because I had heard links of Australia. So when later on, it becomes evident that you are, in fact, in Mexico. I was very confused.

00;31;11;23 - 00;31;12;10
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;31;12;12 - 00;31;14;25
Speaker 2
I was like, oh, did we just travel?

00;31;14;28 - 00;31;16;06
Speaker 1
No. Instantaneous.

00;31;16;06 - 00;31;30;13
Speaker 3
No, no, that's what I was alluding to last week where like, the idea was like, he's trying to escape the UK. Yeah. And so he's just going as far south as possible. And the closest the place he can be right now is the border. And he just so happens to be like right next to the border of Mexico.

00;31;30;15 - 00;31;42;26
Speaker 3
But again, the topography and the the way the job is, are so is beautiful. But it's, it's fuck yeah. And it's like, yeah, yeah this is what it's the and it's just like, this is not what Mexico looks like.

00;31;42;28 - 00;31;43;09
Speaker 1
Oh I.

00;31;43;09 - 00;31;48;09
Speaker 2
Guess I guess you get hit with a quote unquote gate quake.

00;31;48;11 - 00;31;50;22
Speaker 3
During. Yeah. While you're walking in it.

00;31;50;22 - 00;31;52;22
Speaker 2
So do we want to talk about what that is?

00;31;52;25 - 00;32;15;09
Speaker 3
Yeah. I. It's it's like an it's like an earthquake, but there's like some type of they explain it. They explain it later on when you're talking to Dead Man a little bit, but it's just like this, this gate, these gates have opened up across, like the world. I think it is. I may need some help here, but it's like these gates have opened up across the world.

00;32;15;11 - 00;32;27;05
Speaker 2
I think they specifically just talk about the one that's on the border. Yeah, North and South America. But yeah, allegedly, it's more than like, obviously there has to be another side because you hear about that part.

00;32;27;05 - 00;32;33;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. Which I, which I, and I don't know this. So this isn't a spoiler, but I imagine that's how you get to Australia as you use the game.

00;32;33;29 - 00;32;34;11
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;32;34;13 - 00;32;51;20
Speaker 3
In Mexico or in South America to then get to Australia. So I imagine Australia is on the other side, but it just causes these like huge earthquakes to happen. And like you're walking and one of them happens and you just see like parts of the part of the mountain, just go and just.

00;32;51;22 - 00;32;53;11
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;32;53;13 - 00;32;54;26
Speaker 3
Holy shit.

00;32;54;28 - 00;33;10;27
Speaker 1
Yeah. And they in play, I think, I think fragile might actually talk about it a little bit when you meet up with her. But essentially, like it's started when Sam started reconnecting North America like these, gates started appearing.

00;33;10;29 - 00;33;14;23
Speaker 3
Yeah. It just kept on getting like worse as he did more.

00;33;14;26 - 00;33;24;06
Speaker 1
Yeah. More quakes I think the gates get like more like bigger like taller like more complete or something. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

00;33;24;08 - 00;33;34;02
Speaker 2
Yeah. The jump from quake one to quake two was pretty massive. Just in terms of scope and scale.

00;33;34;04 - 00;33;36;29
Speaker 1
I'm sorry. Wow.

00;33;37;01 - 00;33;52;00
Speaker 2
But it's really cool too, because, like, the environment is like, I guess allegedly dynamically being shaped by this because it happens again. Before we get to the end of this episode, there will be more gate quakes. Yeah. And when they do happen, the environment just falls apart.

00;33;52;02 - 00;33;53;02
Speaker 1
Does change.

00;33;53;04 - 00;34;01;22
Speaker 3
I almost got walloped by that second one. Okay, I see it. I was not prepared. I felt like I was playing Donkey Kong.

00;34;01;24 - 00;34;05;09
Speaker 1
Hell yeah. Okay.

00;34;05;11 - 00;34;19;17
Speaker 2
How long did you all fuck around? I feel like we could probably condense the time between now and Sam getting to his hideout. Yeah, pretty quickly, but just. I guess, as an aside, how much did you guys fuck around, or did you kind of beeline for where you needed you guys, right?

00;34;19;18 - 00;34;29;26
Speaker 1
Yeah, I, I fucked around. Go ahead. Because I tell you, mostly I was mostly fucking around with the dynamic music.

00;34;29;29 - 00;34;34;26
Speaker 3
Because I use that dynamic music, man. You are, you are. Oh, I was just.

00;34;35;01 - 00;34;51;11
Speaker 1
I was just so curious because they talked so much about it. And so I was like, you know, what's what's it all about? So I like, tried like I was like starting and stopping and like, running real fast and then crouching and walking real slow, like going up and down hills and seeing, see like how it would react.

00;34;51;13 - 00;34;53;10
Speaker 2
I wish I could see that in real life.

00;34;53;13 - 00;34;53;26
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;34;53;27 - 00;34;55;22
Speaker 1
I wish was like recorded that time.

00;34;55;22 - 00;35;01;00
Speaker 3
Lapsed it with the Benny the Benny Hill music playing behind it.

00;35;01;02 - 00;35;07;13
Speaker 2
James is just standing at a four way intersection in Saint Louis. Just moving really fast.

00;35;07;15 - 00;35;17;14
Speaker 1
Oh, I also just, like, out of sick impulse, died a couple times because I just, like, jumped just to see. How far can I jump?

00;35;17;16 - 00;35;19;12
Speaker 3
You had that. You jump. You had.

00;35;19;14 - 00;35;23;12
Speaker 1
B. What happened to that play V I wait.

00;35;23;14 - 00;35;26;21
Speaker 2
If Sam voids out with Lulu with him.

00;35;26;23 - 00;35;27;18
Speaker 3
Oh, God.

00;35;27;21 - 00;35;31;15
Speaker 2
Is she. Does she just die? Well, she's a bridge baby though, right?

00;35;31;15 - 00;35;33;06
Speaker 3
So she's an entity of Sam because she.

00;35;33;06 - 00;35;34;24
Speaker 2
Come back to life like.

00;35;34;26 - 00;35;36;15
Speaker 3
That. Maybe. Maybe.

00;35;36;17 - 00;35;37;07
Speaker 1
Oh.

00;35;37;09 - 00;35;41;13
Speaker 2
Is that going to take. Nevermind. We'll get to that. Okay.

00;35;41;16 - 00;36;01;01
Speaker 3
I, I fucked around a decent amount at first, and then the thing that I felt like I was entered into a scared straight program because as you're walking, if you go along a certain way, you see a cluster of those fucking beat spiders. Oh, interesting. Oh, no. Shit. Yeah, that was the first time I saw them. So Spider Hill, I talked about Spider Hill last time they were.

00;36;01;01 - 00;36;04;12
Speaker 3
There were just like a cluster. I'm just hanging out in the fucking mountain.

00;36;04;14 - 00;36;11;04
Speaker 2
No one. It reminds me of an episode of Venture Brothers. Go Fight or Skull Island.

00;36;11;06 - 00;36;19;07
Speaker 3
I think about, I think about, was it Peter Gabriel? Climbing up on Spider Hill?

00;36;19;10 - 00;36;22;00
Speaker 2
Oh, it's, Paul Simon.

00;36;22;03 - 00;36;22;22
Speaker 3
Is it possible?

00;36;22;22 - 00;36;23;11
Speaker 2
Simon.

00;36;23;14 - 00;36;29;04
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah, it might be Paul. Simon. Saul. Spawn. Now, I don't know.

00;36;29;06 - 00;36;38;25
Speaker 2
Sorry. Like Peter Gabriel, I do wonder there's a part of me that, there's a part of me that wonders. Like, how far can you go at the beginning?

00;36;38;26 - 00;36;41;00
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;36;41;03 - 00;36;48;22
Speaker 2
Because seemingly, like, you see, like, player items, maybe not player items, but there are just, like, items that you just, like, cross.

00;36;48;23 - 00;36;49;26
Speaker 3
Off in the distance.

00;36;49;26 - 00;36;55;05
Speaker 2
Yeah. So it's like, I don't know, there's a part of me that wonders like, can you just fucking go?

00;36;55;07 - 00;36;58;17
Speaker 3
He's spent an hour in this area just looking and grabbing things and.

00;36;58;17 - 00;37;20;13
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Can we talk about the secret hideout? Because, listener listener of the show, previous supporter shout out Sam Lemke sent me a text and said, I thought no one but Sam could see beats. So how is this going to keep anyone out? And now I'm curious.

00;37;20;15 - 00;37;27;07
Speaker 3
That's actually really interesting. I wonder.

00;37;27;09 - 00;37;28;14
Speaker 1
Like, that's a good point.

00;37;28;18 - 00;37;41;21
Speaker 2
Also, the weather changes, do you know? So anyway, Sam, Sam comes across this little area and you're like, wait a minute. On the map, it says that's where his home is, but there's nothing there. And there's fucking beats and it's creepy and raining.

00;37;41;22 - 00;37;46;00
Speaker 3
He's just walking through them. I'm just like, oh, is he. Has he like, tamed the beat?

00;37;46;02 - 00;37;55;07
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's what I thought I was like, is this neo post matrix where he's just like, I got this, I can see the code. But no, it's a hologram. The whole thing is fake.

00;37;55;10 - 00;37;56;27
Speaker 3
The weather to like the rain.

00;37;56;27 - 00;38;03;15
Speaker 2
Yeah. It becomes like a beautiful sunny day when he turns the hologram off. But anyway, yeah, it's an interesting question.

00;38;03;15 - 00;38;12;04
Speaker 3
I wonder, because I think I'm trying to remember if it's fragile or one of them met. Somebody mentions that, like, more people are developing dudes.

00;38;12;06 - 00;38;23;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, anybody with dooms can see them. And and fragile alludes to the fact that like as Doom's progresses. Yeah. You can see them more clearly.

00;38;23;12 - 00;38;24;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. Interesting.

00;38;24;20 - 00;38;48;12
Speaker 3
Because he also like. Because obviously he doesn't have a baby unit with him when he goes on this trek through Mexico and he leaves Lou at the, at the place and like, he mentions like, well, if I get close enough, I can still see them. So I imagine, like there is now like because of, like all the connections and like everything happening and I imagine more people maybe know what it's look like up close now.

00;38;48;14 - 00;38;49;06
Speaker 2
Yeah, maybe.

00;38;49;11 - 00;38;54;24
Speaker 3
Especially especially the UK who's looking for him, which is who the track would be for.

00;38;54;24 - 00;39;02;05
Speaker 2
So yeah my I'm try to remember what my like gut. I can actually probably pull up the chat. My like gut reaction.

00;39;02;05 - 00;39;11;27
Speaker 1
Was hold on, hold on, hold on. My gut reaction was.

00;39;11;29 - 00;39;24;11
Speaker 2
That maybe, people can't see the bits that they could just hear and feel the presence of the fake bits. Yeah, maybe. And then like them because Sam can see them.

00;39;24;13 - 00;39;31;21
Speaker 3
Yeah, that could be like, basically like diegetic like that. Maybe, could be to I think either one is maybe.

00;39;31;24 - 00;39;35;10
Speaker 2
Yeah, plausible. Anyway, I thought it was an interesting question, so I thought I'd bring it to the table.

00;39;35;10 - 00;39;39;12
Speaker 3
That was. That's very interesting. That was like I was like, actually. Yeah, I didn't think about that at all. And it's interesting.

00;39;39;12 - 00;39;48;23
Speaker 2
Yeah. Also the other thing, so once you get here, we get this very cute moment of Sam listening to music and cooking food for violin.

00;39;48;23 - 00;39;49;01
Speaker 3
On.

00;39;49;01 - 00;39;49;22
Speaker 1
My head.

00;39;49;25 - 00;39;56;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's super awesome moment. And then this mysterious stranger pulls up on a unicycle.

00;39;57;01 - 00;40;15;06
Speaker 3
Well, really quick. I do want to, I want to I want to talk about just just a couple of the little things that happened during this, like cute little scene. Yeah. The time, the time for nom nom thing. Yeah. Very few. Great. I love how it like because because he's like cooking. He's like cleaning the pan and like, after he's like tasting the food and everything like that.

00;40;15;08 - 00;40;31;09
Speaker 3
And then like, Lou runs this little like. And from a first person perspective, he sees a little toy, like, run into Sam's ankle and he goes, hey. And then he turns and he like, bends. And he picks up Lou and he's like, he's like, good job, little Porter. And he kisses her on the forehead and then like, goes for time for nom nom.

00;40;31;14 - 00;40;53;17
Speaker 3
Yeah. And then it zooms in to a picture of him feeding her. And then it goes to the scene of him feeding her. And she's got like, fucking meth all over her face and she's like clutching at her face because she's tired and stuff like that. It's just, it's an incredibly like it is a it. It is levity that I don't know that the first one ever had in the same way.

00;40;53;19 - 00;40;58;24
Speaker 3
Yeah. And it's like, this just feels nice. Yeah. Feels cozy.

00;40;58;24 - 00;41;13;07
Speaker 1
It feels like it has a creator command of genre. Yeah. Have in the past. Yeah. Especially in Death Stranding. One. Death stranding one the first. Like, like five hours or so each. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;41;13;09 - 00;41;28;02
Speaker 3
And, and this ties back into this like. Yeah, I think Alessio mentioned it. I think everybody kind of agreed that, like, the visual storytelling and just like the simple way it kind of tells like, here's what Sam's life is like now and here's what they've been doing. It's it's really well done.

00;41;28;09 - 00;41;28;18
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;41;28;18 - 00;41;52;09
Speaker 2
Yeah I feel yeah, I feel like had this been Metal Gear Solid for, somebody would be talking to Sam and he would be telling you every single fucking detail about every photo on that wall. Yeah, yeah. The one thing that. So two things you can clearly tell that they only had one character model for baby Lou from day one and one character model for Lou from these two.

00;41;52;12 - 00;42;01;13
Speaker 2
As somebody with an 18 month old, this child looks totally fucking different every two months. So essentially seeing these photos where it was like fetus.

00;42;01;13 - 00;42;05;18
Speaker 1
Jar or fully grown child.

00;42;05;21 - 00;42;08;23
Speaker 2
I was like, did they not take any pictures in between for.

00;42;08;23 - 00;42;12;15
Speaker 1
A very long time? Well, it's very funny actually.

00;42;12;18 - 00;42;20;11
Speaker 2
So that part was funny. And then the other part too is like, my daughter can absolutely fucking run free standing right now.

00;42;20;11 - 00;42;27;02
Speaker 3
And well, again, we we did Louis again, we talked about, Edith is about six months older than Lou is.

00;42;27;02 - 00;42;29;06
Speaker 2
I thought she's supposed to be 18 months.

00;42;29;08 - 00;42;37;03
Speaker 3
No, because we talked. We talked about this. It's, 11 months later, and Louis is like an infant. An infant? And one at the end of one.

00;42;37;06 - 00;42;42;18
Speaker 2
So she's grown. I don't know where I read the year and a half line, but, yeah, no.

00;42;42;22 - 00;42;47;28
Speaker 3
Yeah, they're in the same, like, really? In the end, I think she's either either this has like it has half a year.

00;42;48;00 - 00;42;51;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. That makes it makes sense.

00;42;51;20 - 00;42;53;27
Speaker 1
Yeah. At least got pick up the pace is what we're getting at though.

00;42;53;27 - 00;42;54;27
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah. Come on girl.

00;42;55;00 - 00;42;56;07
Speaker 1
We got them legs.

00;42;56;09 - 00;43;03;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. And she also has a very sweet I mentioned this a little bit last episode of Very Sweet Order man themed crib.

00;43;03;21 - 00;43;05;09
Speaker 3
It's so cute.

00;43;05;13 - 00;43;11;13
Speaker 2
So Conan Conan's Katy lives on Kony 2012.

00;43;11;15 - 00;43;12;19
Speaker 1
That's right.

00;43;12;21 - 00;43;18;23
Speaker 3
And then one more question before we move on about Kony 2025.

00;43;18;26 - 00;43;21;16
Speaker 1
He's, right. Is he? I think.

00;43;21;20 - 00;43;22;20
Speaker 3
He's.

00;43;22;23 - 00;43;23;02
Speaker 1


00;43;23;02 - 00;43;24;19
Speaker 2
I mean, at the time that that campaign.

00;43;24;22 - 00;43;35;20
Speaker 3
Had. Right? Yeah. Yeah. He was no. So before we get into this mysterious stranger on the unicycle, I want to know specifically for the new CEO.

00;43;35;22 - 00;43;37;04
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;43;37;06 - 00;43;42;06
Speaker 3
The first time you heard Lou's babbling come out of the controller. What did that do to it?

00;43;42;06 - 00;43;46;09
Speaker 2
You made me think that Edith was still awake now. Yeah.

00;43;46;12 - 00;43;47;08
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;43;47;11 - 00;44;07;07
Speaker 2
And number two, I mean, I'll, I'll say it again. From the moment you have to soothe her while you're walking on the ridge, the moment she goes from crying to giggling, I just immediately had tears in my eyes, like it was just very. I don't know how to describe that. Like, it's almost involuntary.

00;44;07;10 - 00;44;08;01
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;44;08;03 - 00;44;14;01
Speaker 2
Like it's just like this very, I mean, Lily, you said it yesterday. It's like the dooms tears.

00;44;14;04 - 00;44;17;07
Speaker 3
Yeah, it's just kind of like, happening. It's very.

00;44;17;09 - 00;44;17;13
Speaker 2
It's.

00;44;17;14 - 00;44;27;29
Speaker 3
A and again, the same thing is happening to me and I kind of discuss, like, I discuss my theories as to why last week, but, Yeah, I was just, like, sobbing, like not sobbing, but, like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's crazy.

00;44;27;29 - 00;44;39;27
Speaker 1
It's it's definitely pulling the heart strings. As someone who's not having children, it's definitely like, you can't get it. I understand James is.

00;44;39;27 - 00;44;40;24
Speaker 2
Like, noted.

00;44;40;29 - 00;44;43;09
Speaker 1
Please move on.

00;44;43;11 - 00;44;50;05
Speaker 3
Anyway. So yes. So this like. Yes. Mysterious stranger in a helmet on a on a unicycle with an umbrella shows up outside.

00;44;50;05 - 00;44;51;05
Speaker 2
I wonder who that could be.

00;44;51;10 - 00;45;13;03
Speaker 3
Who could that possibly be? And, they, like, scan the scene and, they're like, okay. And they just, like, walk past the hologram and go inside the base, and then you get this, like, intruder alert alarm and sound like, oh, what the fuck? And he's looking around and he, like, grabs like a gun and he's like, no.

00;45;13;03 - 00;45;19;04
Speaker 3
And he puts the gun back, and then he's like, grabbing for stuff. And he eventually settles on the fucking frying pan, which makes no.

00;45;19;04 - 00;45;21;15
Speaker 2
Sense. Like, seriously.

00;45;21;17 - 00;45;25;23
Speaker 1
Just like having a laugh here, you know? Yeah. It's like, we'll talk.

00;45;25;23 - 00;45;38;29
Speaker 2
About Sam's weird, reactions to things. Yeah. Later. Because this man is in in retrospect, yeah. In retrospect, I'm like, you're way too fucking calm for somebody who would be this?

00;45;38;29 - 00;45;45;15
Speaker 1
It's been popping too many CBD gummies. Yeah, to slow it down. Yeah. Actually, no, he needs to speed it up.

00;45;45;20 - 00;45;47;22
Speaker 3
Yeah, he needs to speed it up. He needs some, like, caffeine pills.

00;45;47;22 - 00;45;48;26
Speaker 1
Or something, like. Yeah.

00;45;48;28 - 00;45;50;23
Speaker 3
Like he needs the monster back. It's what he needs.

00;45;50;23 - 00;45;51;06
Speaker 1
That's right.

00;45;51;07 - 00;45;51;15
Speaker 2
That's.

00;45;51;17 - 00;45;53;10
Speaker 3
Give me some energy. Give him happiness.

00;45;53;15 - 00;46;01;07
Speaker 2
Yeah. So no longer is there monster. There is now chiral tea, which looks like looks like green tea cans.

00;46;01;07 - 00;46;03;23
Speaker 1
But yeah.

00;46;03;26 - 00;46;05;11
Speaker 2
Yeah, I was looking it up online.

00;46;05;11 - 00;46;13;08
Speaker 3
I miss, I miss Monster Sun, which is what Hideo Kojima called the monster. He called it Monster Sun. I don't know if you remember that or not.

00;46;13;12 - 00;46;16;23
Speaker 2
No, that's fucking hilarious. Mr. monster.

00;46;16;25 - 00;46;18;10
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;46;18;13 - 00;46;45;17
Speaker 2
Apparently chiral compounds are distributed within TES. It's like a real thing if you type in, like, chiral litty or chiral T, it pulls up all these fucking articles on, like, chirality and T aroma compounds written by So-and-so Kobayashi from 1994. It's like it's like a real thing. So now I'm wondering if there are weird ties to that.

00;46;45;24 - 00;46;46;05
Speaker 1
Yeah, I.

00;46;46;05 - 00;47;12;01
Speaker 3
Have like a weird moment today before we recorded because Chelsea's Chelsea's watching, Breaking Bad. Again, just randomly. And I'll like, catch episodes with her and, like, catch what I can when I'm not, like, doing other things. And there is a moment in season four, and Walt and Jesse are talking to Gus about something, and Walt is like pleading his case, and he mentions, like, the chirality of fucking math or whatever the fuck.

00;47;12;01 - 00;47;14;29
Speaker 3
I'm just, like, so much happening. Yeah. So it's all.

00;47;14;29 - 00;47;16;09
Speaker 1
Connected.

00;47;16;12 - 00;47;31;04
Speaker 2
Can we talk about, fragile, really weird outfit with the credibly low crouch, crouch cry? That makes it look like her legs are two feet tall. Yeah. And then her weird fucking hand scarf.

00;47;31;05 - 00;47;34;00
Speaker 1
Yeah. Like little scarf is sick.

00;47;34;02 - 00;47;36;04
Speaker 3
It's cool, but they don't explain it at all.

00;47;36;04 - 00;47;38;24
Speaker 1
Well, they do in the corpus.

00;47;38;27 - 00;47;41;05
Speaker 3
Oh, I didn't press the corpus for that.

00;47;41;05 - 00;47;52;23
Speaker 1
In the corpus, it the hands belong to an entity for like what time did with fragile car when she was in there? At the end of the first game.

00;47;52;25 - 00;47;56;04
Speaker 3
Oh, after after like the shit with Higgs. Oh my God. Okay.

00;47;56;04 - 00;48;02;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. So that's gotta go. They really. They don't talk about it as far as I've had.

00;48;02;08 - 00;48;12;04
Speaker 3
Oh, not. Yeah, just. And all it's there for is to give thumbs up so she doesn't have to. God. That's crazy.

00;48;12;04 - 00;48;17;10
Speaker 2
I want to get a bond with an entity from another realm just to, like, hand me your.

00;48;17;10 - 00;48;19;11
Speaker 3
Fucking.

00;48;19;13 - 00;48;23;19
Speaker 1
Cigarets. So walk while she's talking.

00;48;23;21 - 00;48;32;00
Speaker 2
While she's introducing herself to Sam again. It's the first time they've seen each other since the first game. So there's a little bit of like, hey, you player, here's what's been.

00;48;32;03 - 00;48;36;07
Speaker 1
This was the exposition time. Yeah, yeah, let's get everybody caught up.

00;48;36;07 - 00;48;56;03
Speaker 2
But I also noticed they gave us a little bit of a preview of Doll Man and his fucking disgusting 12 frames a second. Because when it cuts to this, like, holographic map of the United States cities of America, you see all these, like, metal gear rays delivering shit, and they're all moving at, like, enter the Spider-Verse frame rate.

00;48;56;08 - 00;48;57;15
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;48;57;17 - 00;48;59;14
Speaker 2
And immediately I was like, oh.

00;48;59;14 - 00;49;01;27
Speaker 1
No, like a jumpsuit. Yeah.

00;49;02;00 - 00;49;03;11
Speaker 2
He's coming.

00;49;03;13 - 00;49;05;05
Speaker 1
He's coming.

00;49;05;08 - 00;49;13;03
Speaker 2
But yeah. And also Lacy do looks like, she got really angry and cut her own hair while crying.

00;49;13;05 - 00;49;17;11
Speaker 1
Yeah, her hair was real. A real nice way of describing the new look.

00;49;17;14 - 00;49;23;22
Speaker 2
So she essentially lays the the the the the lay of the land telling you what's going on. Yeah. Telling you.

00;49;23;24 - 00;49;38;13
Speaker 3
Where she. Yeah. Diehard men stop step down from being president of the UK and like, the UK has like, like bridges step back from, like working with the government and now a new company has taken over.

00;49;38;13 - 00;50;03;14
Speaker 1
Like, yeah, they, it's, But Bridget stepped back because now that the North American continents connected, they don't need borders there anymore. And they've got this, like, automated delivery service, which has an algorithm that is important to like the mechanics of the game that I cannot remember for the life of me, I think it begins with,

00;50;03;17 - 00;50;07;16
Speaker 3
Yeah. I can't remember.

00;50;07;18 - 00;50;12;15
Speaker 2
Yeah. Sorry, I'm totally spacing right now. I don't know what just happened to my brain.

00;50;12;17 - 00;50;15;07
Speaker 1
Yeah. But I also don't, yeah.

00;50;15;09 - 00;50;25;07
Speaker 2
I don't remember them showing so many scenes from the first game while she was talking. I don't know how I, like, blanked this out. So maybe you were totally on to something. James.

00;50;25;07 - 00;50;39;21
Speaker 1
Yeah. First impressions. I was like, where I was just, like, look, like all of this exposition, it's a financial decision, not a creative decision. They've got to get the new players that didn't play the first game onboarded quickly, because there's so much like, yeah, I mean convoluted, right.

00;50;39;24 - 00;50;57;07
Speaker 2
But oh, you know what? I think it's a good old gray. I know why I didn't see it. So this is the very first time they give you a whole bunch of different options that you can tell the dialog for the conversation. And I just like fucking role playing went for it. I was like, Sam would already know this.

00;50;57;07 - 00;51;00;05
Speaker 2
I'm not going to ask that. I'm going to say this.

00;51;00;08 - 00;51;00;14
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;51;00;14 - 00;51;02;23
Speaker 2
Which leads me.

00;51;02;25 - 00;51;07;06
Speaker 3
Yeah, this thing. Oh my God. I watched a video of it today.

00;51;07;07 - 00;51;21;26
Speaker 2
So it's it's it's funny. So literally so it gives you this thing, right? It's like are there BT's out there. What's the state of the environment. They're blah blah blah. But then it's also why me and I'll get you it. And so I just immediately jump to why me and.

00;51;21;28 - 00;51;27;13
Speaker 3
Well let's well let's like she is asking him to go to Mexico right? Right. Connect Mexico to the grid.

00;51;27;14 - 00;51;30;20
Speaker 2
Yeah. As like a favor to her and which him.

00;51;30;21 - 00;51;31;15
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;51;31;17 - 00;51;51;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, I will say I think it's right before they give you these choices. Like Sam accent. Apprehensive, and initiated, like b the commentary on like the expansion is nature of the UK trying to like backdoor its way into other camps and countries via this network that it's created. I just think it's.

00;51;51;21 - 00;51;52;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. And fragile.

00;51;52;21 - 00;51;53;18
Speaker 1
Slightly.

00;51;53;20 - 00;52;03;03
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like the UK is not trying to it's not trying to take over. They just want to make sure. They just want to make sure everybody's connected. It's like, shut up. What do you.

00;52;03;05 - 00;52;04;18
Speaker 1
Mean yeah yeah.

00;52;04;18 - 00;52;09;23
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah I see these cutscenes. It's crazy. They like, are showing you the whole fucking first.

00;52;09;23 - 00;52;12;06
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

00;52;12;09 - 00;52;23;06
Speaker 3
But basically but basically the idea is, hey, you need to go and help dead man in his lab in Mexico. He's.

00;52;23;06 - 00;52;25;01
Speaker 2
Been doing research after the end of the first.

00;52;25;01 - 00;52;47;08
Speaker 3
Game. Yeah, and you need to do that by connecting Mexico. And if you do this, then bridges will leave you and you alone. And then he's just like, okay, me, but what about Lou? And she's like, well, lose an asset. A bridge, maybe. And that's going to have to be you're going to have to negotiate. You negotiate that with them.

00;52;47;08 - 00;52;53;04
Speaker 3
And it's just like, shit, man, that's cold blooded. Yeah. And then you're going to leave your child with this person. Like what?

00;52;53;07 - 00;52;55;05
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. It's.

00;52;55;07 - 00;53;12;07
Speaker 2
And so essentially it's like it gets to the point where she's like, so are you going to do it or not? Kind of a deal. And the options right are like, no. So effectively like I think it's got a little bit of a different like, yeah, writing to it. It's like whatever. It's like, nah, I'm good.

00;53;12;07 - 00;53;31;00
Speaker 2
No, why why would I? Whatever. Yeah. And then the other option is like, okay, like, let's get started though. Yeah. And in my head I was like, again, typical, like escape from LA or Metal Gear Solid two or whatever. It's like, no, I've done like fuck this. And in my.

00;53;31;00 - 00;53;31;14
Speaker 3
Head attire.

00;53;31;16 - 00;53;40;27
Speaker 2
I am if I'm Kurt Russell, if I'm solid snake like, no, I'm not do this. Yeah I'm done Roy leave me alone.

00;53;40;29 - 00;53;41;13
Speaker 1


00;53;41;27 - 00;53;46;08
Speaker 2
And so straight up is like yeah. And you just saw Sam hanging out with his fucking dog.

00;53;46;11 - 00;53;47;09
Speaker 1
He's having a great time.

00;53;47;12 - 00;53;52;14
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I'm like nah I'm good. And then a funny thing happens.

00;53;52;16 - 00;53;57;17
Speaker 3
Stuff. And it's it's like you said, you laughed out loud. I was like, oh, I get it. That's very good. Yeah.

00;53;57;20 - 00;53;58;24
Speaker 2


00;53;58;27 - 00;53;59;20
Speaker 1
So.

00;53;59;22 - 00;54;09;06
Speaker 2
So essentially, if you say no, it cuts back. And I felt as if the cutscene had restarted because suddenly you're like, back on the record. You're back on it zooms.

00;54;09;06 - 00;54;14;29
Speaker 3
It zooms back in on the on the photo of him, like, feed it.

00;54;15;00 - 00;54;15;23
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's the.

00;54;15;23 - 00;54;19;26
Speaker 3
Whole oh no, no, you're right. I'll let you. Because you were you were right. I'll let you do it because.

00;54;19;27 - 00;54;39;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. So essentially you play throughout the entire sort of, rehash of the scene again with Sam cooking and yada, yada, yada. But then, when it goes to push into a photo on the wall, it is a photo of the decision moment again. And of course, here I am, and I'm like, I made a goddamn choice.

00;54;39;20 - 00;54;56;09
Speaker 2
And so I said no again. And then essentially it does the same thing again where it replays the beginning of the cutscene, but then the photo that it goes to push in on is of Sam standing up on the mountain ridge at the very, very beginning. And then Norman Reedus just goes.

00;54;56;11 - 00;54;57;19
Speaker 1
No, no, no, no no no, no.

00;54;57;20 - 00;55;01;17
Speaker 3
No. It whips over to the decision for you to get.

00;55;01;19 - 00;55;04;26
Speaker 1
And then did you not? That's what my brain was doing at the same moment.

00;55;04;29 - 00;55;06;14
Speaker 3
Yeah. I was like oh fuck.

00;55;06;14 - 00;55;09;04
Speaker 1
Oh fuck no, don't make me walk.

00;55;09;07 - 00;55;14;15
Speaker 3
And then and then and then your only choice at that point is to accept.

00;55;14;18 - 00;55;18;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's very funny. Yeah. Like, I like the trolling.

00;55;18;19 - 00;55;35;04
Speaker 2
I was waiting to see, like, if anything, like, in my head when I picked. No, I assumed what was going to happen was that the dialog was going to be slightly different, but it would still lead to the same thing. I didn't expect there to be like a straight up separate cutscene.

00;55;35;05 - 00;55;39;01
Speaker 1
Like, it was a nice touch.

00;55;39;03 - 00;55;49;04
Speaker 2
But yeah. Then after not having seen this woman for a year, and her saying some like, weird Lee propaganda like, oh shit, Sam's referring.

00;55;49;05 - 00;55;51;02
Speaker 3
To his daughter as an asset.

00;55;51;03 - 00;55;51;18
Speaker 1
Like, yeah.

00;55;51;23 - 00;55;54;12
Speaker 2
Yeah, Sam's just like, yeah, take my kid.

00;55;54;13 - 00;56;11;26
Speaker 1
Here you go. Very good babysitter. Which I also felt like they immediately like. And, I don't know, I just can't like. I found it during the opening. I kept trying to, like, read into, like, Kojima's mindset because they immediately fragile pops open like this app that's like, she's like, I've never taken care of a kid. I've got this app.

00;56;11;26 - 00;56;12;19
Speaker 1
I'm good to go.

00;56;12;19 - 00;56;34;21
Speaker 3
I was going to say because. Because then because like, because this happens again. Because like shove her and lieu visit Sam in his his rooms as you go through Mexico like a hologram or whatever, just like, hey, we're doing okay, blah, blah, blah. And she, another she mentions another time I was like, yeah, this app is like milk temperatures and best ways it is.

00;56;34;21 - 00;56;38;25
Speaker 3
It's fragile using ChatGPT to take care of this fucking baby.

00;56;38;27 - 00;56;50;15
Speaker 2
Also, I hate to say it, but like isn't there are children of men kind of situation happening here where nobody can fucking have kids. Like there's like no child that has lived beyond a certain I.

00;56;50;16 - 00;56;52;19
Speaker 3
Think, so I can't remember if it's like.

00;56;52;19 - 00;56;54;15
Speaker 2
Or is it strictly the Bridge Babies?

00;56;54;15 - 00;56;58;22
Speaker 3
It's strictly the bridge babies. I don't really know because. Yeah, because there wasn't really there weren't any like, well, there's.

00;56;58;28 - 00;57;04;11
Speaker 2
A slight spoiler for like 30 minutes from now, but there's a pregnant woman who can't give birth.

00;57;04;11 - 00;57;04;28
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

00;57;05;02 - 00;57;07;18
Speaker 2
In this very sliver of the game.

00;57;07;21 - 00;57;08;06
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;57;08;06 - 00;57;13;15
Speaker 2
So, like, yeah, if nobody can have a kid, who the fuck is updating an app on how to take care of kids?

00;57;13;17 - 00;57;16;14
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like that can't be. That can't be lucrative.

00;57;16;16 - 00;57;17;27
Speaker 2
Lou.

00;57;18;00 - 00;57;20;19
Speaker 3
Lucrative.

00;57;20;21 - 00;57;22;16
Speaker 1
You, Louise. Yeah.

00;57;22;16 - 00;57;27;19
Speaker 3
But yeah. So Sam gets geared up and he says by the Lou. And it's real tender and melon.

00;57;27;20 - 00;57;30;07
Speaker 2
The whole fucking time. I'm like, something's going to happen to this child.

00;57;30;07 - 00;57;30;18
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;57;30;23 - 00;57;37;05
Speaker 2
I was like, so fucking help me God. I will fly to Japan and I will choke you into the ground today.

00;57;37;08 - 00;57;55;08
Speaker 3
I, I will talk about that at the end of chapter one, because like the poker face that I was trying to pull last time was like maybe my strongest performance yet. Yeah, quite frankly. So we'll get to that later on. But.

00;57;55;11 - 00;57;56;10
Speaker 2
Seen nothing.

00;57;56;10 - 00;58;10;16
Speaker 3
You ain't seen nothing yet. But again, it's like, it's just like fucking Death Stranding where. So you can't just take a straight line to the dead man's lab. You got to go here and connect this and then go here and connect the dots down here and blah, blah, blah. And you got to go to this first place.

00;58;10;16 - 00;58;18;20
Speaker 3
You have to deliver, to this place called C1, a chiral network gateway to get Mexico on the grid.

00;58;18;20 - 00;58;20;16
Speaker 1
Basically get them on the grid.

00;58;20;18 - 00;58;40;00
Speaker 2
Do we, do we want to? I think one thing that might be helpful, because if we just talk about point A to point B to point C, I think it might feel kind of, vacuous if I just all feel like kind of I can't place what the fuck you guys are talking about. So this is going to sound weird if I'm not playing along.

00;58;40;02 - 00;58;58;23
Speaker 2
So I almost wonder, do we just describe, like, the massive landmarks that are on the map? Yeah, initially. And then we can kind of say, okay, then you go here, then you go here, then you go here. So the first big landmark I think, is this, like massive river next to a dead town. Yeah. With like, the massive bridge.

00;58;58;23 - 00;59;02;24
Speaker 2
But there is like an encampment of dudes.

00;59;02;28 - 00;59;06;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. It's like a this little like there, like an underpass. And that's where I engage. Yeah.

00;59;06;28 - 00;59;09;19
Speaker 2
Lily, tell us about that, because it sounds like James and I both like.

00;59;09;21 - 00;59;10;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, we we've.

00;59;10;09 - 00;59;11;19
Speaker 2
Started.

00;59;11;21 - 00;59;28;18
Speaker 3
To, Yeah. So I so when you get there, like I said, it's this big camp and this underpass is destroyed. Bridge. And you have to get past the camp and find a way to get to the other side of the bridge and climb up to proceed. And when you get to the edge of the camp, they make you focus on it.

00;59;28;18 - 00;59;37;25
Speaker 3
So they kind of explain, like, here's how you mark enemies and blah, blah, blah. And it was it was a tutorial. You don't have to do it. I thought you had to do it. So I did it. Yeah, I did

00;59;37;27 - 00;59;38;10
Speaker 2
Tutorial.

00;59;38;10 - 00;59;54;17
Speaker 3
Messages or. Yeah. So that's where you go down. You learn that like you can hide in tall grass and they won't see you, but if you're fucking stack, it's too tall. They'll see your stack and be like, oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So if you're, if you're, if you're, if your gear and the stuff you're carrying goes to it's pretty fair.

00;59;54;23 - 01;00;00;24
Speaker 3
It's pretty forgiving. But if you have like a fucking smoke stack of boxes, you like, who's this guy?

01;00;00;27 - 01;00;06;06
Speaker 2
Hold on. Did you get those tutorial messages later on the mountain side or just here?

01;00;06;08 - 01;00;07;22
Speaker 3
No. Just here.

01;00;07;24 - 01;00;09;03
Speaker 2
I got all that.

01;00;09;06 - 01;00;11;05
Speaker 3
Yeah. Because. Yeah, probably because you didn't.

01;00;11;05 - 01;00;13;08
Speaker 1
As well, like. Yeah. If you didn't, if you didn't.

01;00;13;08 - 01;00;13;25
Speaker 3
Engage.

01;00;13;29 - 01;00;15;06
Speaker 1
Counters when I got it.

01;00;15;08 - 01;00;19;20
Speaker 3
Yeah. So it probably just tells you the first time you engage with combat and stuff. As.

01;00;19;20 - 01;00;26;08
Speaker 2
Soon as I saw a big red skull on the map, I was like, I will fucking ladder my way across the river rather than taking.

01;00;26;08 - 01;00;27;28
Speaker 1
The long way around there.

01;00;28;00 - 01;00;45;19
Speaker 3
Like, yeah, there were six. There were six guys down there. I stealth killed two of them. And then I was like, kind of like I was fucking around with the grass. And then they saw me and everything went crazy. And so that was when I, like, got the gun and, like, shooting. And that's when I was like, oh, the shooting feels good.

01;00;45;19 - 01;00;51;14
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like, it feels like a, like it feels really, really like solid. Not no pun intended.

01;00;51;14 - 01;00;54;04
Speaker 2
11 void outs later, Lily walked over.

01;00;54;04 - 01;00;54;25
Speaker 1
That hurt.

01;00;54;28 - 01;00;56;05
Speaker 3
No, I did not die.

01;00;56;05 - 01;00;59;01
Speaker 2
Thanks. No. Not you. I'm saying all the other people that you just.

01;00;59;02 - 01;01;14;07
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I didn't like the. The weapons are non-lethal. So you're not killing people. So. Yeah. So but but they're but they're dropping like you are and I'm shooting. I'm clocking these motherfuckers in the head like I'm doming these people with rubber.

01;01;14;07 - 01;01;19;27
Speaker 1
Bullets satisfying when you hit them, like, in the head. And it does like this is him. Slow down.

01;01;20;00 - 01;01;30;10
Speaker 3
Which is they make like a they make like a. Yeah. Let me like, oh the sound of a collapsed because obviously I had shot with a fucking rubber bullets going to do some damage. Yeah.

01;01;30;12 - 01;01;32;23
Speaker 2
To, like, just literally. Yeah.

01;01;32;23 - 01;01;36;20
Speaker 1
Yeah. To to.

01;01;36;22 - 01;01;45;20
Speaker 3
But yeah. So it was pretty cool. There were six of them out down, like I said, I, like I said, I took out the four with the gun and I went on my merry way and I was like, yeah, I can get down with this.

01;01;45;23 - 01;02;02;14
Speaker 1
Yeah. I find that in those situations, I do everything I can in my power to sneak by like I. Yeah, not want to be in the conversation. Like, yeah, it I always get seen. Like I always like having to shoot my way out.

01;02;02;16 - 01;02;35;15
Speaker 3
To not to to like, flash forward a little bit. Like I managed to get through the, the mountain one without raising like the like, like one guy spotted me, but I punched him before the alarms got right. So I managed to get through that all stealthy the way. Like, I'll be completely honest here, the way that like combat and stealth and the action has been kind of revamped for this one to refresh for this one, I feel like making those decisions about whether I should sneak around or go down in to see what they have and like what I can salvage from them, is going to be more difficult, like making that choice.

01;02;35;22 - 01;02;50;20
Speaker 3
Because like, I don't mind engaging with the combat and what's the mechanics of dealing with them now? So it's like the risk reward, kind of like I think is like a Death Stranding. I was like, I don't give a fuck what they have down there. I'm out. Whereas here it's just like, never.

01;02;50;20 - 01;02;52;18
Speaker 2
Yeah, I never went into camps on purpose.

01;02;52;19 - 01;02;55;17
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like if I didn't have it, like if I wasn't doing that.

01;02;55;20 - 01;02;56;24
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01;02;56;25 - 01;03;05;00
Speaker 3
Hey, whereas here it's just like, yeah, if I run into something, I'm just like, maybe I'll check out what they have and see if, like, maybe it's worth it. Like, yeah.

01;03;05;00 - 01;03;08;03
Speaker 1
So I'm accessible in this. Yeah.

01;03;08;06 - 01;03;26;26
Speaker 2
So that's the first sort of big, geographical, curiosity. So there's that. Across the river from the underpass is, a big, fucked up Mexican city. All the weird, like, toll booths and stuff kind of make me think it's a border town.

01;03;26;28 - 01;03;30;04
Speaker 3
Yeah, right. But, yeah, it's absolutely a border town. Yeah.

01;03;30;07 - 01;03;51;12
Speaker 2
So it seems like it's a border town. There's a lot of heavy traffic, and, like, the bridge is falling apart, so, like, you can. There are some straightaways and stuff. It was actually kind of interesting because the way that I snuck across, I was paranoid that there was going to be shit around. And then, funny enough, it prepared me for something that happens later, because I was like, oh, I'll just go the way that I went last time.

01;03;51;15 - 01;04;09;21
Speaker 2
And it also helped me avoid a lot of shit. But yeah. So anyway, so you've got this kind of major geographical structure, then there's the place where you're going to deliver two, which if you've played Death Stranding, one just looks like any other base, unfortunately. Like they all just look the same, which is kind of which.

01;04;09;23 - 01;04;30;07
Speaker 3
The one thing that I think that that fragile explains, that's just like, oh, this apparently happened. Cool. Convenient is that after a certain point, Emily's group splintered. Half of them went west still, and the other half went down into Mexico. And they just never they just like, didn't talk about that in the first one, as far as I'm aware.

01;04;30;09 - 01;04;33;20
Speaker 3
So there's this like there's this like, yeah, I don't know. There's just like.

01;04;33;21 - 01;04;34;20
Speaker 2
Remember her saying that.

01;04;34;20 - 01;04;45;29
Speaker 3
That's good. Yeah. There's this like explanation of convenience that's just like, hey Emily. Also, Emily's team also went down south, and that's why there's buildings and that's why you can do the Cupid down there. Yeah. Isn't that great? So it's very like.

01;04;46;05 - 01;04;51;22
Speaker 2
The new keep. It's cool, by the way. Yeah. It looks like some fucking creepy coffins instead of some USB drives.

01;04;51;22 - 01;05;00;24
Speaker 1
Yeah. The, when you're crossing that little border town bridge, that's also the first time that you get, like one of the other big weather effects, right?

01;05;00;29 - 01;05;19;02
Speaker 2
Yeah. The big sandstorm. Yeah, yeah, we kind of talk a little bit about it last episode, but, yeah, I enjoyed the sandstorm. I off mike, we were talking about it and I literally tried to wait it out, like, I just, like, huddled in a corner and just waited. I don't think it ends unless you proceed.

01;05;19;04 - 01;05;29;02
Speaker 1
I don't think so. I think it also will. It stops encroaching at a certain. Yeah point. It will just kind of recycle. Its like lush animation.

01;05;29;05 - 01;05;30;29
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, and I will.

01;05;30;29 - 01;05;32;18
Speaker 1
I think that one static.

01;05;32;21 - 01;05;45;15
Speaker 2
I will just very quickly summarize what we talked about last time. But like Sam does get weather specific. So yeah. What's it called on action figures like battle damage.

01;05;45;15 - 01;05;46;01
Speaker 3
Whether.

01;05;46;01 - 01;05;47;04
Speaker 1
It's battle,

01;05;47;07 - 01;05;50;21
Speaker 3
Battle scars. Battle damage. Yeah. Battle damage. Sam.

01;05;50;21 - 01;06;08;18
Speaker 2
He, like, actively sunburns. He gets sand all over him. If you wear the sunglasses, I notice that you can still like underneath. See that he doesn't have sand, which I thought was interesting. Yeah, it actually felt appropriate to wear sunglasses. I actually never wore any cosmetics on the first game because I thought they all looked silly. Yeah.

01;06;08;21 - 01;06;08;28
Speaker 2
Did you.

01;06;08;28 - 01;06;10;21
Speaker 3
Wear the normal sunglasses? It. This fucking.

01;06;10;24 - 01;06;15;20
Speaker 2
I wore the regular ones that wear the fucking gold dust.

01;06;15;22 - 01;06;19;07
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;06;19;09 - 01;06;37;19
Speaker 2
But but yeah. So that's, that's the sort of big primary structure. And then the next one that we're going to kind of deal with is between this base and our next kind of point, there's a little bit of like a farm and like a flat land kind of thing, like an emptied out lake, which I think is kind of cool.

01;06;37;21 - 01;06;44;20
Speaker 2
And then there's a mountain. I feel like the mountain section. I don't know about you guys, but the mountain section kind of reminded me of the, wind farm.

01;06;44;20 - 01;06;45;21
Speaker 1
The wind farm, for sure.

01;06;45;21 - 01;06;55;29
Speaker 3
Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. And this is what I mean, too, is just like, they're very much like, recapping the hits and kind of getting you into all the different biomes and trying to acclimate you to what you're going to be experiencing.

01;06;56;01 - 01;07;08;03
Speaker 1
It did feel like I mean, I think one of you said this, I think, but it did feel like a really good vertical slice of like, this is like everything you did in the first game. Just mini. Yeah. You what it feels like. Yeah.

01;07;08;05 - 01;07;27;00
Speaker 2
And it's cool. I do like the environment. Yeah. It's, the environment makes a difference. And I think the vibe at the time, I was like, man, maybe Death Stranding two is going to be, very different tone. By the time we get to the end of this episode, let's just say there is a big fucking moment.

01;07;27;00 - 01;07;33;23
Speaker 2
Yeah. I don't like it. I mean, I like it, but I don't like it if, you know. Yeah.

01;07;33;25 - 01;07;35;01
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;07;35;03 - 01;07;53;20
Speaker 2
But. Yeah. So. And then outside of the mountain, you're kind of back in the sort of like, flat land region, where the sort of like there is still water, but it kind of felt like being on, like, have you guys ever been on like a sand bar? Like, you know, you get a beach and you see those, like, islands that kind of exist in the distance?

01;07;53;22 - 01;08;25;03
Speaker 2
It's kind of like that. Like, so if you upon return, if you choose to not go the way that you went through the mountains. Yeah. There's just this, like, kind of cool, like silty delta, kind of like land, but not land water but not water stuff. And and yeah, so that's, that's there. And then there's sort of like a ruins area.

01;08;25;06 - 01;08;34;07
Speaker 2
And that's kind of the 4 or 5 like major zones, in these first two chapters. Yeah. Lot of time. Fall rain. Didn't expect.

01;08;34;07 - 01;08;37;05
Speaker 1
Yeah. In Mexico. Yeah, yeah.

01;08;37;07 - 01;08;40;10
Speaker 2
Your boy was paranoid and had a whole bunch of repair sprays.

01;08;40;10 - 01;08;58;24
Speaker 1
I was gonna say it's time for. Feels less of a threat so far. Like, I feel like with, container. I've been using container repair, sweat spray, like, never used it before, but also, I don't remember if this was true in the first game, but, the time ball shelters also, repair. Yeah. I didn't know that.

01;08;58;26 - 01;09;00;27
Speaker 3
They did that in the first one. Two impression.

01;09;00;29 - 01;09;04;18
Speaker 2
So my dumb ass was like spraying the spray once I got under the cover.

01;09;04;21 - 01;09;06;26
Speaker 3
So they just constantly pump, repair spray.

01;09;06;26 - 01;09;11;03
Speaker 1
Out for damn well whoops.

01;09;11;06 - 01;09;12;26
Speaker 3
You know, now.

01;09;12;28 - 01;09;14;24
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah.

01;09;14;26 - 01;09;27;23
Speaker 2
Yeah. Depending on when you get to this, it's actually interesting. I can't think of a game where the two day head start actually kind of fucks people a little bit, because there's a chance that you're playing this and there's just going to be a bunch of infrastructure.

01;09;27;26 - 01;09;28;25
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;09;28;27 - 01;09;29;26
Speaker 3
True. Oh that's true.

01;09;30;01 - 01;09;42;24
Speaker 2
Kind of lame. Yeah. So I don't know. I'll be curious to see if the game has like a gatekeeping, to it where it's sort of like, hey, you're not going to be able to see other people shit until you beat this section because.

01;09;42;24 - 01;09;55;00
Speaker 3
Yeah, well, because later on, like later on, there's like, hey, build this time, fallout shelter, build this watchtower. And it's like, you would think that if you came in after somebody that did that, that it would be there already. But they like, they.

01;09;55;00 - 01;09;56;01
Speaker 1
Instance it.

01;09;56;04 - 01;09;57;22
Speaker 3
I think in this area. Yeah.

01;09;57;25 - 01;10;17;01
Speaker 1
I, I hit that with the I think it's one of the side forks that you can do before the end. Episode two, The artist. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Requests from them to build, time for shelter. And there was already one there, and I had to, like, go into the menu of that one and, like, dismantle it for my game so I could complete that one.

01;10;17;03 - 01;10;20;28
Speaker 2
I do imagine that you dismantling it dismantled it like three other.

01;10;21;01 - 01;10;23;24
Speaker 1
Yeah, right. Just disappeared.

01;10;23;26 - 01;10;39;29
Speaker 3
There. The artist. I wanna ask you a question of the art. The artist is like, like a young woman, right? With, like, dark hair. James, I saw I didn't do that one. I, I was just like, I don't know where this is. I'm like, so tired. I'm focused on getting home. Yeah.

01;10;40;02 - 01;10;55;17
Speaker 2
Yeah. The narrative timing of both of the side things, weird. Just felt weird. Was weird because I was like, well, wait a minute, this feels more pressing, and then you don't really get a chance to. I mean, at least thus far, I have not gotten a chance to, like, go back.

01;10;55;19 - 01;10;57;09
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;10;57;11 - 01;11;02;11
Speaker 3
The artist is the first celebrity guest.

01;11;02;17 - 01;11;03;23
Speaker 2
Oh.

01;11;03;26 - 01;11;20;18
Speaker 3
And I'm like. I'm like one of the only people probably listening to this podcast that's going to care about this or know who it is, but her name is Lauren. Sigh. She was a cast member on, terrace House Aloha State. Terrace House being this, like, Japanese, series.

01;11;20;18 - 01;11;21;19
Speaker 1
Where, like, yeah.

01;11;21;22 - 01;11;42;08
Speaker 3
A bunch of boys and girls live in a house together and they, like, have their reasons for being in the house and trying to find love or whatever they're doing. And they did it. Lorenz. I, but they did a season in Hawaii, and Lauren was it was it was, was a cast member on there. And then she's gone on to do like she's worked for Marvel and she's a really, really talented artist.

01;11;42;08 - 01;11;57;12
Speaker 3
Like, she's the artist. Like, she's a very talented artist. And she's worked she's gotten very high profile since then. So I was just like, it's foreign because I love when I see Lauren and things, because I love Lauren. She's like, she's like kind of bitchy, but like, I love it.

01;11;57;14 - 01;12;03;04
Speaker 1
Yeah. She directed the music video for Cool About It by Boygenius. Oh, wow.

01;12;03;08 - 01;12;12;28
Speaker 3
Yeah, she's very talented. But I was like, I was like, well, oh, for me, this is the first celebrity in my heart. But I like, honestly, she really is a celebrity like she. Yeah, she does a lot of like cool stuff.

01;12;13;00 - 01;12;21;12
Speaker 2
So she kicks, she kicks off the very first, women that Kojima like vanity scanned to put into his video. Okay.

01;12;21;12 - 01;12;23;10
Speaker 1
Yes, yes.

01;12;23;12 - 01;12;43;06
Speaker 2
Yes. She seems really cool. I'm just kind of looking through, like, Google and Instagram. Nice. That's awesome. Did not know that. Also, it seems like there are just like little encampments and stuff like this. Long play. I literally am watching this dude go into a bandit camp I did not know existed and steal a truck.

01;12;43;08 - 01;12;45;27
Speaker 2
Oh, just driving a fucking pickup truck.

01;12;45;27 - 01;12;47;13
Speaker 1
Through the ocean.

01;12;47;15 - 01;12;50;05
Speaker 3
All right, get him. Pick gamma, pick him up. Truck. Let's go.

01;12;50;07 - 01;13;09;26
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think I don't know if you can or. Oh, no. They were coming after him. So somebody disabled the truck and he got ejected from it. I thought that was, like to keep him from from, breaking the game, but no, it's just because somebody shot at him, so that's crazy. But, yeah. So your your experiences may vary.

01;13;09;29 - 01;13;17;14
Speaker 2
But, just to sort of get a little further in before this episode goes for seven hours long.

01;13;17;14 - 01;13;20;04
Speaker 3
Yeah. The cycles like that though.

01;13;20;06 - 01;13;40;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. We deliver the package for the gateway. So you go through the underpass, you go through the sandstorm, and then you deliver the package to a very nice man. It starts out all garbled and you can't see what he looks like. And then he's like, hi, Sam. Once it gets connected, you get access to your first private room where you get my favorite nightmare.

01;13;40;25 - 01;13;41;26
Speaker 1
Oh, God. Because that's like.

01;13;42;00 - 01;13;42;23
Speaker 2
Trying a.

01;13;42;25 - 01;13;47;29
Speaker 1
Big glass of this. And I was like, Alessio is having a great time right now. It's literally.

01;13;48;01 - 01;13;59;12
Speaker 3
Alessio. 50 minutes. You famous. Mommy, please step on me. Kind of saw Alessio Summerfield. Because this it was so, so it started.

01;13;59;14 - 01;14;04;18
Speaker 2
When I first saw it, I was like, oh man, that's a big B. Yeah, that's a big.

01;14;04;18 - 01;14;16;12
Speaker 3
B, that's a big one, man. So the way but the way that it starts though is like, doesn't it like panel on the beach and you see all like the fucking dead fetuses of. Yeah.

01;14;16;12 - 01;14;19;03
Speaker 2
It's kind of like the beginning of death and the beginning of the first.

01;14;19;06 - 01;14;28;02
Speaker 3
But yeah. Yeah. And it's just like it's just very disturbing. And then it goes up and you see a very large family shrouded in shadow. And I'm just like something.

01;14;28;09 - 01;14;30;24
Speaker 2
Yeah. Like her hands pressed against her chest.

01;14;30;25 - 01;14;37;14
Speaker 3
Yeah. And then he, like, wakes up pretty abruptly after that.

01;14;37;16 - 01;14;38;01
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

01;14;38;02 - 01;14;38;24
Speaker 2
Oh, I guess.

01;14;38;27 - 01;14;41;03
Speaker 3
Let's see. I wanna stay to sleep. If it was him.

01;14;41;03 - 01;14;44;06
Speaker 2
It's literally the same as the first go.

01;14;44;06 - 01;14;45;20
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01;14;45;21 - 01;14;51;28
Speaker 2
Where he's holding a baby, it's Lou, and then she disappears. He's got the black hands. And then when he looks out into the ocean.

01;14;52;00 - 01;14;52;20
Speaker 3
There's.

01;14;52;22 - 01;14;54;16
Speaker 2
He sees the big lady.

01;14;54;19 - 01;15;02;00
Speaker 3
The big lady hearing you go, that's a big bed. She was very like uncharacteristic. I think.

01;15;02;03 - 01;15;02;14
Speaker 1
I was trying.

01;15;02;14 - 01;15;07;21
Speaker 2
To go for the better part. Yeah, yeah. Apologies. I don't like to necessarily use that word.

01;15;07;23 - 01;15;17;06
Speaker 3
I don't ever use it. So it's just like I was like, well, I had big. It's like hearing your dad say fuck for the first.

01;15;17;09 - 01;15;19;15
Speaker 1
Really?

01;15;19;18 - 01;15;26;06
Speaker 2
That's fucking hilarious. But yeah, it looks like I guess looking at this image, it does look like Emily is holding a child. Is that for sure?

01;15;26;06 - 01;15;27;03
Speaker 3
Just staying.

01;15;27;05 - 01;15;30;25
Speaker 2
Eye. You can't see what she's holding, but she's cradling. Whatever.

01;15;30;27 - 01;15;32;22
Speaker 3
Something. Yeah.

01;15;32;25 - 01;15;54;01
Speaker 2
So, anyway. Yeah. So we do that, again, more Death Stranding, two more Death Stranding shit happens. Essentially, you go through the whole rigamarole. It's very similar to, like, the first kind of I can remember what it was called, but, like, do you guys know that first sort of hub that you get to in Death Stranding? One, where you're like, okay, you get to the wind farm from here, but you can also go over here.

01;15;54;01 - 01;15;55;09
Speaker 3
This is like east not or.

01;15;55;11 - 01;16;03;28
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, it's very similar to that. Yes. There is a big walled off city that you just don't get access to.

01;16;04;01 - 01;16;06;15
Speaker 1
Yeah, I said this and I didn't go.

01;16;06;18 - 01;16;17;23
Speaker 2
Yeah, I didn't either. Yeah. But yeah. So anyway, this guy is like, yeah, you can go downstairs, you can sleep, blah, blah, blah. I'm pissed that I can't look at the little action figures on the bookshelf.

01;16;17;26 - 01;16;22;14
Speaker 3
I feel like like the room is even there's like, in general, less interactive than the.

01;16;22;14 - 01;16;27;28
Speaker 1
First one they are. So they don't do the thing anymore, where if you look at Norman Reedus, his crotch. Yeah.

01;16;28;00 - 01;16;31;13
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like punches you like he doesn't like. How long did it.

01;16;31;13 - 01;16;34;16
Speaker 2
Take you to discover that James.

01;16;34;18 - 01;16;41;07
Speaker 1
James just stared at 20 minutes. So, like, it's going to happen. That's actually me.

01;16;41;07 - 01;16;47;19
Speaker 2
That's the chapter two to chapter three that you were playing. Yeah, just just staring at the crotch or.

01;16;47;21 - 01;16;49;02
Speaker 1
Yeah, but.

01;16;49;04 - 01;17;05;03
Speaker 2
But anyway, this is the time at which I did the VR missions because I was like, oh, this feels like I should probably get familiar with how the guns work. And the VR missions are chill, like, it's literally just sneak from here to here without being saying, here's a gun, here's how you use it. Kill these dudes.

01;17;05;03 - 01;17;15;25
Speaker 2
Then there's like a one on one melee fight that is like a tutorial. The timing of like, so you can grab, a package and use it as a weapon.

01;17;15;28 - 01;17;16;26
Speaker 1
Like, oh.

01;17;16;28 - 01;17;23;23
Speaker 2
But mid swing, if you let go of the trigger, you just fucking yeet the.

01;17;23;25 - 01;17;24;16
Speaker 1


01;17;24;17 - 01;17;29;15
Speaker 2
And the and the in the VR mission will not let you progress until you've hit this dude.

01;17;29;17 - 01;17;31;23
Speaker 3
With arm. And I love that.

01;17;31;23 - 01;17;35;11
Speaker 2
But the timing was like a little tricky, so I kid you not.

01;17;35;14 - 01;17;36;07
Speaker 1


01;17;36;09 - 01;17;49;09
Speaker 2
I would launch the package. It would. It would not go anywhere near him. He would come at me. I'd beat the shit out of him. That run and pick the package back up, try to hit him with it, miss.

01;17;49;12 - 01;17;50;03
Speaker 1
Beat the shit.

01;17;50;03 - 01;17;50;21
Speaker 2
Out of him.

01;17;50;25 - 01;17;59;22
Speaker 3
That it feels. It feels like when you're trying to hit a special ability and a fucking souls game and you just keep whiffing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

01;17;59;24 - 01;18;19;13
Speaker 2
Funny. But when I finally got it, it was very funny. There was just like a thump and the dude just fell over to, But yeah, the VR missions are fun. I was like, I should do these. And I did, and it was good. But then we get tasked with delivering medical equipment to a little farm.

01;18;19;18 - 01;18;21;17
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Libra. We've got to go.

01;18;21;19 - 01;18;25;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. James, you to tell us about this trek for you in your game?

01;18;25;20 - 01;18;32;04
Speaker 1
Yeah. This particular trek to the farm is this is this the one where you go through Spider Hill?

01;18;32;07 - 01;18;34;01
Speaker 3
No, no, that's the next one, I think.

01;18;34;04 - 01;18;34;18
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;18;34;22 - 01;18;40;08
Speaker 2
The one Spider Hill is the, lead up to the little mountain area where you have to steal a shit from the bandits.

01;18;40;12 - 01;18;45;05
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's right, the medical. The medical. You, know, it's up road.

01;18;45;06 - 01;18;48;02
Speaker 2
This is the woman who's, like, in the nightgown.

01;18;48;04 - 01;18;52;29
Speaker 3
Yeah. She's a she's a pregnant lady that's like seven months pregnant, but, like, she's been seven months pregnant for two years.

01;18;52;29 - 01;19;19;02
Speaker 1
I don't remember much of, like, the trek itself there. I do remember I thought that the story behind this little village was more interesting than most of the stories we got from, like, the random House in Death Stranding. One, like she is a former bandit that got pregnant, realized that she couldn't live that life anymore, and this community of elderly people took her in.

01;19;19;04 - 01;19;31;24
Speaker 1
And so she's like the youngest person there, but is experiencing, I think they call it, they explain it in like, a Codex entry. I'm sorry.

01;19;31;26 - 01;19;35;11
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's not like a stillbirth, but it's like, like stillborn.

01;19;35;11 - 01;19;35;18
Speaker 1
It's.

01;19;35;18 - 01;19;38;05
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's like a weird halted pregnancy, but, yeah.

01;19;38;06 - 01;19;44;18
Speaker 1
They're like seven months. They stopped growing at, like, the seventh month mark and just kind of like, freeze. Yeah. It's like.

01;19;44;18 - 01;19;48;13
Speaker 2
Second trimester, I guess. Second. Yeah. Or beginning of the third or something.

01;19;48;16 - 01;19;58;03
Speaker 1
Yeah. This person is, is experiencing this. Yeah, I think I think on the way there, there was also a bandit camp that I snuck through as well. Yeah.

01;19;58;07 - 01;19;59;06
Speaker 2
I see in this video.

01;19;59;06 - 01;20;00;21
Speaker 3
There, kind of, like peppered around. Yeah.

01;20;00;21 - 01;20;04;12
Speaker 2
Yeah. I didn't encounter any of them. I just like fucking straight shot at it.

01;20;04;12 - 01;20;06;21
Speaker 3
I got my two and that was really all I saw.

01;20;06;21 - 01;20;22;06
Speaker 1
Yeah yeah, yeah. Oh no. It was actually this bandit camp on the way to this one. I was sneaking around it and one of the guys saw me, and this is when I snuck around and I saw Alexios ladder. Oh, okay. Sprinted away. Okay.

01;20;22;09 - 01;20;28;10
Speaker 2
So apparently I got close to the bandit camp and did not engage in any way because I did not encounter. That's for.

01;20;28;10 - 01;20;30;25
Speaker 3
Me. I like that a lot.

01;20;30;28 - 01;20;33;03
Speaker 2
22 I it'll be $25.

01;20;33;05 - 01;20;39;14
Speaker 3
I think, to see. Geez, you see your friends? Shit. You have to have form a strand contract. Is that right or is.

01;20;39;14 - 01;20;41;08
Speaker 2
I don't think we had one yet. I don't.

01;20;41;09 - 01;20;42;01
Speaker 3
Understand what that.

01;20;42;01 - 01;20;48;21
Speaker 1
Does. I think, yeah, the strand contract makes it more likely that you'll see that person change. Okay. Yeah.

01;20;48;21 - 01;21;06;15
Speaker 2
Because I sent. I sent you guys one after we talked about it, but I remember Lily, I think I sent you one the first time I played, but then I sent a couple other people, and for some reason, only one of the people who I sent one to has, like, an icon of two hands shaking.

01;21;06;20 - 01;21;06;29
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;21;06;29 - 01;21;12;22
Speaker 2
And so I don't know if that means that, like, I engaged with their shit and they've engaged with mine, or if that means they've accepted.

01;21;12;28 - 01;21;19;23
Speaker 3
I don't think so, because I, I know that I didn't see any of your stuff, and I sent you one when I was playing last and it goes. And again.

01;21;19;24 - 01;21;22;03
Speaker 2
You have the handshake. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.

01;21;22;03 - 01;21;28;04
Speaker 3
I don't have that happened with what happened with you. You, Alex and,

01;21;28;06 - 01;21;29;15
Speaker 2
Chad got it.

01;21;29;18 - 01;21;30;15
Speaker 3
And I don't think.

01;21;30;15 - 01;21;40;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, and I'm a little ahead of you both now, so I'll be curious if you see any of my things, you know? Yeah, yeah, you're going through because I tried to play some good things over there.

01;21;40;11 - 01;21;43;17
Speaker 2
Trying to lay some pipe for your friends.

01;21;43;20 - 01;21;46;14
Speaker 1
And,

01;21;46;16 - 01;21;52;00
Speaker 2
This woman who's pregnant, just her name of her character is a la madre. So the mother.

01;21;52;02 - 01;21;53;02
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;21;53;04 - 01;21;54;20
Speaker 2
She.

01;21;54;23 - 01;21;55;05
Speaker 1
Gives.

01;21;55;05 - 01;22;11;09
Speaker 2
You, this chiral density quest. Essentially, these chiral density gauges have been stolen by bandits. They are holed up in the mountains. You can go there. She. As you're kind of leaving, she's like, oh, by the way, I have this, like, side thing.

01;22;11;12 - 01;22;11;19
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;22;11;21 - 01;22;21;19
Speaker 2
And for whatever reason, the way that the interface was set up, I thought I had accepted the side thing and that's what was taking me to the mountains. But then it was like.

01;22;21;21 - 01;22;22;00
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;22;22;00 - 01;22;31;18
Speaker 2
As I was wandering away, I noticed some other shit on the map, and I was like, oh no, I think I'm. And at that point I was like, already in the mountains. And I was like, well, fuck.

01;22;31;18 - 01;22;41;14
Speaker 3
Okay. Yeah. Because I was so unclear about what was going on there. So I just kept going and it was like, not the not the move. You want to do the side mission that happened again with the artists as well as why I didn't do that.

01;22;41;14 - 01;22;46;15
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's like the opposite direction of where the game is pointing you. So it's kind of weird, but.

01;22;46;17 - 01;22;51;23
Speaker 3
Though I wish I did, because the next thing you have to do is go through fucking Spider Hill.

01;22;51;23 - 01;22;54;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. So, Lily, tell us about Spider Hill.

01;22;54;10 - 01;22;56;04
Speaker 3
Oh my God. So I bet.

01;22;56;06 - 01;22;57;28
Speaker 2
Is the titular Spider Hill. That mountain?

01;22;57;28 - 01;22;59;24
Speaker 3
It is. That mountain is the titular spider.

01;22;59;24 - 01;23;03;28
Speaker 2
Because I did some spiders. I'm not sure if it was the spider killer.

01;23;03;29 - 01;23;19;19
Speaker 3
Spider Hill, I, yeah. So my whole thing with it is like, I, I saw it on the map. I was bleeding my point. I was like, there's no way around this, is there? Like, I have to go through Spider Hill, do that on fucking purpose to mess with me. So.

01;23;19;22 - 01;23;23;14
Speaker 2
Actually engage with the spiders. I saw them from a distance and just walked the other.

01;23;23;14 - 01;23;24;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, well.

01;23;24;09 - 01;23;34;04
Speaker 3
So the way that I went in. So it was interesting, right? Because like, you go in and you go in the thing and there's a path and you follow the path, and then there's just a fucking cluster. I'm just sitting on the.

01;23;34;04 - 01;23;36;14
Speaker 1
Path, just like.

01;23;36;17 - 01;23;38;15
Speaker 2
You like really pretty vegetation.

01;23;38;17 - 01;23;49;24
Speaker 3
Yeah, it's really pretty fucking with the fucking spiders. Yeah. Lush. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Fish with spiders. Lush with baths. Yeah. Lousy with spiders.

01;23;49;26 - 01;23;54;07
Speaker 1
Picture carpets. Fight all.

01;23;54;09 - 01;24;11;06
Speaker 3
Come to our spider dealership on first and Euclid. We got spiders out there. Was there? Yeah. No. So? So it's like you just. You're walking on this path and it's very clear, like this is the critical path is like, this is the way up, and it's like, and they're just in the pathway is like, oh my God, no, no.

01;24;11;06 - 01;24;27;02
Speaker 3
And, and then I'm okay, I'm going to fucking circumnavigate these spiders. And I went off to the left as far as I could, and I was being blocked by a wall, but I was like, I'm just going to go around. And I kind of go around, you walk and then you just hear like, dang, because I was too close.

01;24;27;02 - 01;24;45;18
Speaker 3
And they started like swarming me. And I was like, you should have fucking heard me. I was like, and I was like, I was not having a good time, and I just fucking bolted past them. And then they left me alone after a minute. And then thankfully, I didn't see them again. But they really like front loaded that experience with the worst possible for me.

01;24;45;21 - 01;24;58;22
Speaker 3
I was not happy. This is somebody. I don't think I ever followed up with you on this, Alessio, but I did fucking figure out how to mod Dark Souls two. Oh, are you serious? So the end. So I made the spiders. All the spiders. Skeletons.

01;24;58;24 - 01;25;00;02
Speaker 2
That's fucking amazing.

01;25;00;05 - 01;25;11;17
Speaker 3
Yeah. And it was much more peaceful for me going through that. And then again, fucking Freya was, like, not a problem for me, because Freya was like a fucking.

01;25;11;21 - 01;25;12;10
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

01;25;12;12 - 01;25;12;28
Speaker 3
Like.

01;25;13;01 - 01;25;13;22
Speaker 2
A cartoonish.

01;25;13;23 - 01;25;33;19
Speaker 3
Super, super cartoonish spider. But the little the the the smaller ones are, like, very much like spiders. And so I can't do that. I fucking, I fucking I modded my first video game specifically so that I didn't have to deal with spiders. So that's that's how bad I hate spiders. And these are like little. They're like. They're very like.

01;25;33;19 - 01;25;36;23
Speaker 2
They look like large tarantulas with like, go ahead.

01;25;36;26 - 01;25;38;16
Speaker 1
Yes.

01;25;38;18 - 01;25;39;20
Speaker 3
And I still like it.

01;25;39;23 - 01;25;52;12
Speaker 2
I had learned my lesson. So there's like, I had encountered, like, a roving pack of what I can only call the suds bubbles. But it's the, like, weird little scrubbing bubble. Oh, you know.

01;25;52;14 - 01;25;53;08
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01;25;53;08 - 01;25;55;17
Speaker 2
They're the ones that that we had talked about in the opening cutscene.

01;25;55;17 - 01;25;57;19
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't run into them yet now.

01;25;57;21 - 01;26;16;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. They were just like wandering the desert and I, there were a whole bunch of like the chiral crystals near them. So I was like, yeah, those guys don't look like they'll do anything. Let me just go pick those up. And they swarmed me and I was like, new, new, new, new. And so the moment I saw the spiders in the mountains, I was like, no.

01;26;16;08 - 01;26;18;08
Speaker 2
And I just, like, sprinted around.

01;26;18;08 - 01;26;32;11
Speaker 3
Yeah. I wound up getting attacked by them. And I was like, fuck, fuck, fuck. And then I just ran up and that was like the end of running because I was like, I was, but I was like, I was on fucking edge the entire time I was going through that fucking forest. It was like, but they never showed up again.

01;26;32;11 - 01;26;36;14
Speaker 3
And I wonder if they were just Charlie's in the trees watching me.

01;26;36;17 - 01;26;38;13
Speaker 1
They were there. I,

01;26;38;15 - 01;26;39;28
Speaker 2
I love this mountain.

01;26;40;00 - 01;26;44;14
Speaker 3
Thank you James, I appreciate. Oh, I actually.

01;26;44;16 - 01;27;00;08
Speaker 2
I love this mountain because it feels like such a different piece of terrain than, like, a lot of what we experienced in the first game. Like, there were mountains. But for some reason, this one felt different. It felt more akin to rock climbing.

01;27;00;10 - 01;27;01;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. It was. Yeah.

01;27;01;09 - 01;27;05;17
Speaker 2
If you wanted to, you could find these little footholds to set a ladder up.

01;27;05;19 - 01;27;10;03
Speaker 3
Careful. Isaac is flying home from Turkey as we speak. You said rock climbing.

01;27;10;06 - 01;27;11;08
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;27;11;10 - 01;27;13;02
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;27;13;05 - 01;27;29;26
Speaker 2
He would be perfect for this. He'd be perfect for this discussion and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Now we're fumbling in the dark without Isaac limb. Because I don't know how this fucking sport works. But, but no, it's very fun. I liked it a lot. Funny enough, I actually didn't end up using a lot of tools.

01;27;29;26 - 01;27;34;11
Speaker 2
I was just, like, kind of finding little, like, oh, I could walk up there and I can walk up here.

01;27;34;13 - 01;27;48;06
Speaker 3
I think the only time I ever, like, actually, like, use, like I had, like, some climbing, pissed pit patterns or whatever the fuck they're called, the little climbing pikes and like other stuff. And I was like, I only ever use like a couple of ladders across rivers, like I was. I was pretty good, like finding my way.

01;27;48;09 - 01;27;56;21
Speaker 1
But yeah, it's very like if you look around, you can find a lot more ways to climb up than a that you can.

01;27;56;23 - 01;27;59;09
Speaker 2
Also love the momentum of when you're like walking down.

01;27;59;11 - 01;28;04;09
Speaker 1
I actually do I come around on it more. It's a lot of fun. Yeah.

01;28;04;12 - 01;28;11;20
Speaker 2
It is the GranTurismo of walking simulators. Or Tim Rogers thing.

01;28;11;22 - 01;28;33;21
Speaker 3
This is this was when, I mentioned the pratfall stuff last episode. This was when I get to the top and I'm, like, trying to find my way down, and I, like, go kind of, like, in the wrong direction. I, like, tripped and Sam just, like, collapsed. And he's just like, I'm holding the balance, but he's just sliding, all the way down.

01;28;33;21 - 01;28;47;18
Speaker 3
I was like, yeah, it reminded me a little bit of that, that scene in Twin Snakes where it's kind of like rolling down the hill and low. Yeah, nothing you can do about it. It's is like. It's like going down.

01;28;47;20 - 01;28;49;21
Speaker 1
But you.

01;28;49;24 - 01;28;54;15
Speaker 3
But you get through fucking Spider Hill and you have to build a watchtower.

01;28;54;18 - 01;28;55;25
Speaker 2
To the watchtower.

01;28;55;26 - 01;29;01;11
Speaker 3
Yeah. To like, scope out this bandit camp in the woods. And it became nighttime for me when this happens. Yeah, 100%.

01;29;01;11 - 01;29;01;28
Speaker 2
Sam. Yeah.

01;29;02;01 - 01;29;03;17
Speaker 3
Full stealth mode as well.

01;29;03;20 - 01;29;10;09
Speaker 2
Except I think it is dynamic because, I'm looking at the long play, and this feller is doing it in the daytime.

01;29;10;16 - 01;29;19;26
Speaker 3
Yeah. So we just all happened, like, get there around nighttime. Yeah, yeah. But it felt perfect for nighttime. Like thief in the night trying to steal these things from a man. Yeah, I.

01;29;19;26 - 01;29;23;19
Speaker 2
Did feel really good at night. As a matter of fact, watching this man do it in the daytime feels kind of weird.

01;29;23;22 - 01;29;39;07
Speaker 3
Yeah. But, But, yeah. No, this is where I like, I stealth, I stealth the first guy because there's another six guys. And when you use the Watchtower, it gives you a little count timer at the top. Yeah, I think I count all the time. Like, how many people are there? Yeah, it's really nice.

01;29;39;07 - 01;29;42;06
Speaker 2
You can also mark them manually. All. Yeah. Solid five. Yeah.

01;29;42;14 - 01;29;48;27
Speaker 3
Yeah. With that with the compass and that that's that they kind of teach you that earlier on like.

01;29;49;00 - 01;29;55;20
Speaker 2
My favorite thing is if you don't mark them and you just use your little. I have no idea what the fuck it's called. The shoulder mounted.

01;29;55;23 - 01;30;02;15
Speaker 3
The what? It's called. It's called the Erdrich Jack. But as per tradition, I'm going to continue calling it the Odenkirk. Yes.

01;30;02;18 - 01;30;08;00
Speaker 2
So the Bob. Yeah, you can get it to like, you know, how you can get it to like, shoot out its little.

01;30;08;02 - 01;30;09;01
Speaker 3
Hole or whatever. Yeah.

01;30;09;06 - 01;30;16;03
Speaker 2
So because bandits have shit on their person, you can use the items as they're moving around to like track.

01;30;16;04 - 01;30;17;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

01;30;17;10 - 01;30;18;27
Speaker 3
I learned that in the VR mission.

01;30;18;27 - 01;30;43;09
Speaker 2
But the funny part and this legit happened to me at one point, is I knocked the dude down, grabbed his shit and left. Did not mark him, and he was not down later, and he 100% scared the shit out of me. So if you steal an item from them, just make sure you mark them because they will be wandering around again.

01;30;43;10 - 01;30;44;18
Speaker 1
Turn them.

01;30;44;20 - 01;31;06;00
Speaker 3
But, But yeah, the it felt very good. It feels very Metal gear. It felt really good. I stealth, I stealth I, I found two of them. And then the one inside of, like, a little building. He turned around on me. And it gave you that, like where it slows down from five. And you have a, like, a pretty, like, quick second to deal with it.

01;31;06;00 - 01;31;11;10
Speaker 3
And I, like, ran up to him as the fucking punched him and knocked him out there have done.

01;31;11;13 - 01;31;14;21
Speaker 2
So much more realistic than metal. Yeah I've though.

01;31;14;21 - 01;31;16;17
Speaker 3
Yeah, it is incredibly realistic.

01;31;16;17 - 01;31;18;16
Speaker 2
Yeah. If you can see them.

01;31;18;18 - 01;31;19;11
Speaker 3
They can and they.

01;31;19;11 - 01;31;22;10
Speaker 2
Turn and see you, they can like straight up fucking see it's crazy. Yeah.

01;31;22;11 - 01;31;37;12
Speaker 3
Like there was one guy on top of a, on top of a ridge that was like stretching. And he was like, And then he was like, he was like, do that thing, the side turn. And so when he turned one way, he would you could see behind him. So it's like shit where you got a timeout and he's just like doing that in a loop.

01;31;37;12 - 01;31;47;17
Speaker 3
And so it's like you have the time when you go get him. Because if he if he's stretching, he turns around. It's easy to be like, oh what the fuck? And then like deal him like, yeah, yeah, raise the alarm. So it's like little shit like that.

01;31;47;17 - 01;31;55;05
Speaker 2
It's like that's they're also way smarter when they come to search for something. Think they saw like that kind of give the attitude.

01;31;55;07 - 01;31;55;28
Speaker 1
They're going to flank.

01;31;55;28 - 01;31;59;18
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah yeah it's crazy. And they go way further than you think.

01;31;59;18 - 01;32;10;22
Speaker 1
Wave. Yes. Yeah. Because like like they'll just keep chasing you for a while too. Yeah. It was crazy. Just like following me and like throwing like the electric spears at me. Yeah. What felt like. Yeah.

01;32;10;25 - 01;32;20;12
Speaker 2
Yeah. This area kind of reminds me of, you know, in my dojo, solid five, the area where you fight the man on fire with the water tower.

01;32;20;14 - 01;32;21;08
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;32;21;10 - 01;32;23;18
Speaker 2
And kind of like where it's.

01;32;23;20 - 01;32;23;25
Speaker 3
The.

01;32;23;27 - 01;32;27;23
Speaker 2
Code talker. That's kind of. What's this? Reminded me of this area.

01;32;27;25 - 01;32;30;08
Speaker 3
I see that for sure.

01;32;30;11 - 01;32;36;26
Speaker 2
But, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it. Until you get to the drop off point for these items that you're stealing back from the bandits, is.

01;32;36;26 - 01;32;43;15
Speaker 3
This when you go to the backdrop of white and this is where you, like, go up the mountain in the gateway cabins? Or is that the next one, I think.

01;32;43;17 - 01;32;50;05
Speaker 2
Oh, that's a good question. I think because you're going down the mountain here.

01;32;50;08 - 01;32;55;19
Speaker 3
Yeah. You go up Spider Hill and you go down Spider Hill to get into like the valley where it's, Yeah.

01;32;55;19 - 01;32;58;21
Speaker 2
But the to get out. Right. Yeah, yeah. Let me.

01;32;58;21 - 01;33;08;10
Speaker 3
Yeah. So I'm pretty sure this way you, this is where you go up and there is a fucking gate quake and you're going up this slope and fucking boulders or tumbling. Yeah, you have to.

01;33;08;10 - 01;33;08;16
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;33;08;16 - 01;33;20;17
Speaker 3
That is and this is where this is where I was like, oh, fuck. And I felt like I was playing Donkey Kong avoiding barrels because you're just like, I'm like swerving. And I didn't get walloped, thankfully. But I was like, I was this close, like five different times. It was very stressful.

01;33;20;22 - 01;33;34;25
Speaker 2
Yeah. Don't say, anything about Nintendo properties, though, because, later on in the script for this game, I'm sure somebody is going to say, oh, this is just like Dankey Kang and Princess Bee Pauline.

01;33;34;28 - 01;33;46;22
Speaker 3
No. Also. Well, so, a company that's owned by Nintendo helped with capture for this game. There's a new story about it. So there's like a there's a Nintendo connection in this game. So.

01;33;46;22 - 01;33;47;25
Speaker 2
I have connected, you.

01;33;47;26 - 01;33;59;08
Speaker 3
Know, so I'm anticipating another it feels like the thing it feels like something that is just like it was such a fucking meme. After, the first one that he's gonna do something to.

01;33;59;08 - 01;34;02;06
Speaker 2
Yeah, he has to,

01;34;02;08 - 01;34;27;17
Speaker 3
But also just unrelated. I'm looking. Yeah. Nintendo pictures help with motion capture for Death Stranding. Two from VJC. Yeah. That's crazy. It's also worth noting, underneath that, Alex shared a screenshot of like, the the the little green text that says this person used your thing. Yang. Yeah. Upgraded a thing near a place. Is what the screenshot like?

01;34;27;17 - 01;34;37;14
Speaker 3
It doesn't say that I'm, like, obfuscating. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Is playing this game. And Alex saw an update for something that he had upgraded nearby. I was like, oh no, that's pretty sick.

01;34;37;16 - 01;34;40;16
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;34;40;19 - 01;34;55;14
Speaker 2
Yeah. So we end up, as soon as you come out of that little hill area though, you then have like a cool music track comes on, which there was also cool music. I think the first track was Wood Kid, but there was some cool music on the way home. So there's still those sort of like moments.

01;34;55;14 - 01;34;59;07
Speaker 2
There's like Death Stranding moments. Yeah, like now the cinema happens.

01;34;59;13 - 01;34;59;27
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;35;00;02 - 01;35;04;23
Speaker 3
I mentioned this and I kind of like alluded to this. Or there was a point where a low roar song did pop up and I was like,

01;35;04;25 - 01;35;05;11
Speaker 2
Yeah, that.

01;35;05;11 - 01;35;06;13
Speaker 3
Comes in like, hit me.

01;35;06;13 - 01;35;11;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, just how it goes from there. Posthumous record that came out.

01;35;11;11 - 01;35;13;12
Speaker 3
Yeah. Which is like really which is.

01;35;13;12 - 01;35;26;01
Speaker 1
Really like fucking like it's a heavy ass record. Beautiful. That is beautiful. And, yeah, it was like. It was cool to hear it. Given how involved they were with, the first game. Yeah.

01;35;26;04 - 01;35;53;28
Speaker 2
Yeah. As we're approaching, we get a big thing saying this is. See, one South distribution center. Center spelled the British way, Trade Center. Brits in Mexico. Yeah, I guess, but, it also, I just wanted to point out, because we didn't do it the first time, but, as you approach these things, they'll tell you the number of inhabitants and then kind of tell you who's like the managing officer of the building, which is kind of cool.

01;35;54;00 - 01;36;13;22
Speaker 1
I do like you'll have, like, the world building just throughout, like, every little detail, like I think, Lily, you mentioned it's crazy how many systems are at play. So I was like, yeah, like narratively, like from a world building environment, like menu design standpoint. How many details there are. Yeah.

01;36;13;24 - 01;36;26;26
Speaker 3
It's worth noting to like all of these different places they have like low people counts. There's like some have two digit, some have like you know 10,000 people. The first one the fucking see one place has like 100,000 plus people.

01;36;26;28 - 01;36;27;15
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;36;27;15 - 01;36;28;17
Speaker 3
It's crazy.

01;36;28;24 - 01;36;35;04
Speaker 2
I'm assuming that it's connected. That is it is that walled city, that big city that we see. But can't go into, I think.

01;36;35;05 - 01;36;51;09
Speaker 3
Oh. Oh shit. One thing that I did want to bring up because I was like, what the fuck is like going back to the delivering the medical units to that, to that one place. So it's American. It was one of the places you're delivering to. And it's just like, I'm so glad you're no, it's the next one. It's the one.

01;36;51;09 - 01;36;55;29
Speaker 3
It's delivering it to the lab I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll get there. It's fucked up.

01;36;56;01 - 01;37;14;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's pretty on there. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. So, we can kind of jump ahead because, like, I think essentially all that happens once you deliver this stuff is you go to the private room, you do get a call from, fragile. I keep wanting to say quiet or fortune.

01;37;15;01 - 01;37;16;28
Speaker 1
Or.

01;37;17;00 - 01;37;19;14
Speaker 2
Can you imagine if fortune just fucking showed.

01;37;19;14 - 01;37;19;20
Speaker 3
Up?

01;37;19;20 - 01;37;23;09
Speaker 2
Yeah. With that amazing sax saxophone, man.

01;37;23;09 - 01;37;25;07
Speaker 1
Boom.

01;37;25;09 - 01;37;27;19
Speaker 3
That was not good. Sorry.

01;37;27;21 - 01;37;55;18
Speaker 2
But you get this, you get this moment effectively where, fragile shows up. She gives you a quick little update. You're chilling in your room, blah, blah, blah. I'm pretty sure the room chilling at this point. I think the first one was semi mandatory, but the room chilling here is, is optional. Yeah, yeah. And I have to keep telling myself I'm like, no matter how many times you watch this man shower, do not skip it because they will throw unique ones in here.

01;37;55;18 - 01;37;57;18
Speaker 2
I'm sure, like they did with the first one.

01;37;57;25 - 01;38;04;25
Speaker 1
Yeah. Well, and there's a, gameplay mechanic bonus now just showering, which is they give you the additional, like, I really am, I.

01;38;04;26 - 01;38;06;18
Speaker 3
Really am, yeah. That washes off your body.

01;38;06;18 - 01;38;10;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. And then also, I think you get, a stamina boost.

01;38;10;26 - 01;38;11;24
Speaker 1
To stamina.

01;38;11;26 - 01;38;13;21
Speaker 2
For washing your face. I think so, yeah.

01;38;13;28 - 01;38;16;29
Speaker 1
And for drinking and eating the little. Yeah.

01;38;17;06 - 01;38;17;25
Speaker 3
Crap about.

01;38;17;26 - 01;38;19;23
Speaker 1
The. It's. Yeah, yeah.

01;38;19;26 - 01;38;41;11
Speaker 3
It's also worth noting too, if you I think I can't remember it, it's probably kilograms because. Yeah, but if you collect like a for every 1000 cranium you pick up. Yeah, your load is reduced by a kilogram. So you can carry more stuff. Oh really let you pick up. Yeah. For every 1000 of those. Yeah. Yeah.

01;38;41;13 - 01;38;49;23
Speaker 2
But yeah. And then effectively from here we get given kind of the, the big quest I guess like.

01;38;49;23 - 01;38;51;07
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;38;51;10 - 01;38;58;05
Speaker 2
To deliver some bullets to, are they emit bullets like they.

01;38;58;12 - 01;38;58;24
Speaker 3
MP.

01;38;58;24 - 01;38;59;20
Speaker 2
MP or.

01;38;59;21 - 01;39;00;17
Speaker 1
Multi-purpose.

01;39;00;24 - 01;39;22;22
Speaker 2
Yeah. You get these, MP bullets that can, hurt beats so we can finally fucking shoot these motherfuckers. You can shoot some beats. But in order to do so and take them where they need to go, you actually have to go through some beauty infested ruins. And all, you have our blood grenades, and it sounds like, the dude.

01;39;22;22 - 01;39;36;22
Speaker 2
I'm sure I remember exactly what he says. I think he said something along the lines of, like, it doesn't just have to be Sam's blood anymore. So you can just, like, fabricate however many you need. I guess it goes hand in hand with what you guys are saying about people getting more people developing.

01;39;36;25 - 01;39;41;05
Speaker 1
So, yeah, they've got a steadier supply of Doom's blood.

01;39;41;07 - 01;39;44;21
Speaker 2
Of the Doom Slayer to just show up.

01;39;44;24 - 01;39;46;01
Speaker 1
But, there.

01;39;46;06 - 01;40;00;28
Speaker 2
So anyway, you get these grenades and you have to go through these ruins to get to this lab. I was so heinously fucked. This, that I got mad and almost, like, restarted the chat.

01;40;01;05 - 01;40;02;08
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah.

01;40;02;09 - 01;40;13;12
Speaker 2
Because, like, well, because, like, I'm wandering in, he he does the whole thing where, like. So now you don't have a baby that starts crying whenever there's pets, like Sam can just sense it or whatever.

01;40;13;14 - 01;40;15;12
Speaker 3
But you have to get, like, really fucking close to them.

01;40;15;12 - 01;40;32;01
Speaker 2
Yeah. And you can hit the little scanner as well and it will like pick up or whatever. But anyway, so that came up and it was like, okay, so I went into R1 stance to crouch, walk or whatever. I see them in the distance. I'm holding my breath. I get to like a little vantage point and I'm like, okay, I'm going to just throw a fucking grenade at this.

01;40;32;01 - 01;40;51;27
Speaker 2
So because there's so many that I'm like, I just need to punch a hole in this wall so I can get through it. I throw the grenade, it just straight fucking misses, and then it goes off, and then the mist kind of touches one of them and just like, pisses it all. And then it just like be lined for me.

01;40;52;00 - 01;41;11;14
Speaker 2
And I was like, God damn it. So I just, like, broke into a sprint, immediately got fucking smash and grabbed and, I broke free and then immediately got slammed again and then just got fucking sucked out into a field with like, a boss. I was so.

01;41;11;21 - 01;41;18;03
Speaker 3
Young, Sue James. Or was it like, did you manage to work because I also got joined then I don't know what I did wrong.

01;41;18;06 - 01;41;30;24
Speaker 1
So I was actually that's actually very interested that that was your experience because, no, I was surprised at how easy this spot was like I interesting. Okay, five grenades, I encountered five BDS and I was on my merry way.

01;41;30;26 - 01;41;33;02
Speaker 2
Oh, you didn't fight a boss at all?

01;41;33;04 - 01;41;35;14
Speaker 1
I fought the boss after this part.

01;41;35;14 - 01;41;37;21
Speaker 3
Well, that one, I'm a unitary, but, like. Yeah, you're just like.

01;41;37;21 - 01;41;40;16
Speaker 2
A like a dolphin. Like a weird dolphin. Fucked with.

01;41;40;16 - 01;41;41;09
Speaker 3
Dolphin?

01;41;41;09 - 01;41;42;24
Speaker 1
No. Oh.

01;41;42;25 - 01;42;00;23
Speaker 3
Interesting. Okay, so. So you remember in the first one how if you get. Right, if you get if you get dragged down by like this. Yeah. Like this. Had that happened here. And so for me, I didn't have the same experience. I didn't use any grenades up to this point. I was just kind of like swerving around. And I was doing fine.

01;42;00;25 - 01;42;08;08
Speaker 3
And then I went through a building and I came around the other side, and then just like they just screamed at me and.

01;42;08;10 - 01;42;09;01
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;42;09;03 - 01;42;11;01
Speaker 3
And I was I forgot the it's.

01;42;11;01 - 01;42;13;29
Speaker 1
It's a windy. Yeah.

01;42;14;02 - 01;42;21;21
Speaker 3
And I forgot which button was a struggle. And I wasn't looking at the screen and I was panicking. And so I thought, I think it's probably because I didn't start struggling in time, but.

01;42;21;21 - 01;42;22;23
Speaker 2
There only a button to.

01;42;22;23 - 01;42;26;25
Speaker 1
Struggle in real life and. Yeah. No. Yeah. No I yeah.

01;42;26;27 - 01;42;28;27
Speaker 3
You're saying this I did.

01;42;28;29 - 01;42;29;26
Speaker 1
So

01;42;29;28 - 01;42;33;04
Speaker 2
In this long play. Hold on.

01;42;33;06 - 01;42;34;14
Speaker 1
I think I got.

01;42;34;17 - 01;42;40;16
Speaker 2
He does fight it, but I don't think he engages with any enemies, so I don't even know how that even happened.

01;42;40;16 - 01;42;41;11
Speaker 1
Maybe I did fight it.

01;42;41;11 - 01;42;46;21
Speaker 2
And he also does the dumb fucking thing where he just sprayed himself after building the time fall shelter.

01;42;46;23 - 01;42;48;04
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

01;42;48;07 - 01;42;51;20
Speaker 3
But yeah, just a slightly. But I will say again, like I didn't.

01;42;51;20 - 01;42;55;23
Speaker 2
Oh no he didn't. He did get got so okay. James definitely did. Just avoided it.

01;42;55;25 - 01;43;10;25
Speaker 3
I didn't really have issues with it where I did. Like I said I think like as far as like it's just like the squid thing and it's like it was in the first one. I'm pretty sure this exact creature, and so it's just like, again, these kind of like uninspired, like, like mini bosses that you have to deal with.

01;43;10;25 - 01;43;25;06
Speaker 3
And I'm just, like, not super excited about, but the combat itself, I was like, okay, I feel like because of the changes, like, I'm, I feel better about doing it. Yeah. So I just chucked a couple of grenades. I was like dodging and kind of like doing stuff. And I took it out pretty easy.

01;43;25;11 - 01;43;27;21
Speaker 2
How did you dodge? That was the thing that I kept doing.

01;43;27;24 - 01;43;34;28
Speaker 3
When you're telling, you have to tap you. When you're aiming something, you have to tap X. You can't just do that. You have to be aiming and then you and then you kind of.

01;43;34;28 - 01;43;39;15
Speaker 1
Like it's a heavy dodge. Like it is. Yeah. Slow. Yeah. Yeah, a heavy man.

01;43;39;15 - 01;43;53;08
Speaker 2
I just felt like I was just trading blows for this entire fight. Like I would throw a grenade or two, and then I would get fucking slammed and then I would throw two grenades and then get slammed, and it just went that way until I finished.

01;43;53;13 - 01;43;54;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

01;43;54;11 - 01;43;59;17
Speaker 2
The next fight that we're about to cover felt a lot more dynamic.

01;43;59;17 - 01;44;01;28
Speaker 3
Yeah, that one felt like a boss fight.

01;44;01;28 - 01;44;05;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, yeah.

01;44;05;11 - 01;44;26;14
Speaker 3
But yeah, regardless of what you do here, you then get to the next, place to drop the land. Tell us about the lab. I truly don't know if it was this place or if we just didn't talk about it, but you get there, and you give them the bullets, just like, hey, what's going on? It's just like, no, it was the first place because it's like, I'm glad we're on the network so we can dispose of bodies now.

01;44;26;17 - 01;44;39;00
Speaker 3
Without with because we were just throwing them into a tar pit and it turned into a party area. And then we've been getting overwhelmed because people were so scared. They've been killing themselves.

01;44;39;02 - 01;44;39;07
Speaker 1
And.

01;44;39;13 - 01;44;43;28
Speaker 3
And it's compounding the issue of the fucking carpet problem. But we have.

01;44;44;00 - 01;44;44;29
Speaker 1
So super.

01;44;44;29 - 01;44;48;24
Speaker 3
Cool we can dispose of these bodies properly now. Thanks, Sam.

01;44;49;01 - 01;44;56;12
Speaker 2
Just like I like to imagine that the 100 K count of population is. It's just that dude. And then a thousand bodies.

01;44;56;14 - 01;44;58;03
Speaker 3
It was either the. It was either.

01;44;58;03 - 01;45;02;14
Speaker 1
The first one was the first. This. Yeah. Yeah. No you're right. It was the first one.

01;45;02;14 - 01;45;22;19
Speaker 2
There was like my favorite episode of Always Sunny where, Dennis and Mac are living in a home in the suburbs and, Dennis is like, where are you putting the trash that I've been giving you and Max in the trash room, and he open up the home's doors, and there's just a room filled with trash.

01;45;22;21 - 01;45;37;00
Speaker 3
It's just like we don't know what to do with these bodies that we can't properly dispose of. Let's just put them in the tarp. Oh, no. Tarp. It became bacteria and everybody's scared. They're killing themselves. We have to put them in the tarp.

01;45;37;02 - 01;45;40;22
Speaker 1
Itself? No. It's.

01;45;40;24 - 01;45;43;08
Speaker 2
So scared I'm going to kill one.

01;45;43;11 - 01;45;46;07
Speaker 3
So crazy.

01;45;46;10 - 01;45;49;17
Speaker 1
I don't I feel just whatever I'm scared of. Yeah, I feel.

01;45;49;17 - 01;45;55;06
Speaker 2
Like whatever I'm scared of is nowhere near as scared as I am of killing myself. Yeah.

01;45;55;06 - 01;45;57;29
Speaker 1
Right on, guys. Like, what are we doing here?

01;45;58;00 - 01;46;19;22
Speaker 3
You're in a fucking safe building. Like hell. What about what's going on then, man? But yeah. So you get the bullets to the lab, and then you go into your room, and then, the guy's like, dead man wants to talk to you, so. Okay, so you go to your room, and then dead man is there, and he's like my friend Sam.

01;46;19;22 - 01;46;41;02
Speaker 3
And it's like, hey, like, opens his arm. And Sam famously does not like to be touched in the first one. Sam is ready for that. Fucking hell yeah. And so when he goes in for the hug and just phases through Dead Man, I'm just like, fuck, that sucks. That's sad because it looks like he really, actually like being with Lulu has made him like, actually like care about interacting with people now, he.

01;46;41;02 - 01;46;42;13
Speaker 1
Wanted that whole season.

01;46;42;16 - 01;46;45;00
Speaker 3
Yeah, he really wanted that hug. So I was really I mean, he's safe.

01;46;45;00 - 01;46;57;27
Speaker 2
His smile is very it's crazy because it's such a warm smile like Sam smile and he sees that man. But it also like was very unsettling because you just never see Norman Reedus smile.

01;46;57;29 - 01;46;58;29
Speaker 1
Yeah. You know.

01;46;59;04 - 01;47;05;02
Speaker 3
He was thinking. He was thinking fondly to the time of the first one where dead man cornered him in the shower.

01;47;05;05 - 01;47;07;08
Speaker 1
Yes, I remember that.

01;47;07;10 - 01;47;16;26
Speaker 2
But no super cool moment. The dead man hits you with this, like, prerecorded, but again, more like exposition dump. Yeah, this one feels good because it's like.

01;47;16;28 - 01;47;28;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's this exposition. Yeah. Dead man. Also, the dude who runs the facility is the guy from, I think the windmill farm in the first. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

01;47;28;18 - 01;47;33;00
Speaker 3
Because he's like, do you remember me? I was like, yeah. I was like, oh shit, it's that guy. And that's that's pretty cool.

01;47;33;01 - 01;47;35;20
Speaker 2
Oh, he was like, do you remember me? And I was like, I'm sorry, Doug.

01;47;35;22 - 01;47;37;00
Speaker 1
Yeah. I was like, not.

01;47;37;03 - 01;47;39;17
Speaker 3
I did figure it out later. And I was like, oh, okay. Okay.

01;47;39;20 - 01;47;40;15
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;47;40;18 - 01;47;42;23
Speaker 3
The fabled windmill farm. Yeah.

01;47;42;25 - 01;47;43;29
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;47;44;01 - 01;47;48;12
Speaker 2
But no. Yeah. Oh, I like this exposition because it's like new shit.

01;47;48;14 - 01;47;55;10
Speaker 3
Yeah. He's explaining. Yeah. That's what I mentioned in the last one. It's like explaining new stuff. So it feels like it whips spike because it's like, oh, gate quakes and fucking.

01;47;55;11 - 01;47;56;06
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;47;56;09 - 01;48;13;05
Speaker 3
They're dealing with shit in Australian like tar belts and you can't like all this other stuff. Explains like, well, you can't fly over it because the density like sense shoots plane down. You can't take a boat around it because like they think and it's just like, but there's a gate now. And so we got to investigate the gate, you know what I mean?

01;48;13;05 - 01;48;26;00
Speaker 3
And so it's like, okay, cool that. And then you're in this like it's like a hologram and it turns your room into this like, like lab area that he's in. And he's like using, like, blocks and like rockets and shit to kind of.

01;48;26;00 - 01;48;31;09
Speaker 2
Get his little baby bottle to be around. Yeah, he's just making little funny noises and stuff.

01;48;31;11 - 01;48;35;21
Speaker 3
It's very funny. Does he, does he talk about, like, the gift for loot and stuff after.

01;48;35;21 - 01;48;36;00
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;48;36;04 - 01;48;37;11
Speaker 3
After the. Yeah. Okay.

01;48;37;14 - 01;48;49;09
Speaker 2
All because he does my favorite way of splitting up his monologue which like again, feels like it feels like Kojima being like this could be a little too long, so let's like, split it. And I'm like, it's.

01;48;49;11 - 01;48;50;16
Speaker 1
The pacing, it's.

01;48;50;16 - 01;48;51;05
Speaker 3
Growth.

01;48;51;07 - 01;48;53;05
Speaker 1
I'm really enjoying the pacing of this.

01;48;53;06 - 01;48;55;08
Speaker 3
It's really it's been top notch so far.

01;48;55;08 - 01;49;10;28
Speaker 2
Absolutely. But the way he does it is so fucking funny. He's like, oh, I I'll tell you, I've got more I need to tell you. But, is it okay if I pause this recording to go take a shower? Yeah. And then like at that exact moment, like the alarm sirens go. Yeah.

01;49;11;01 - 01;49;11;06
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;49;11;09 - 01;49;14;08
Speaker 2
And, our friend from the weather farm is like.

01;49;14;10 - 01;49;17;04
Speaker 1
Hey, there's a big.

01;49;17;07 - 01;49;19;14
Speaker 2
There's a big one here to see you saying.

01;49;19;17 - 01;49;20;26
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01;49;20;26 - 01;49;22;21
Speaker 2
And, real big.

01;49;22;23 - 01;49;26;00
Speaker 3
Real big one.

01;49;26;02 - 01;49;28;27
Speaker 2
Yes. A Call of Duty two game.

01;49;28;28 - 01;49;30;13
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

01;49;30;16 - 01;49;34;08
Speaker 3
But, was the quality was big red one, right?

01;49;34;10 - 01;49;35;04
Speaker 2
Yes. Yes, yes.

01;49;35;05 - 01;49;38;15
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01;49;38;18 - 01;49;44;12
Speaker 2
But anyway, yeah. So essentially he's like, yo, bro, you might want to get strapped to you.

01;49;44;15 - 01;49;49;22
Speaker 3
Yeah. It's like we develop these bullets. You could shoot now I'm just, like sick. Let's go. Yeah. But.

01;49;49;23 - 01;49;50;01
Speaker 1
Up.

01;49;50;05 - 01;49;54;12
Speaker 2
And it's a big man. It's a big man who's head. What were a hand?

01;49;54;14 - 01;49;55;23
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;49;55;26 - 01;49;58;11
Speaker 2
Fighter demon.

01;49;58;13 - 01;49;59;12
Speaker 1
With skills like.

01;49;59;19 - 01;50;01;19
Speaker 2
That shoots a fucking laser. Yeah.

01;50;01;21 - 01;50;17;17
Speaker 3
You go out and it's, like, really bright outside, and you walk out and then like, it goes to a cutscene and this, like, the tar starts expanding and then this, like, tar covered head like, rises out of the ground and then like, kind of like drips off. And you get this like really like mutated like thing with like it's like slap in its face.

01;50;17;17 - 01;50;21;00
Speaker 3
It opens up and it's very, it's very disturbing, but it's cool.

01;50;21;03 - 01;50;21;26
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;50;21;29 - 01;50;34;00
Speaker 3
And this is where I think the bosses are going to shine is, I think, like these main big bets are, have maybe had more thought put into them. Whereas like the little ones are still like offshoots of the first one. Yeah.

01;50;34;02 - 01;50;36;09
Speaker 1
This was cool three times.

01;50;36;11 - 01;50;37;10
Speaker 3
Oh, shit. Really?

01;50;37;14 - 01;50;51;19
Speaker 1
Yeah. It has, it has a one hit kill move. Did it get. Oh with this. So if it gets close to you or like sucks you in close enough when it's doing its little. Oh right up eat you.

01;50;51;21 - 01;50;56;10
Speaker 2
Oh I feel like it almost did that to me. So I'm very glad that it did. Yeah.

01;50;56;10 - 01;50;59;20
Speaker 3
That the one time it the one that they're trying to.

01;50;59;20 - 01;51;00;21
Speaker 2
Fucking time its mouth.

01;51;00;21 - 01;51;15;08
Speaker 3
Opened. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was doing too. The one time, the one time it tried to do that to me, I was near like some, some building or like a piece of building. And so I like, kind of like, struggled my way around it and it just, like, kept me from going. So I never had to deal with that.

01;51;15;16 - 01;51;17;20
Speaker 3
Gotcha. But yeah, that's super.

01;51;17;20 - 01;51;19;01
Speaker 2
Cool around.

01;51;19;01 - 01;51;21;18
Speaker 3
By the way. Yeah. Pretty dynamic.

01;51;21;21 - 01;51;22;24
Speaker 2
Very quick.

01;51;22;26 - 01;51;30;23
Speaker 3
Feels like a real, real boss fight. Like it's very dynamic. But yeah. Grenades when its mouth is open. Gun. When it wasn't, I was like, yeah, I fucking I had.

01;51;30;23 - 01;51;32;06
Speaker 2
Some dude, Sam's come in.

01;51;32;06 - 01;51;38;23
Speaker 1
And I had, I had the mute Alessio, shut up and help me. Yes. Yeah.

01;51;38;25 - 01;51;41;18
Speaker 2
I love how much of a star I am in your story.

01;51;41;20 - 01;51;44;05
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's really couldn't have done it without you.

01;51;44;08 - 01;52;06;22
Speaker 2
Oh, one thing that got mentioned prior to the big BTE showing up actually, is, actually maybe not. Hold on. Maybe I'm confusing these two one second. No, I am confusing. So this is going to come now actually. So you. Yeah. Once you down this thing, it does the same thing that the, weird dolphin.

01;52;06;24 - 01;52;07;26
Speaker 1


01;52;07;28 - 01;52;13;12
Speaker 2
Creature did where it becomes gold and then becomes Liam. Yeah. Then you pick it all up.

01;52;13;18 - 01;52;15;00
Speaker 3
Pick up a lot of Kyra. Liam. Yeah.

01;52;15;00 - 01;52;19;25
Speaker 2
And then there's no cutscene to get you back. It's like, sorry, you're going to have to walk in real back up.

01;52;19;25 - 01;52;20;29
Speaker 3
It's like, fuck, man, come on.

01;52;20;29 - 01;52;24;12
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm going up that hill came on. No.

01;52;24;15 - 01;52;27;01
Speaker 1
If I only,

01;52;27;04 - 01;52;35;02
Speaker 2
But you get in here and Deadman kind of picks back up where he left off, but he's no longer in his lab coat. He's wearing, you know, his his zoot suit from the previous game.

01;52;35;05 - 01;52;36;16
Speaker 3
This got me by the.

01;52;36;18 - 01;52;37;24
Speaker 1
It's got me, too.

01;52;37;26 - 01;52;39;18
Speaker 2
Oh, oh. But the.

01;52;39;18 - 01;52;40;10
Speaker 3
Last, the last.

01;52;40;11 - 01;52;43;11
Speaker 2
Before he like before he drops a bomb about Lou.

01;52;43;14 - 01;52;44;03
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;52;44;05 - 01;52;53;26
Speaker 2
Which is that there was a baby 28. Yeah. And that baby was legitimately disposed of. Yeah. And there should not be a baby 28.

01;52;53;28 - 01;52;54;08
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;52;54;15 - 01;52;59;03
Speaker 2
So, Lou, technically is undocumented. Yeah.

01;52;59;05 - 01;53;04;22
Speaker 3
And which an undocumented child in Mexico. Interesting.

01;53;04;24 - 01;53;06;10
Speaker 1


01;53;06;13 - 01;53;12;26
Speaker 2
And dead man gives you the good news that, like, yo, like, you don't need to be on the run because, like, you see.

01;53;12;27 - 01;53;14;19
Speaker 3
They're not looking. They're not looking for you.

01;53;14;19 - 01;53;35;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. You to doesn't give a fuck. Which then you're like, well, wait a minute. There was a part of me that was like, did fragile fuckin like femme fatal noir? Yeah. Like, did she just trap my ass? But before you go, Dead man's like, hey, here's some gifts I want you to take back for Lou. I got her.

01;53;35;10 - 01;53;37;19
Speaker 3
All these little, like, Bebe pod lunchbox.

01;53;37;21 - 01;53;38;10
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;53;38;13 - 01;53;42;29
Speaker 2
You see, I got her these vaccines because we want to all all of us want her to live a healthy life.

01;53;42;29 - 01;53;43;14
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;53;43;17 - 01;53;52;28
Speaker 3
I can, I just say, like. Yeah, how refreshing it is to see, like, yeah. Hey, vaccines make children have long, healthy lives here, here. And like that.

01;53;53;01 - 01;53;53;23
Speaker 1
I like my notes.

01;53;53;24 - 01;53;57;07
Speaker 3
I was like I did too. I was like, when. Yeah, like.

01;53;57;09 - 01;53;59;27
Speaker 2
It's going to be like, oh my God, why? They got to make.

01;53;59;27 - 01;54;03;07
Speaker 1
It so fucking political little corner. Yeah.

01;54;03;09 - 01;54;11;06
Speaker 3
But it's like this like very point. Just like we want Lou to live a long and happy life. Take these vaccines to make sure that happen. Like, fuck yeah.

01;54;11;10 - 01;54;16;05
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, I have to make sure that Sam's not taking her to the fucking pediatrician every.

01;54;16;08 - 01;54;17;10
Speaker 1
Yeah, so she.

01;54;17;10 - 01;54;20;28
Speaker 3
Probably needs those vaccines. Yeah.

01;54;21;01 - 01;54;52;17
Speaker 2
But. Yeah. So then from there, Deadman begins to talk about how, he's been feeling, lately and tells us about how he's, like, submerged himself into this work. And he's gotten so excited because he discovered, the gate that we had been talking about prior. He had kind of mentioned that in the first half, but in the second half, he's kind of branching off of that and talking about how he himself, he has this new lease on life because he thought he would never have his own beach, that there would never be an afterlife because.

01;54;52;17 - 01;54;54;14
Speaker 3
He's an artificial who's made an artificial.

01;54;54;14 - 01;54;55;04
Speaker 2
Womb type.

01;54;55;04 - 01;54;57;02
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Which we knew from the first. I think we're.

01;54;57;02 - 01;54;59;29
Speaker 2
All, like, donated and stuff, too. Like, he's just like, Frank.

01;55;00;07 - 01;55;05;29
Speaker 3
He's like the Frankenstein. Which, by the way, hot take is 20, 25. You can call the monster Frankenstein. Everybody knows the.

01;55;05;29 - 01;55;07;10
Speaker 1
Fuck. What about now? Yes.

01;55;07;15 - 01;55;08;18
Speaker 3
It's okay.

01;55;08;21 - 01;55;09;06
Speaker 2
For me.

01;55;09;09 - 01;55;14;19
Speaker 3
You don't have to sign. You don't have to. You don't have to deal with people saying that to you anymore. Actually, the.

01;55;14;19 - 01;55;15;07
Speaker 2
Doctor.

01;55;15;07 - 01;55;16;13
Speaker 3
Frankenstein, Doctor.

01;55;16;13 - 01;55;20;06
Speaker 2
Frankenstein's monster child would still have his last name.

01;55;20;12 - 01;55;21;03
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

01;55;21;08 - 01;55;22;21
Speaker 3
So it's still Frankenstein? Yeah.

01;55;22;21 - 01;55;23;07
Speaker 2
So,

01;55;23;09 - 01;55;24;17
Speaker 3
Anyway, sorry, I don't know.

01;55;24;17 - 01;55;35;00
Speaker 2
You're all good. So anyway, Dead Man tells us all this stuff and tells us that, like, he actually did get to experience his own beach. And he reveals that he has developed Doom's.

01;55;35;03 - 01;55;39;14
Speaker 3
Which he didn't know. He's saying I didn't lie to you. I just didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01;55;39;17 - 01;55;43;03
Speaker 2
And then he has a very passionate speech about Hancock.

01;55;43;05 - 01;55;45;20
Speaker 1
Yeah. Love, like,

01;55;45;23 - 01;55;48;17
Speaker 2
And then he pretty much tells us that he is dying.

01;55;48;19 - 01;55;49;15
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;55;49;17 - 01;55;52;04
Speaker 2
And then he signs off.

01;55;52;06 - 01;55;56;18
Speaker 3
Yeah. He just, like, walks into his beach, into the water and just, like, goes, right?

01;55;56;18 - 01;55;59;09
Speaker 2
Yeah. And then Sam cries.

01;55;59;12 - 01;56;00;25
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;56;00;28 - 01;56;02;08
Speaker 1
I teared up, so.

01;56;02;10 - 01;56;05;22
Speaker 3
And so did the artist formerly known as Sam.

01;56;05;25 - 01;56;07;14
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;56;07;17 - 01;56;16;28
Speaker 2
And, and, so did Guillermo del Toro when he found out they were no longer going to be paying him royalties for people like game. No.

01;56;17;01 - 01;56;19;17
Speaker 1
But in the last we've seen of Dead Man.

01;56;19;20 - 01;56;20;19
Speaker 2
I, I'm sure I.

01;56;20;19 - 01;56;26;16
Speaker 3
Can't I back or something. There's either a flashback or like, Sam's going to be on a beach somewhere and he's going to see it's going to be like.

01;56;26;18 - 01;56;27;19
Speaker 2
Oh yeah.

01;56;27;22 - 01;56;30;19
Speaker 3
Like there's going to be like a yeah, it's Dumbledore or Jesus Christ.

01;56;30;19 - 01;56;44;22
Speaker 2
Game ends with Sam on the beach just contemplating his life at that point. Then, without breaking shot, a pair of feet walk into frame and an ass takes a seat in the sand next to Sam, and they look at each other and it's it's dead, man.

01;56;44;24 - 01;56;50;09
Speaker 3
It's like. It's like that scene from Kingdom Hearts where they're like, sitting on the dark beach and looking at the water together. It's like that.

01;56;50;13 - 01;56;54;19
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm calling it out now, so we'll see if that actually happens.

01;56;54;22 - 01;56;57;06
Speaker 3
Shot to the rafters.

01;56;57;08 - 01;57;04;28
Speaker 2
It's, Yeah, it's pretty crazy though, because, like, even when Sam's crying, seeing Dead man dip out, he's smiling.

01;57;05;00 - 01;57;05;10
Speaker 1
Now.

01;57;05;17 - 01;57;09;09
Speaker 2
Like, Sam is just like a very fuckin healthy. He's him.

01;57;09;16 - 01;57;27;02
Speaker 3
Yeah. He's smiling I which like which is, like, nice because it's like it is objectively. It is sad that his friend Dead Man has died, but like, it's like he died now knowing that, like he was a person and he did have his speech and this was what he was, he was trying to attain his entire life and like, trying to like the wondering.

01;57;27;02 - 01;57;42;13
Speaker 3
It's just like it's sad that he's gone. But there's a there is a happiness in knowing that he was happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he had done what he had wanted to do by by this point. So I like that vibe. I like that vibe in that way.

01;57;42;15 - 01;57;48;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. I also kind of got the vibes that fragile may have known that that's what was in store.

01;57;48;04 - 01;58;11;12
Speaker 3
For me, I wonder, I wonder if that's what it was like, because again, like when we get to the point later on in the chapter where you're going back and like all this stuff is going on with that, like you mentioned, I was like, did did I get trapped? Like, no, I think she just knew that Deadman was dying and like, was trying to manufacture a way to convince Sam to get there, to see see him or to, like, figure it out and like, get, get that access.

01;58;11;15 - 01;58;22;14
Speaker 2
Well, but then she says some sketchy shit because I just saw her say this to where she's like, you must miss Lou really badly, don't you? And like the way it's phrased. Seems kind of weird.

01;58;22;17 - 01;58;23;23
Speaker 1
Yes.

01;58;23;25 - 01;58;38;05
Speaker 3
But then like, but and we might, like get some additional context, but then like the scenes about, like what happened, very much missed like, betrays the fact that she's, like, trying her fucking best. So it's like, I don't know, I don't know what's going on with fragile.

01;58;38;11 - 01;58;39;28
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, she is.

01;58;39;28 - 01;58;42;12
Speaker 2
And yet she's also acting like a fucking robot.

01;58;42;12 - 01;58;46;04
Speaker 1
So it's like,

01;58;46;07 - 01;58;57;12
Speaker 2
It's very funny. I feel like a lot of the. It's like, I know Sam has doom's and this history and all this other stuff, so he doesn't like to be touched. But I can't worry if I mentioned this to you or not, Lily. But I was like, this is part of it. It's like.

01;58;57;15 - 01;58;59;25
Speaker 1
Is this just Japanese.

01;58;59;28 - 01;59;31;13
Speaker 2
Culture bleeding into this game where it's like, well, we don't like to affectionately touch one another in public, so Sam doesn't want to be touched. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. There's just some there's some strange if if these characters were true, outlandish, absurdly dramatic reactionaries, the way that Western people are, I just feel like the emotions coming up would be tremendously excised in a way that they are not.

01;59;31;20 - 01;59;33;13
Speaker 1
That's true.

01;59;33;15 - 01;59;39;08
Speaker 2
So I don't know, I, I'm wondering if it's like a culture difference. That's. Yeah, it's like it's that Silent Hill.

01;59;39;10 - 01;59;53;01
Speaker 3
That's what I think it is. You and I mentioned this to you. Like, I had a theory for a while. Like some of the reactions to like, the loose stuff were very like stilted. And my, my wonder is like, this is maybe just how Japanese people deal with.

01;59;53;01 - 01;59;53;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01;59;53;28 - 01;59;55;01
Speaker 3
That kind of grief.

01;59;55;01 - 01;59;57;11
Speaker 2
And that's interesting to see. Like an American actor.

01;59;57;11 - 02;00;03;05
Speaker 3
Yeah, we're dealing with it that way. And it's just like it's I've that's probably why it's just very weird.

02;00;03;10 - 02;00;12;21
Speaker 2
Yeah. And if we're being insensitive dickheads, please let us know. Yeah, absolutely. Fuck off. I actually, a lot of Japanese friends. I have kissed me on the mouth every time I say hello.

02;00;12;24 - 02;00;13;26
Speaker 1


02;00;13;29 - 02;00;16;06
Speaker 2
That's fine. Like, I'm definitely speaking from a generality.

02;00;16;06 - 02;00;18;20
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

02;00;18;23 - 02;00;23;17
Speaker 3
One thing I do want to mention here about fragile, I just thought about it, and Chad's been asking this and the.

02;00;23;17 - 02;00;27;27
Speaker 2
Please don't tell me that she's fragile, but not that fragile on the screen.

02;00;27;29 - 02;00;49;12
Speaker 3
No, my, I the thing that I want to know about her is that, like, if she is fragile, that. No. I don't know if y'all noticed this, but in Death Stranding one, there is that scene where hags, like, threw her into the time fall. Yeah, her body got old. Her body is not old anymore. She's, like wearing a tank.

02;00;49;12 - 02;00;55;24
Speaker 3
Top of the is youthful now. So I'm wondering what the fuck's going on with that. If that means anything.

02;00;55;27 - 02;01;00;13
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's sketchy. Yeah, because the whole reason why she wore that full body suit in the first was.

02;01;00;13 - 02;01;12;23
Speaker 3
Because her body was whole, like, her face was fine, but her body was old. And now it's like you, she's wearing the tank top in the think tank, but like, her palms are like she is youthful again. So I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it too. And it's just like.

02;01;12;26 - 02;01;18;21
Speaker 2
Is she not fragile? That fragile die between games and they subbed her out. Is this like if she.

02;01;18;22 - 02;01;21;14
Speaker 3
Was that fragile? Oh, God.

02;01;21;16 - 02;01;22;21
Speaker 2
I'll with her new thing.

02;01;22;24 - 02;01;23;16
Speaker 1
Well.

02;01;23;18 - 02;01;28;19
Speaker 3
Here's the thing. And then the thing that, like, it makes me wonder is like, are they're too fragile.

02;01;28;22 - 02;01;32;04
Speaker 1
Oh, interesting.

02;01;32;06 - 02;01;35;29
Speaker 3
That's why one of them is, like, really robotic. And the other one is, like, normal.

02;01;36;02 - 02;01;42;07
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Interesting. This is what I love about the fact that we're only playing the sections that we're covering.

02;01;42;09 - 02;01;42;21
Speaker 3
Yeah.

02;01;42;28 - 02;01;47;19
Speaker 2
Because like, this is all legitimate speculation, like we're not. And it's all.

02;01;47;19 - 02;01;53;15
Speaker 3
Stuff. It's all stuff we can roll back to it later. So it's like, I don't know. That's just what I'm wondering. So yeah.

02;01;53;15 - 02;02;02;05
Speaker 2
I think that's crazy. Call it it right now. Baby Lou is actually fragile from the past. No, he can't.

02;02;02;08 - 02;02;03;13
Speaker 3
No I don't.

02;02;03;13 - 02;02;04;04
Speaker 1
Well.

02;02;04;07 - 02;02;09;12
Speaker 2
We ride these fucking water. These these raindrops. Can we go back into life?

02;02;09;14 - 02;02;17;16
Speaker 3
I'd like to remind you that at some point, Sam and Fragile do make out. So I kind of don't like that.

02;02;17;23 - 02;02;18;28
Speaker 2
Oh. That's right.

02;02;19;00 - 02;02;20;22
Speaker 3
Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah.

02;02;20;24 - 02;02;22;13
Speaker 1


02;02;22;15 - 02;02;26;00
Speaker 2
All right. Well, anyway. So moving on.

02;02;26;02 - 02;02;26;20
Speaker 1
That.

02;02;26;22 - 02;02;34;13
Speaker 2
We have we have to go home. Yeah. Because our job is done. Literally Sam's entire job that we were being asked to do at the beginning, and they.

02;02;34;13 - 02;02;40;06
Speaker 1
Say it in like an insane way. They're like, all right, you connected all of Mexico. You go to all that.

02;02;40;06 - 02;02;58;10
Speaker 3
That was all of Mexico is like what? I see more of Mexico on the map. Like, I get there's a tar about tar about to the south of it, but that's just that one section. There's like six more sections of Mexico to do. No, sorry. You got all of Mexico, Sam. What the. What are you talking about?

02;02;58;12 - 02;03;03;24
Speaker 2
I'm going to start calling the Bible belt. The tar belt, the tar about it because.

02;03;03;27 - 02;03;08;20
Speaker 3
Because if you don't get out fast, you're going to get stuck there and,

02;03;08;22 - 02;03;10;16
Speaker 2
If you're like, round here, you're.

02;03;10;16 - 02;03;10;28
Speaker 1
Going to get.

02;03;10;28 - 02;03;13;03
Speaker 2
Tarred and feathered.

02;03;13;05 - 02;03;23;14
Speaker 1
I do like that, when they send you home. I don't know if this was your experience, but I realized I was like, oh, I've, like, done a full circle. Like, my route home was different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02;03;23;14 - 02;03;31;12
Speaker 2
That's. So that's what I was going to say was I didn't go back through the mountains because I was like, fuck that shit. Yeah. And they also give you like a little.

02;03;31;14 - 02;03;33;06
Speaker 3
Yeah, I took a little tricycle.

02;03;33;09 - 02;03;37;01
Speaker 1
I love your little mystery.

02;03;37;01 - 02;03;43;00
Speaker 3
Like, sits. He like, sits down and he's like, I'm sitting down in my chair and my boxes are behind me. It's like, oh.

02;03;43;02 - 02;03;44;25
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's you can pick shit up without.

02;03;44;25 - 02;03;45;10
Speaker 2
Getting out.

02;03;45;10 - 02;03;47;06
Speaker 1
Of it. That was the best. That was the best.

02;03;47;06 - 02;03;49;17
Speaker 3
Haul of fucking little. Yeah, that fucking rolls.

02;03;49;17 - 02;03;52;13
Speaker 2
And you get like a sick little fucking pause button.

02;03;52;16 - 02;03;53;19
Speaker 1
Yep.

02;03;53;22 - 02;03;56;17
Speaker 3
You can drifts. You can fucking drift it.

02;03;56;20 - 02;03;59;21
Speaker 2
It's pretty tight. You can see all the colors.

02;03;59;23 - 02;04;00;26
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;04;00;29 - 02;04;05;01
Speaker 3
Video games are so cool.

02;04;05;03 - 02;04;23;04
Speaker 2
Okay. Yeah. So this is the point, by the way, because, like, I was going down and I was like, fuck the mountain. I'm going to go this way. And I was going through that little, like, sort of, Fertile Crescent, if you will. Sure. And, there was a stretch where there was no batteries, and I was your boy was getting dangerously low.

02;04;23;08 - 02;04;38;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. And I was like, I'm not about to death stranding one this shit and just ditch the whip and huff it. And so I was like, do I help out all of my friends and just build fucking batteries across the land? And.

02;04;38;07 - 02;04;40;16
Speaker 3
And that's when you're like, no, I must go.

02;04;40;18 - 02;04;45;28
Speaker 2
No, no, no, that's when I was eyeballing it. And I was like, no, I actually, I think I can get there before my battery did.

02;04;45;29 - 02;04;50;24
Speaker 3
Yeah, I have the same thought. And I was like, I barely made it, but I did make it. I was like, fuck yeah.

02;04;50;26 - 02;04;54;28
Speaker 2
Yeah. I was like, I don't even know if I have enough resources to make one generator.

02;04;55;00 - 02;04;56;09
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;04;56;12 - 02;05;04;20
Speaker 2
But anyway, it's pretty sick. It's really cool. The map opens up, as you're driving, like, the faster you're going, the wider the screenshot is.

02;05;04;20 - 02;05;19;25
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. And you can loot and you can literally you can legitimately like it may not look like it, but if you're create, you can legitimately get all the way back to the hideout on that thing without having it. Oh, really? Yeah, I made it all the way back. Like, you can, like, go around some mountains and stuff and like, if you're.

02;05;19;25 - 02;05;23;05
Speaker 2
Hitting, like, the batteries or just in general.

02;05;23;07 - 02;05;27;28
Speaker 3
I mean, I was hitting all the batteries that I could see, and like, I was just like, yeah, you can, you can make it all mean.

02;05;27;28 - 02;05;33;02
Speaker 2
Or is it also the blue back to the green that depletes.

02;05;33;04 - 02;05;33;12
Speaker 3
That.

02;05;33;12 - 02;05;34;05
Speaker 2
Battery so much.

02;05;34;11 - 02;05;41;09
Speaker 1
Oh no, the blue back to the green. So the way that the batteries work, I don't think it did this in the first one, but they overcharge the batteries for like 100.

02;05;41;11 - 02;05;46;01
Speaker 3
Yeah. When you get to the generators, you get a it's like you see a little note that says the battery.

02;05;46;01 - 02;05;46;28
Speaker 2
It was that little.

02;05;47;01 - 02;05;47;29
Speaker 1
I love that at first.

02;05;48;00 - 02;05;49;15
Speaker 2
I was like, oh no.

02;05;49;17 - 02;05;55;25
Speaker 3
There's a little message when you get to the generators. It says like the battery has been overcharged to 130%. And it's like, okay, fuck yeah.

02;05;55;25 - 02;05;57;25
Speaker 1
Let's go it. I guess it's like,

02;05;57;28 - 02;06;03;02
Speaker 3
But yeah, if you if you're creative about like how you get around the terrain, you can get all the way back to the base without, without ditching it.

02;06;03;09 - 02;06;05;17
Speaker 2
Got it. Okay.

02;06;05;19 - 02;06;12;02
Speaker 3
But there is a point. There's a point when you get back to where that original bandit camp is, or pretty close to it.

02;06;12;02 - 02;06;12;29
Speaker 2
Yeah.

02;06;13;01 - 02;06;21;11
Speaker 3
You got a cut scene and the switch, which I mentioned last week, I was like, actually, fuck this. And I just went around that.

02;06;21;12 - 02;06;23;02
Speaker 2
The same thing. Yeah.

02;06;23;04 - 02;06;31;21
Speaker 3
And it's like, but like this cut scene plays in these like robotic ninja things just like appear. They're like red. It's like it's a band.

02;06;31;23 - 02;06;38;09
Speaker 2
If a band head was removed and replaced with a robot head and then the band, it was real tall and red.

02;06;38;12 - 02;06;39;21
Speaker 1


02;06;39;23 - 02;06;45;21
Speaker 3
It was like, what the fuck is this? And like, and like, I would, I was like, I don't, I don't have the band with.

02;06;45;23 - 02;06;46;10
Speaker 2
The robot.

02;06;46;10 - 02;06;49;22
Speaker 3
Dogs. Yeah, that's like a little like they make like, robots, like dog sounds.

02;06;49;22 - 02;06;52;00
Speaker 1
It's very weird.

02;06;52;03 - 02;07;10;22
Speaker 3
I was like, I don't have the bandwidth for this right now. I gotta go. And I went around, but I didn't see them. I didn't see where they were. Oh, interesting. So I didn't see them at all. I just saw them in the cutscene and then they were just like, oh, I just went around. I went like up a ridge and then through the, through the border gate and just a way I went and I just never had.

02;07;10;22 - 02;07;11;13
Speaker 3
Oh.

02;07;11;20 - 02;07;12;04
Speaker 2
Gotcha.

02;07;12;04 - 02;07;17;12
Speaker 1
I don't know, looking at this, I straight up didn't get this. Got really. Yeah.

02;07;17;14 - 02;07;23;14
Speaker 2
I oh my God, I can pop a fucking wheelie on the scooter. Yeah. Just one. Yeah I do the fucking rolls.

02;07;23;16 - 02;07;28;15
Speaker 1
Holy shit. Yeah, I didn't go I didn't go through the whole area to get back. Wait, wait.

02;07;28;15 - 02;07;28;29
Speaker 2
So you didn't get.

02;07;29;00 - 02;07;30;05
Speaker 3
The way you just said.

02;07;30;07 - 02;07;31;03
Speaker 2
Oh.

02;07;31;05 - 02;07;38;25
Speaker 1
No. Yeah. This. I've never heard what it looks like blacked out when this happened. Like, I was maybe like, do.

02;07;38;25 - 02;07;39;19
Speaker 2
That's crazy.

02;07;39;23 - 02;07;40;29
Speaker 3
And I think I know.

02;07;40;29 - 02;07;42;17
Speaker 1
Like for the first time.

02;07;42;20 - 02;07;47;01
Speaker 3
From the I'm not going to say what it is for your, for y'all's benefit.

02;07;47;04 - 02;07;48;29
Speaker 2
I mean, I think I know who the weird ninjas.

02;07;49;02 - 02;07;55;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like, I know where they're from, what I've seen, like, I think we know who they're associated with and where they're coming from. I think.

02;07;55;21 - 02;07;59;04
Speaker 2
I know who the actual.

02;07;59;06 - 02;07;59;24
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah.

02;07;59;28 - 02;08;14;07
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, a a cyborg ninja does show up and just start killing these things. And. Yeah, if you just look at how he's dressed and you've seen any trailer. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear who that is, but maybe it's a misdirect.

02;08;14;09 - 02;08;16;16
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit.

02;08;16;23 - 02;08;17;28
Speaker 2
But, yeah, it might be Higgs.

02;08;18;05 - 02;08;22;22
Speaker 3
Wait wait wait wait. Time out, time out, time out. So I'm talking about the robots.

02;08;22;22 - 02;08;25;19
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, I was talking about the ninja afterwards.

02;08;25;21 - 02;08;31;14
Speaker 3
I didn't see a ninja afterwards. I didn't know I. I went around them, so I didn't see the fucking ninja. I didn't see them at all.

02;08;31;14 - 02;08;34;12
Speaker 1
So I, I guess I.

02;08;34;18 - 02;08;41;09
Speaker 2
I guess it's because I snuck like I did sneak, but I snuck like through. But. Yeah. So straight up. Yeah.

02;08;41;16 - 02;08;45;14
Speaker 3
I have no idea who the fuck this ninja you're talking about. What the fuck, dude?

02;08;45;15 - 02;08;46;09
Speaker 2
So as I.

02;08;46;09 - 02;08;50;00
Speaker 3
I missed out on some shit. Oh, as you pass through.

02;08;50;07 - 02;09;16;02
Speaker 2
So I guess we've explained the robots for James and he just saw it as you pass through the underpass. I guess because I had skipped the underpass mostly on my way in. There was a part of me that was like, oh, I want to see what I missed. Kind of a thing. So anyway, on my way back through, as soon as you get over the through the underpass, Lily, when you were coming in for the first time, you went through that area with all the traffic, right?

02;09;16;02 - 02;09;45;05
Speaker 2
With all the, like, rid of gridlock of cars. So on the way back, there's a cut scene. And this dude that looks like cyborg ninja essentially covered face everything like a red cyberpunk that just pops up, pulls a katana out and just kills ten robots, like, And then looks at Sam, pulls the katana close to it. Its face is like rearing up, like you're about to get fucking slashed with a katana.

02;09;45;07 - 02;10;02;04
Speaker 2
And then just pops it back in the holster and then like, swipes and the swipe creates sand and just vanishes. And then and then and then Sam says, this is what I was referring to earlier today. Sam just goes, what's up with that ninja guy?

02;10;02;06 - 02;10;03;23
Speaker 1
And then just locks?

02;10;03;26 - 02;10;08;03
Speaker 3
No idea. Oh my God, that's crazy. Yeah.

02;10;08;03 - 02;10;09;15
Speaker 1
That's great. Is up with the tree.

02;10;09;16 - 02;10;18;25
Speaker 2
Is this. So like we got we got somebody missed the dolphin. Then we got somebody missing all the robots. We got somebody missing the ninja.

02;10;18;27 - 02;10;39;20
Speaker 3
That's wild. Man, there is a point as you're tracking, and this is why I went around them. Because, like, my fucking like like mama bear alert went off. But, like, after, at a certain point, it's like danger you're in. Cameron is being attacked. Oh, is that mean? I was like, oh, it's home. Yeah. So I'm booking it.

02;10;39;20 - 02;10;50;12
Speaker 3
And that's when. And then that's why I was like, fuck these robots. I'll deal. I'm sure they'll be recurring. And they feel like the skulls, like they'll be back later. And so I just kept going.

02;10;50;15 - 02;11;11;09
Speaker 1
I didn't trigger either of those cutscenes, I guess, like where the, overpass and, like, that border checkpoint are. If you go, like, a ways down from it, the river gets narrow enough that you can cross it by jumping the bike. And then there's a hole in the fence. And so I just went all the way down there and, and just, like, bypassed all of this.

02;11;11;09 - 02;11;12;17
Speaker 1
That's crazy.

02;11;12;19 - 02;11;14;29
Speaker 3
Yeah. Shit, man.

02;11;14;29 - 02;11;40;15
Speaker 2
That's crazy. That's so. Okay, we'll go back to, what we were saying earlier, which is the level of confidence in your player is unprecedented. Like, okay, hold on. I just want to put this into perspective. Hideo Kojima Hideo motherfucking Kojima is okay with you skipping.

02;11;40;20 - 02;11;41;02
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;11;41;04 - 02;11;43;28
Speaker 2
Three major cutscenes.

02;11;44;02 - 02;11;44;29
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

02;11;44;29 - 02;11;57;21
Speaker 3
No, it doesn't. It doesn't feel right. It feels like. Like it feels like something has happened in his brain chemistry that's, like, changed his heart. Like the fucking Grinch shit. Like his heart grew three sizes or something.

02;11;57;21 - 02;11;58;22
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's crazy.

02;11;58;22 - 02;12;17;15
Speaker 3
That is wild. Because I do love it too. It's just like like we all experience different stages of that where James didn't experience any of it. Yeah, I saw the robots, but then engage in Alessio saw all of them and the fucking ninja. Yeah, like that's crazy that we can have. And I also love that I can create these like tiered experiences too.

02;12;17;16 - 02;12;31;19
Speaker 3
Well, this is now incredibly interesting. Yeah. Where now it's just like, I could be in chapter fucking eight and like, do this crazy thing and like, one of you is not even like, seen as, like, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I like that a lot.

02;12;31;21 - 02;12;56;22
Speaker 2
I will say. So if you try to stealth kill these robots, which I tried with one of them, whenever you throw them on the ground, they literally get right back up. Oh, you get like a second that you can run. So anyway, I had my second, I ran, he gets back up, I had the little charge pistol and I hit it once in the head and he was dazed, but I noticed he was not stopping.

02;12;56;24 - 02;12;58;06
Speaker 2
And so I was like, oh.

02;12;58;09 - 02;12;59;17
Speaker 3
It's like fucking Terminator.

02;12;59;17 - 02;13;18;24
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I did one more charge and just hit it and it finally, like, pop the head, like blew the house, okay? And I was like, oh, thank God. And so yeah, if you do encounter them and you choose to engage, just like be ready for them to be total pieces of shit. That's crazy. Yeah. The that's crazy.

02;13;18;24 - 02;13;28;25
Speaker 2
I did not realize that any of that. It felt like the environment was kind of funneling me. Yeah. So that's why I was sort of like, oh, this must be a thing.

02;13;28;27 - 02;13;38;05
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Whereas I also felt funneled by it and I was like, so I'm going to try to go around. I love them to go there. And I don't want.

02;13;38;08 - 02;13;59;17
Speaker 2
This cyborg ninja. Looks like, if, Isaac Clarke from death from Dead Space. Oh, dude was a cyborg ninja. It's like what it looks like to a t. But yeah. Yeah, because these robots, essentially, they surround him and they shoot him, and he falls to the ground as if he's dead. And then when the robots get closer, he just springs up and.

02;13;59;23 - 02;14;00;13
Speaker 3
Sacks them out.

02;14;00;13 - 02;14;01;29
Speaker 2
And six of them. It's fun.

02;14;02;02 - 02;14;17;26
Speaker 3
Yeah, I love I love a good. This is going to sound psychopathic. Love a good massacre. See him in fucking the fucking ninja hallway. Vamp. The vamp cuts in to that like there's a lot like he does those really well. Yeah, and sets up the tension of those very well.

02;14;17;28 - 02;14;23;21
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's really good. But anyway. So yeah, when you get past this guy who does have an Odenkirk for a head.

02;14;23;24 - 02;14;26;11
Speaker 1
Just justify wow, that's cool.

02;14;26;11 - 02;14;27;26
Speaker 2
Or like on his face I guess.

02;14;27;26 - 02;14;29;00
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah.

02;14;29;03 - 02;14;39;11
Speaker 2
So it's the, it's the, the return of the Odenkirk, and so anyway, he he's in San fucking pockets. And, the.

02;14;39;12 - 02;14;41;14
Speaker 1
Way I.

02;14;41;17 - 02;14;42;18
Speaker 3
R.I.P..

02;14;42;21 - 02;14;53;10
Speaker 2
Oh, okay. So what Sam says is. Hold on. He says, oh, he doesn't say, what's the deal with the ninja guy? I'm sorry. He goes, what was his deal?

02;14;53;13 - 02;14;54;07
Speaker 1
It's even better.

02;14;54;09 - 02;14;58;02
Speaker 2
It's like the most fucking Reeves line I've ever heard.

02;14;58;05 - 02;15;06;10
Speaker 3
It's like it's very much like two. It's like we talk about these parallels to Metal Gear two. It's very like Solid Snake nonplused. Yeah, yeah, that everything lives. Yeah.

02;15;06;10 - 02;15;09;27
Speaker 2
Okay. I'm sorry. You can go in reverse while doing the wheelie.

02;15;09;29 - 02;15;11;21
Speaker 1
Fuck yeah.

02;15;11;23 - 02;15;27;22
Speaker 2
He just did reverse wheelie through traffic. He, like shift in reverse wheelie going through turn. Okay anyway. But, But yeah. So then as you get closer to your home away from home, some bad shit.

02;15;27;22 - 02;15;38;00
Speaker 1
Happens. But I put in the discord. Just a picture of my favorite line from this section relative to your scene on screen at the time of it.

02;15;38;03 - 02;15;41;05
Speaker 3
Yeah. Nobody's home. Maybe outside.

02;15;41;07 - 02;15;47;24
Speaker 1
Like like. Brother, do you see your house right now? Yeah. Yeah. Like that. So the two ransacked completely.

02;15;47;24 - 02;15;50;25
Speaker 3
The alarms are going off like it's. Yeah.

02;15;50;27 - 02;15;58;22
Speaker 2
It's so fucking weird to me, dude, because, like, yeah, you get down there and like, Sam says nothing.

02;15;58;25 - 02;15;59;14
Speaker 1
Like he.

02;15;59;15 - 02;16;04;21
Speaker 2
Is more. He's more emotive. When you click the touch pad and he goes.

02;16;04;23 - 02;16;08;17
Speaker 1
He's gonna do. He's more emotive.

02;16;08;17 - 02;16;13;05
Speaker 2
Than then in seeing the home of his child.

02;16;13;07 - 02;16;13;24
Speaker 1


02;16;13;24 - 02;16;17;20
Speaker 2
Look like a fucking Western shootout happened.

02;16;17;24 - 02;16;20;05
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;16;20;07 - 02;16;31;06
Speaker 2
So anyway, long story short, you come home. Home has been ransacked and it looks shot up. You can't find anyone anywhere. Yeah. And then you do.

02;16;31;06 - 02;16;32;07
Speaker 3
Maybe outside.

02;16;32;09 - 02;16;33;11
Speaker 2
Yeah, maybe. Maybe I.

02;16;33;14 - 02;16;35;24
Speaker 1
Can you go.

02;16;35;24 - 02;16;41;23
Speaker 2
Back outside and you kind of like, Assassin's Creed slash Witcher three?

02;16;41;23 - 02;16;44;10
Speaker 1
Yeah. Like, or.

02;16;44;13 - 02;16;55;16
Speaker 2
Ghost of Tsushima where you're like, oh, there's some footprints. Let me scan them. And then false footprints. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But they lead you to a little clearing in the mud.

02;16;55;19 - 02;17;06;06
Speaker 1
Where you can like the footprints for, Sam. Good. Thanks.

02;17;06;08 - 02;17;09;13
Speaker 3
Like, nothing to stop the mechanics from shining, and.

02;17;09;15 - 02;17;12;19
Speaker 2
Yeah, that is very good. I feel like that was an active decision.

02;17;12;21 - 02;17;14;16
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;17;14;18 - 02;17;19;07
Speaker 3
But if you come across this clearing and fragile, it's just laying there, like, half dead, and there's no.

02;17;19;07 - 02;17;20;29
Speaker 2
Child anywhere or child.

02;17;21;01 - 02;17;21;14
Speaker 1
In sight.

02;17;21;20 - 02;17;22;23
Speaker 3
And at this point, I'm just like.

02;17;22;23 - 02;17;23;24
Speaker 2
A cycle, though.

02;17;23;26 - 02;17;27;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. At this point, I'm like, I'm going to crash out.

02;17;27;24 - 02;17;29;01
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. This one, like.

02;17;29;01 - 02;17;30;01
Speaker 3
Someone stole the.

02;17;30;08 - 02;17;33;04
Speaker 2
Child. So the fact is like as.

02;17;33;04 - 02;17;35;18
Speaker 3
Oh no, Alessio, nobody stole your child.

02;17;35;22 - 02;17;44;28
Speaker 2
No. As as I'm approaching, I am thinking to myself, if this were me, I would be fucking scary.

02;17;44;28 - 02;17;45;27
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

02;17;45;27 - 02;18;01;26
Speaker 2
I'd be like, where is she? I'd be like, slapping fragile awake. I'd be like, where the fuck is my baby? Like, yeah. And that's what, like I texted Lily and I was like, there is no way in hell that I would be even a fraction of this. Yeah.

02;18;01;29 - 02;18;07;24
Speaker 3
You know, just like like, yeah, the he is 1/100, I think is what you said of the calm that you would be, which is loud.

02;18;07;25 - 02;18;12;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. He's like fucking. Are you from Shenmue asking about sailors. And I'm like.

02;18;12;24 - 02;18;15;07
Speaker 3
Have you seen, have you seen my baby?

02;18;15;10 - 02;18;15;20
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;18;15;20 - 02;18;22;26
Speaker 3
It's crazy. Anyway, so yeah, he like he like rouses her and she looks fucked up. She's got like tar all over her and she's got like she's like fucking bloody and stuff like that.

02;18;22;28 - 02;18;24;26
Speaker 1
She looks like,

02;18;24;29 - 02;18;30;07
Speaker 3
She is like me like, not good. Let's, let's not sure this looks fucked up like some people.

02;18;30;09 - 02;18;32;18
Speaker 2
People think the tooth gap is attractive.

02;18;32;20 - 02;18;42;25
Speaker 3
That's not what I mean. But. Yeah. So. And she's just like, I tried and she, like, explains what happens and you get a cutscene of, like, somebody shows up.

02;18;42;25 - 02;18;44;22
Speaker 1
Yeah, a place goes over.

02;18;44;22 - 02;18;56;13
Speaker 2
Her explanation was like, maybe not 1/100, but like one tenth. Yeah. Of the level of fucking panic that. Yeah, I think it was called for.

02;18;56;15 - 02;18;58;16
Speaker 1
Right.

02;18;58;18 - 02;19;16;18
Speaker 3
But she like, somebody shows up. She's like trying to sneak out, but they're coming down the stairs. She like, does like a loop around and, like, takes a service elevator up and like, gets out and she's trying to escape. And I think she gets on the unicycle. Right. And then they, like, shoot her, and the unicycle crashes, and she's, like, holding on to lose.

02;19;16;18 - 02;19;17;09
Speaker 3
They're tumbling.

02;19;17;09 - 02;19;18;02
Speaker 2
Really cool. Blue.

02;19;18;03 - 02;19;22;04
Speaker 1
Is there an entire V on this one? I agree,

02;19;22;07 - 02;19;41;20
Speaker 3
Lou is crying her face out and these people are approaching and she's in the background explaining, and this is why I'm just like, what the fuck is up with fragile? Because she's like, I try to jump us away, but I couldn't I couldn't jump with Lou because I can only jump with equipment and I could never see her as that.

02;19;41;22 - 02;19;48;12
Speaker 3
Oh. What's that? That's what she says. Yeah, yeah, I could, I could never see her as equipment. So I couldn't jump with Lou because she's not.

02;19;48;14 - 02;19;50;04
Speaker 1
Like an equipment. Well.

02;19;50;04 - 02;20;02;22
Speaker 2
Oh, because it's her perception of what's equipment that could do the job. Okay. In my head, for some reason, I remembered her as saying I could only jump with my equipment. I couldn't take her. No, I think yeah, well, that.

02;20;02;22 - 02;20;05;10
Speaker 3
Makes her sees Lou as a person, not equipment.

02;20;05;10 - 02;20;18;06
Speaker 1
So. Well, and I think it's like a like my this is my opinion obviously, but like I think it's a little deeper than like her perceiving it. And I think it has to do with what Deadman just revealed to us and that, well, Lou might not be equipment in the way.

02;20;18;06 - 02;20;25;09
Speaker 3
Yeah, but she was. She was never about having a baby to begin with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Good. That's good. Call me.

02;20;25;09 - 02;20;29;26
Speaker 1
Interesting. Which can explain like why when they let Lou out of the, like.

02;20;29;29 - 02;20;40;23
Speaker 2
Chases or finally someone let Lou out of her cage.

02;20;40;25 - 02;20;41;12
Speaker 1


02;20;41;12 - 02;20;45;10
Speaker 3
Time falls. Time fall for me is nothing. Guess what? Oh, no.

02;20;45;11 - 02;20;49;15
Speaker 1
It's.

02;20;49;18 - 02;21;04;02
Speaker 3
Wow. But. Yeah. So so so she says that, And then fragile is like, my what I tried to do was, I will just try and jump Lou by herself. So, I was like.

02;21;04;08 - 02;21;06;26
Speaker 2
I was like, that must be why Lou's not here.

02;21;06;29 - 02;21;17;13
Speaker 3
Yeah. Must be. And so what ends up happening is that she's got her forehead against Lou, and she's trying to send Lou and then this. And are they wearing red? Am I missing? Yeah, they look.

02;21;17;14 - 02;21;22;04
Speaker 2
Like red robes. Like it reminds me of, like the Emperor's guard from Star Wars. Yeah.

02;21;22;06 - 02;21;24;26
Speaker 3
Well, it reminds me of the fucking robots.

02;21;24;28 - 02;21;27;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. That too. It's the same, like crimson color.

02;21;27;04 - 02;21;33;26
Speaker 3
Yeah. But she's, like, doing this, and then somebody walks up behind her and aims a gun and just shoots and.

02;21;33;27 - 02;21;44;00
Speaker 2
Well, and based on what I was saying earlier, I don't think it could be our prior villain because I think the fucking ninja might be our prior villain.

02;21;44;03 - 02;21;46;28
Speaker 3
Yeah, I don't, because.

02;21;46;28 - 02;21;52;26
Speaker 2
Now I'm wondering because the ninja, it looks like he's wearing exactly what Higgs was wearing in the trailer.

02;21;52;29 - 02;22;00;10
Speaker 1
Yeah, I haven't seen the trailer. And I will say since I didn't. Oh, just seen I assumed that it was Higgs shooting her.

02;22;00;10 - 02;22;28;22
Speaker 3
I am actually, I am actually remembering now the very first trailer. There was a scene where Sam was in a room with Higgs, and the ninja shows up. So they're two different entities. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure, but again. But, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is not, like, like flying forward.

02;22;28;23 - 02;22;30;11
Speaker 3
This is from, like, trailers that we saw.

02;22;30;11 - 02;22;30;27
Speaker 2
Yeah.

02;22;31;00 - 02;22;31;17
Speaker 3
Months ago.

02;22;31;17 - 02;22;33;24
Speaker 2
We can't put spoiler tags on speculation.

02;22;34;02 - 02;22;44;13
Speaker 3
Yeah, exactly. And so. But anyway, so like Gunn cut to black and then it cuts to, like, fragile waking up and you see Lou in the distance.

02;22;44;13 - 02;22;45;25
Speaker 2
Oh my God.

02;22;45;28 - 02;23;04;25
Speaker 3
I was sobbing because you can kind of, you can kind of see her wiggling a little bit. And then she goes, yeah. And then after a little bit she just motionless. And I was fucking like, I'm feel like I might like get there now. But like she was, I was just like, and this is what, this is what?

02;23;04;25 - 02;23;28;10
Speaker 3
So this is what I mean by Poker Face is like, last week, you were just like, I hope it's not a fake out and that blah, blah, blah. And I had beaten chapter two by that point. Yeah. And so I was sitting there like, if you, if you, if you're on the Patreon and you watch the video of the last, last episode, as soon as Alessio says, it says that you can see me look down at my phone to distract myself from what he's saying, because I do not want to make a face.

02;23;28;10 - 02;23;29;14
Speaker 3
It's just like.

02;23;29;16 - 02;23;31;00
Speaker 1
Oh.

02;23;31;03 - 02;23;40;02
Speaker 3
But yeah, fucking brutal. And then it cuts back and obviously Louis gone. So I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck is happening? Yeah.

02;23;40;02 - 02;23;54;16
Speaker 2
I'm you go and it's it's weird. Maybe I'm in denial. Just because I love Lou. But like, when that happened, I was like, there's no way she's dead. Like there's no fucking way.

02;23;54;16 - 02;23;56;21
Speaker 3
Like, yeah.

02;23;56;23 - 02;24;08;08
Speaker 2
And the game also doesn't seem to think she is either. Like, the game doesn't seem like the music doesn't hit a crescendo. Sam doesn't get angry, like, I don't know, there's just this weird call.

02;24;08;08 - 02;24;09;29
Speaker 3
Really? Yeah. It's very.

02;24;09;29 - 02;24;10;27
Speaker 2
Well.

02;24;11;00 - 02;24;18;11
Speaker 3
Well, then you go back inside and he takes you. They go inside to the base again. Lays for was laying down and she's kind of like loopy knocked out.

02;24;18;13 - 02;24;26;20
Speaker 2
Hold on. Isn't that where chapter one ends is whenever it cuts to black with Lou being on the mud and then going quiet because then it says to Lou or.

02;24;26;22 - 02;24;55;03
Speaker 3
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

02;24;55;05 - 02;25;18;04
Speaker 3
But they're back inside now, so we're in chapter two now, I'm pretty sure, and fragile is laying down, and she's, like, kind of knocked out. And then Sam just, like, looking around, and then there's, like, the. The baby pod is just laying on the ground. Now see the little fucking baby handprints crawl towards the pod and then something happens and Sam's like blue and he's just like, kind of like, out of it.

02;25;18;04 - 02;25;18;08
Speaker 3
Yeah.

02;25;18;08 - 02;25;19;21
Speaker 2
There's like a little ghost baby in there.

02;25;19;25 - 02;25;23;11
Speaker 3
Yeah. And like this Ghraib, it just shows up in the pod.

02;25;23;17 - 02;25;26;28
Speaker 1
Yeah. I thought, like, Lou was like, repatriating baby.

02;25;27;01 - 02;25;39;26
Speaker 2
That's what I thought, too, because I was like, If Lou's a baby, but not a baby, but is a baby. Yeah. Like, if she gets all very weird, she's already kind of dead already.

02;25;39;27 - 02;25;41;26
Speaker 1
Yeah, totally.

02;25;41;29 - 02;25;48;24
Speaker 2
So, yeah, she was like. Like maybe baby died and she was like, going to be able to communicate with Sam from death.

02;25;48;24 - 02;25;52;22
Speaker 3
Yeah, well, some of the shit that, like the fucking whatever's in.

02;25;52;22 - 02;25;53;21
Speaker 2
That weird tentacle thing.

02;25;53;21 - 02;26;07;10
Speaker 3
We're just. Yeah, yeah, we get that, we get that a little bit later, but like. But like. Yeah. So this, like ghost baby and there's like, it's like she wasn't 28, but like she was in a baby pod. So there's something about like. So it's like what's going on.

02;26;07;12 - 02;26;12;10
Speaker 2
Is it baby 28 or is it baby 22? Now I'm reminding myself of Star Wars 20.

02;26;12;12 - 02;26;13;11
Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah.

02;26;13;11 - 02;26;13;24
Speaker 3
That's be.

02;26;13;25 - 02;26;14;08
Speaker 2
Like be.

02;26;14;08 - 02;26;16;05
Speaker 1
Eight. Yeah, yeah.

02;26;16;07 - 02;26;21;06
Speaker 2
Fucking loves Boba, by the way. For all the shit. She likes people for being nerds. She adores Boba.

02;26;21;08 - 02;26;23;25
Speaker 1
I remember you had that little toy V8 that you would drive.

02;26;23;25 - 02;26;25;14
Speaker 3
Yeah, I got I don't know. You can't, you can't.

02;26;25;14 - 02;26;26;02
Speaker 2
Oh, I see him.

02;26;26;07 - 02;26;26;23
Speaker 1
Yeah, I've got a.

02;26;26;23 - 02;26;27;19
Speaker 3
Little on the.

02;26;27;23 - 02;26;32;17
Speaker 2
Video. That's great. Fucking modern marvel of magnificent.

02;26;32;19 - 02;26;33;15
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;26;33;17 - 02;26;50;13
Speaker 3
Okay. And, Sphero made it. It's really cute. You can, like, have an app on your phone. You can, like Disney, like, rolls around. It's very cute. So good. But. Yeah. So. So, this, like, gray baby shows up in this pod and sounds like holding it, and it goes, like, blue or whatever, and then it like, cut.

02;26;50;15 - 02;26;50;21
Speaker 3
Oh, and.

02;26;50;21 - 02;26;53;04
Speaker 2
That's when it does the episode cut. Yeah. That's right.

02;26;53;07 - 02;26;55;04
Speaker 3
And then it cuts to one month later.

02;26;55;05 - 02;26;56;04
Speaker 2
Oh.

02;26;56;07 - 02;26;57;09
Speaker 3
Well,

02;26;57;11 - 02;26;58;27
Speaker 2
What a hellish month that is.

02;26;58;27 - 02;27;03;15
Speaker 3
Yeah. And this and and this starts with like Sam repatriating, right.

02;27;03;17 - 02;27;05;22
Speaker 2
Well, no. So it starts with Sam or.

02;27;05;25 - 02;27;07;18
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

02;27;07;20 - 02;27;08;28
Speaker 1
Yeah yeah.

02;27;09;00 - 02;27;14;07
Speaker 2
And I. Yeah. So, Sam. So trigger warning, please go ahead. Yeah.

02;27;14;09 - 02;27;31;07
Speaker 1
I was gonna say before, before he does this, I forgot the the line that he says is so devastating because he looks at the base as. Lou, can you hear me? And then he, like, looks at me like, no, you can't because you're dead. It's just like. It's like such a Norman Reedus. Like, it's such a Norman Reedus.

02;27;31;07 - 02;27;33;23
Speaker 1
Like, But then, yeah.

02;27;33;25 - 02;27;37;26
Speaker 2
That was when I was starting to feel like, oh, fuck. Okay, maybe she is for real bad.

02;27;37;29 - 02;27;41;13
Speaker 1
Yeah. Cuts back and he's he's really crashing out now.

02;27;41;13 - 02;28;00;26
Speaker 2
I'm really surprised, considering not only the ERA or whatever, but considering just like games in general and games have been doing this shit since like the early 2000, I'm really surprised that there was no screen at the beginning of the game that said, like, boy, I figure I'm gonna be some crazy shit.

02;28;00;28 - 02;28;02;23
Speaker 1
I'm surprised too, honestly.

02;28;02;26 - 02;28;20;13
Speaker 2
Yeah. So just straight up, Sam shoots himself in the head. Yeah, like period. Like just point blank. Pun intended, I guess. But since Sam shoots himself, we die. We're in the sort of repatriation bubble.

02;28;20;15 - 02;28;22;20
Speaker 1
Yep.

02;28;22;23 - 02;28;40;17
Speaker 2
Much like I don't want to go on your dumb fucking request, I was like, Sam doesn't want to boot repatriate. Why would I do it? Like Sam wants to be dead. So I was like, let's just sit here and like, let's see what happens. I think I left it there for like ten minutes and nothing happened. And then finally I was like, all right.

02;28;40;20 - 02;28;43;10
Speaker 2
And I felt bad about it because I was like, Sam doesn't want this.

02;28;43;10 - 02;28;45;15
Speaker 1
Like.

02;28;45;17 - 02;28;52;21
Speaker 3
But he repatriates. And then it does that thing where it, like, goes down his throat again and you see the the baby, but like, the baby is like, has closed eyes.

02;28;52;24 - 02;29;00;11
Speaker 1
Right? It's like, yeah, which I like. I do like the pieces that, Kojima's using to call back to the first game.

02;29;00;13 - 02;29;01;10
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

02;29;01;12 - 02;29;02;16
Speaker 1
Some fucked up way to.

02;29;02;16 - 02;29;07;09
Speaker 2
Sam have a baby in him. Is that what the C-section scar is?

02;29;07;12 - 02;29;09;14
Speaker 3
I don't know, I don't know if they ever really explain.

02;29;09;14 - 02;29;11;07
Speaker 1
Ever talked about it, ever.

02;29;11;10 - 02;29;16;27
Speaker 2
Like, what is the a the C-section scar? But be like the baby in the throat thing that keeps happening.

02;29;17;00 - 02;29;23;28
Speaker 1
Like, hopefully we learn. Yeah. And we want that. That's so good. Yeah. Well.

02;29;24;01 - 02;29;33;00
Speaker 3
It feels like. It feels like this is the. This is the game to do it because it doesn't feel like he's going to come back to this world again.

02;29;33;02 - 02;29;40;15
Speaker 2
Yeah, I was gonna say this even right now where we're at, it kind of feels like this might be the end of Death Stranding.

02;29;40;15 - 02;29;42;26
Speaker 1
I agree.

02;29;42;28 - 02;29;52;09
Speaker 2
But. Yeah. So anyway, low behold, fragile comes and knocks on the door and she's like, yo, it's been a month.

02;29;52;09 - 02;30;02;12
Speaker 3
Gotta get over it. You don't have a there's nothing for you here. Yeah. And he's straight up like, pulls the gun out of the drawer and just click click click click.

02;30;02;12 - 02;30;04;09
Speaker 2
Click click click zero hesitation.

02;30;04;11 - 02;30;12;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. And then just like dumps the empties out because like he's already tried this multiple times. And then I was like give me the gun. And he's just like whatever. And he hands.

02;30;13;00 - 02;30;16;19
Speaker 2
Yeah. Can you imagine if he would have blown his brains out right in front of this woman?

02;30;16;19 - 02;30;22;09
Speaker 1
Right. Just like how traumatized I got to wait for him to come back again. Yeah.

02;30;22;11 - 02;30;24;18
Speaker 2
Yeah, but clearly he's done this a lot.

02;30;24;21 - 02;30;25;27
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.

02;30;25;29 - 02;30;32;10
Speaker 2
So Sam keeps killing himself. And then he's looking around for food, and because.

02;30;32;10 - 02;30;33;21
Speaker 3
It's got, like, gray hair and, like.

02;30;33;21 - 02;30;35;25
Speaker 1
Gray like. Yeah, he looks like shit.

02;30;35;28 - 02;30;42;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, he looks terrible. Wait. So that does raise a question. Is, does he regularly dye his hair?

02;30;42;23 - 02;30;49;28
Speaker 3
I wonder if it's just like, he's such, like, an anomaly of a person that I just wonder if the stress and grief of everything just made him go gray in a month, like.

02;30;49;28 - 02;30;59;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, maybe. But anyway, so she's like, yo, dude, pull your shit together. There's nothing for you here. I've got a crew I want you to meet.

02;30;59;23 - 02;31;01;04
Speaker 3
I'm putting a team together.

02;31;01;04 - 02;31;06;01
Speaker 2
Yeah, like, quite literally. And then that's kind of the end of the fucking chapter.

02;31;06;01 - 02;31;10;11
Speaker 1
That's the end of the chapter. Which I did not realize for. Yeah, an hour and a half.

02;31;10;12 - 02;31;20;28
Speaker 3
Yes. Yeah. The fucking big ass like Metal Gear ship comes out of the tar and it's just like, I got a team. Yeah, you got I made them and it's okay.

02;31;21;01 - 02;31;25;06
Speaker 1
I forgot the end of chapter one. Nope, nope.

02;31;25;08 - 02;31;31;08
Speaker 3
That's what I meant. I was like, that's why I was trying to, like, be very, like vague last episode about, like, how long it took me short there.

02;31;31;10 - 02;31;31;16
Speaker 2
Yeah.

02;31;31;16 - 02;31;42;00
Speaker 3
It's very because it's literally just a couple cutscenes, like you play a little section at the beginning, like a nightmare where you like, go down the cliffs to get Lou, and then all this other stuff happens, like it's really just cutscenes.

02;31;42;00 - 02;31;49;24
Speaker 1
And I will say, no spoilers for future episodes. But just as a warning for the both of you, episode three, much more substantial than 1 in 2.

02;31;49;25 - 02;31;50;17
Speaker 3
Sure.

02;31;50;19 - 02;31;52;17
Speaker 2
Yeah. Oh, the both one and two.

02;31;52;17 - 02;31;53;06
Speaker 1
Yes.

02;31;53;06 - 02;31;56;25
Speaker 2
So, Wow. Okay. You're ready. Thank you.

02;31;56;27 - 02;31;57;23
Speaker 3
You're all cool in.

02;31;57;23 - 02;32;03;23
Speaker 2
Length or in content? Oh. Okay. All right. Yeah. Oh, shit.

02;32;03;23 - 02;32;06;07
Speaker 1
Cool. Yeah, yeah.

02;32;06;10 - 02;32;09;06
Speaker 2
Did I miss anything in chapter two? I'm pretty sure that was it.

02;32;09;08 - 02;32;11;12
Speaker 1
I think it was. I did I didn't scrub your.

02;32;11;12 - 02;32;14;03
Speaker 2
Back on that. You're back on the mountain top.

02;32;14;05 - 02;32;20;10
Speaker 3
Yeah. You start what? You start. Well, I think that's a nightmare. You start on the mountain top and you kind of like, go down. You have like 20 shoots and.

02;32;20;10 - 02;32;21;24
Speaker 1
Stuff, right? Yeah.

02;32;21;27 - 02;32;26;26
Speaker 3
And then he gets to the bottom and like, Lou is there and then she's not there. And then he shoots and stuff.

02;32;26;26 - 02;32;27;10
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah.

02;32;27;10 - 02;32;28;09
Speaker 1
Yeah yeah like.

02;32;28;09 - 02;32;29;26
Speaker 3
That. That's the context for that. Yeah.

02;32;29;27 - 02;32;32;01
Speaker 2
Yeah that's right.

02;32;32;03 - 02;32;47;09
Speaker 3
Damn. Yeah yeah that's right. Because like it starts off in the same position but it's gloomy now. Yeah. He's sitting on where he was sitting before. And then like blue is obviously not there to wake him up this time. And so it's just like a really like depressing mirror of the beginning of the game. Yeah.

02;32;47;12 - 02;33;10;22
Speaker 2
I'm wondering. So my interpretation was that he had shot and killed himself a bunch of times and just keeps coming back. I'm wondering, do you think the fact that he didn't take the gun out when fragile came the first time? Do you think that it's always had empties in it? And that's what he was showing her?

02;33;10;24 - 02;33;13;27
Speaker 3
No. Well, I don't know, because then how did he die? How did he.

02;33;13;27 - 02;33;15;29
Speaker 2
Die? Well, maybe that was just a nightmare.

02;33;16;01 - 02;33;17;00
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;33;17;03 - 02;33;19;09
Speaker 3
Maybe. Yeah, I don't know.

02;33;19;11 - 02;33;20;00
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;33;20;00 - 02;33;21;05
Speaker 2
I'm just wondering if I really.

02;33;21;07 - 02;33;22;13
Speaker 1
Interpret that because I.

02;33;22;13 - 02;33;28;22
Speaker 3
Think that could be. That's actually really a really good question. That's actually. Yeah, absolutely.

02;33;28;22 - 02;33;30;22
Speaker 2
I mean, maybe it's made to be.

02;33;30;25 - 02;33;37;15
Speaker 1
I thought it yeah. I took it as just illustrative of like whatever he does, he can't kill himself.

02;33;37;17 - 02;33;37;24
Speaker 2
God.

02;33;37;28 - 02;33;47;07
Speaker 1
I guess because he, because he pulls out the gun in response to fragile saying, stop hurting yourself. And I think it's him being like, it doesn't matter how much I hurt myself. Like, yeah, I'm fucking stuck here anyway.

02;33;47;09 - 02;33;48;24
Speaker 2
Got, I got, I got it.

02;33;48;27 - 02;33;51;16
Speaker 3
And yeah, yeah, just.

02;33;51;16 - 02;33;52;05
Speaker 1
Crazy.

02;33;52;08 - 02;33;56;06
Speaker 2
Yeah I guess Sam does cause void out. Yeah. Never mind.

02;33;56;09 - 02;34;11;27
Speaker 1
So yeah, we're just kind of. I saw a tooltip in the loading screen. Like, during episode one that was like. Yeah, if Sam dies, he'll trigger a void out and it will impact other players. Game with a greater interest.

02;34;11;29 - 02;34;15;01
Speaker 2
Okay, so what you're telling me is, instead of helping everyone.

02;34;15;04 - 02;34;18;05
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm gonna make craters everywhere.

02;34;18;07 - 02;34;27;20
Speaker 3
That does make sense then, because obviously then, like, the base is not a crater, so how could he. Yeah, yeah, in the mountain, it's not like there's no craters around. So how could you possibly be causing void?

02;34;27;27 - 02;34;32;13
Speaker 2
And that's a good point. So that means his gun was never never had real bullets on it.

02;34;32;14 - 02;34;40;07
Speaker 3
Which, which, which also explains to like at the beginning when he goes to grab it and he's like, oh shit. Yeah. He throws it back. And that's why I grab the frying pan.

02;34;40;09 - 02;34;41;15
Speaker 2
That makes sense,

02;34;41;18 - 02;34;42;23
Speaker 3
Wow. Context.

02;34;42;23 - 02;34;51;08
Speaker 2
I still don't understand why he didn't take the fucking knives he pulled originally, but, can you imagine? I think it's an all. That's the thing where he just fucking.

02;34;51;10 - 02;35;03;18
Speaker 3
Well, I mean, that's what's the thing too, is, like, I think there's, like, some considerations to make, right? It was like, oh, if I stab a person, they might die and puzzle it out. Oh yeah. So that's why he got a blunted weapon to just, like, knock them out.

02;35;03;18 - 02;35;05;17
Speaker 2
America's most wanted. Yeah, yeah.

02;35;05;18 - 02;35;07;05
Speaker 1
There was blunt.

02;35;07;07 - 02;35;16;00
Speaker 3
But I do think there's something to the gun thing where he's just like. Because. Because. Yeah. Because like the gun. Like. Yeah. Because he just. Because there's nothing in it. Yeah. Yeah. That's like. Yeah.

02;35;16;03 - 02;35;29;06
Speaker 2
Nice, If for some reason we are, every time he kept saying the gun, I was just thinking of the trailer or I was thinking the scene from Zardoz. Oh, God. The gun. The gun.

02;35;29;08 - 02;35;39;24
Speaker 3
I always think about, Chicago. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. So. Yes. So. Yes, yes, yes, they will for the gun. For the for a long gun. The guy on the gun like that part, I was.

02;35;39;27 - 02;35;42;10
Speaker 1
Just like, oh, you.

02;35;42;12 - 02;35;45;02
Speaker 2
Yeah. So that's pretty much it for, I went a little.

02;35;45;02 - 02;35;48;09
Speaker 3
Well, that's pretty much it. Three hour episode.

02;35;48;11 - 02;35;49;11
Speaker 1
In real time.

02;35;49;13 - 02;35;51;12
Speaker 2
That's us talking about this in real.

02;35;51;12 - 02;35;54;11
Speaker 1
Time is aggressive.

02;35;54;14 - 02;36;05;24
Speaker 2
I don't know, maybe I'll, considering that we didn't start until, like, 20 minutes into the other recording and some other cleanup stuff. The. Yeah, I made two and a half or something.

02;36;05;27 - 02;36;09;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, this is a good length. Let's see. Yeah, this is fine.

02;36;09;22 - 02;36;15;22
Speaker 3
Good length, good girth on this one. Good girth. Ladies and gentlemen and ladies and gentlemen.

02;36;15;25 - 02;36;19;28
Speaker 1
To talk to you on next week. And, yeah, it'll be a really fun discussion.

02;36;20;01 - 02;36;35;02
Speaker 2
Nice. I'm stoked we have a little bit more time this time. I think last time it was sort of like, let's do first impressions but not get too far. Yeah. And then it was like two days later, let's get it done. But now it's like, okay, we have like a week from right now to play, to chat.

02;36;35;02 - 02;36;48;21
Speaker 3
I feel like we also got really lucky that chapter one and chapter two or like not that long because it was really set up for us to be able to do it this way. Yeah. Where it's like we could, we could reasonably beat those two chapters in the first two days and. Okay, thanks. So,

02;36;48;24 - 02;36;49;21
Speaker 2
Yeah, he knew.

02;36;49;25 - 02;36;52;02
Speaker 3
So he knew, you know, he did it for us.

02;36;52;05 - 02;36;53;00
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;36;53;02 - 02;36;59;17
Speaker 2
How fucking amazing would that be? If it's like we have the view with the listener count that we have. Yeah. And one of them. Is that okay?

02;36;59;19 - 02;37;00;13
Speaker 3
Yeah.

02;37;00;15 - 02;37;01;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. You noticed.

02;37;01;11 - 02;37;01;22
Speaker 2
He with.

02;37;01;22 - 02;37;06;06
Speaker 1
The final credits. Special thanks to Metal Gear Mondays.

02;37;06;08 - 02;37;11;27
Speaker 3
He's John.

02;37;11;29 - 02;37;16;10
Speaker 2
Jesus. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. I'm excited to see what comes next.

02;37;16;12 - 02;37;18;06
Speaker 3
Yeah,

02;37;18;09 - 02;37;22;15
Speaker 2
I have a feeling that we're going to be meeting some new friends and seeing some old friends.

02;37;22;17 - 02;37;37;12
Speaker 3
Yeah, it seems like. It seems like my. And don't confirm this, James, because you've seen it already. But to my for my experience, it feels as if we're about to meet a motley crew.

02;37;37;14 - 02;37;45;12
Speaker 2
Yeah, from my heart, man, to you, I think that we're about to meet, a dame.

02;37;45;14 - 02;37;45;27
Speaker 1
I'm sure.

02;37;46;01 - 02;37;49;19
Speaker 2
A Brit speaking. What we're through the body of a Dane.

02;37;49;21 - 02;37;57;00
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm sure. Alessio, you can imagine someone we're about to meet. Oh, yeah. That you've been eager. Yeah.

02;37;57;02 - 02;37;57;13
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah.

02;37;57;13 - 02;38;06;02
Speaker 3
From my. From my doll, man. No, you. I have an a feeling we're about to get a little guy.

02;38;06;07 - 02;38;09;16
Speaker 2
And a little fuck. A little fucked up. Do a little.

02;38;09;16 - 02;38;11;00
Speaker 3
Fuck a little fucker over.

02;38;11;00 - 02;38;21;12
Speaker 2
Dude, if any of you guys ever come to my fucking front door and you're like, I'm assembling a team, I just need you to know the first words out of my mouth. They're gonna V is fucking doll, man.

02;38;21;12 - 02;38;23;14
Speaker 1
Part of it. Yeah.

02;38;23;17 - 02;38;31;14
Speaker 2
Just. I don't want to be a part of it. What a nasty little dweeb.

02;38;31;16 - 02;38;53;05
Speaker 3
Join us on Patreon, Patreon.com. Smelly gear. Mondays at $1. You can get access to our discord. At $5, you get access to the Patriot Club, which is a bonus podcast we do every month. We talked about it at the beginning of the episode, and at $10 you get video episodes where you can see our faces on the normal episodes and on the Patriot Club episodes.

02;38;53;07 - 02;39;00;29
Speaker 3
$5 apparently. And interview guest. Yeah, we've been we've just been running videos with interview guests now, which is something that we haven't done before until.

02;39;01;00 - 02;39;03;13
Speaker 1
Very exciting, this moment.

02;39;03;15 - 02;39;24;22
Speaker 3
So there's that. And then five and $10. Patrons do get to vote on polls occasionally and like vote on Patriot Club topics and things like that. And then of course, all of the patrons, $1 and up, get access to a backlog of Patriot Club episodes with equals out to be 65 plus hours of past content that you can just enjoy whenever you want to.

02;39;24;22 - 02;39;26;22
Speaker 3
And all of our past stuff. So that's really cool.

02;39;26;23 - 02;39;29;17
Speaker 2
So come back to work week plus overtime. Yeah.

02;39;29;19 - 02;39;54;08
Speaker 3
But yeah. So that's really cool. Thank you. So thank you for your consideration on that. You can also go to Link Street com slash Metal Gear Mondays or link to slash Metal Gear Mondays. Both work to get like all of our social links and everything to follow us and retweet stuff. Please, please, please if you can, go and review us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts that allow reviews.

02;39;54;11 - 02;40;06;08
Speaker 3
And tell a friend. Tell multiple friends, share it with people, share our social club, share whatever. That would really, really help us get the word out that we're back and that we're doing the thing. So please, please consider doing that.

02;40;06;10 - 02;40;11;00
Speaker 2
Yeah, we want to we want to we want to have money to go fly to MGS. Con.

02;40;11;02 - 02;40;17;22
Speaker 3
Yeah. We've already gotten some requests for like, hey, it would be really cool if you could go to MGS comments like, hey, we really would like to do that, but we.

02;40;17;25 - 02;40;28;06
Speaker 2
Also need to do that. Those people. And I don't want to single you out, Jess, but you, you should also tell them, jeez, con, you really want us to be there?

02;40;28;09 - 02;40;37;10
Speaker 3
Yeah. If you can find like, an or if you can find like an organizer, be like, hey, there's this podcast called Metal Gear Mondays. And it would be really cool if they could come and like, do a panel and MGS con,

02;40;37;13 - 02;40;45;19
Speaker 2
Even if they know who we are already, it's just the more voices that are saying shit like that, then the more pleasing it will be for them to consider it.

02;40;45;21 - 02;40;46;17
Speaker 1
Yes. Yeah.

02;40;46;20 - 02;41;00;15
Speaker 3
And that's not. And that doesn't just go for MGS combat. Like if you were at like a local con and you are just like, this would be a good con for Metal Gear Mondays to be at talk to them and be like, hey, these guys are cool. They do Metal Gear stuff and they'd be great to to show up.

02;41;00;17 - 02;41;13;09
Speaker 3
If you want to set a place, it really, really helps if you tell them that you want to set a place and then they can reach out to us and kind of like, we can like hash it out. Yeah. Yeah. But admittedly, MGS con does feel like a no brainer.

02;41;13;13 - 02;41;21;00
Speaker 2
Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Well, we'll have conversations closer to the end of this year. We just need like the Delta stank to settle.

02;41;21;02 - 02;41;31;22
Speaker 3
And ultimately two is like we were inactive for the first two. And so it's just like, I feel like the relationship is going to start getting built anyway. So yeah.

02;41;31;24 - 02;41;31;28
Speaker 2
Yeah.

02;41;31;28 - 02;41;33;20
Speaker 3
So tell tell him you want us.

02;41;33;27 - 02;41;35;09
Speaker 2
Yeah. Run. Tell that.

02;41;35;11 - 02;41;36;26
Speaker 1


02;41;36;29 - 02;41;56;00
Speaker 2
Do you I do want to really quickly also promote that we are currently in the process of finally securing an interview, with a wonderful human being named Marty Roan, who is the voice of, I think, a character we are probably going to be in immediately in chapter three named, man. Yeah, sounds like a.

02;41;56;02 - 02;41;56;27
Speaker 1
Word, man.

02;41;56;28 - 02;42;04;14
Speaker 3
It does sound like a slur. I've been very, very vocal about the fact that Tar Man does not sound like something that any of us should be able to say. Yeah,

02;42;04;16 - 02;42;08;29
Speaker 1
Did I read is the. Do we know who the body? Yes.

02;42;08;29 - 02;42;12;00
Speaker 3
George Miller, George Miller director. Yeah.

02;42;12;02 - 02;42;15;10
Speaker 2
So did director of Happy Feet, and that's pretty exciting.

02;42;15;12 - 02;42;15;27
Speaker 1
Yeah.

02;42;15;29 - 02;42;28;03
Speaker 3
So body is George Miller, but the voice, it's kind of. It's a Hartman. Yeah. Dead man scenario where it's like the voice is this Australian, actor, singer, musician, Martin Rodger.

02;42;28;06 - 02;42;28;24
Speaker 1
I'm here for.

02;42;28;24 - 02;42;34;11
Speaker 3
It. Yeah. So we're really excited. We're going to talk to Marty. We should have that interview for you at some point in the next couple of weeks.

02;42;34;13 - 02;42;40;02
Speaker 2
Going to be talking to it's not 70s fucking Australian pop. Yeah. Which is the very craziest thing.

02;42;40;05 - 02;42;50;17
Speaker 3
It's very cool. And I think we've talked about this before, but that's not going to take the place of an episode, where we're talking about the game. We're just going to do a double release when we, when we have interviews like that.

02;42;50;17 - 02;42;52;10
Speaker 1
So generous. Yeah.

02;42;52;13 - 02;43;02;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. Extra content for you. So if if I mean really it would I mean if you. Yeah. Really thank us for those double episodes. That'd be great.

02;43;02;23 - 02;43;06;18
Speaker 2
I'll give you my ACH numbers. You can just shoot me a wire.

02;43;06;20 - 02;43;08;20
Speaker 3
You know, call me. Beat me if you want to reach me.

02;43;08;20 - 02;43;09;13
Speaker 2
Yeah.

02;43;09;15 - 02;43;15;20
Speaker 3
If you want to page me. Nobody has pagers anymore. What are you talking about?

02;43;15;22 - 02;43;15;27
Speaker 1
But.

02;43;15;27 - 02;43;29;08
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm excited. I think this season in general, everything feels great. I'm feeling great going into it. The game feels great. I'm glad to have James here. Let's all wish Isaac happy travels from Turkey. Coming home.

02;43;29;11 - 02;43;46;14
Speaker 3
You said I wanted to make a joke so bad because earlier you were talking about, like, how you were doing something in Iran. You said Iran. And I was like, oh no. Yeah. James, are you still kind of like, waiting for stuff to show up? Nothing to promote directing. Was.

02;43;46;17 - 02;44;09;05
Speaker 1
Directing on blue Sky. I'm working on. I can talk about what I'm working on in the background. I'm trying to write some stuff. I'm working on the final edit of a spec music video. I'm gonna throw it there. It's, and then, I'm like, doing, like live performance stuff in Saint Louis, like in 4K.

02;44;09;12 - 02;44;14;06
Speaker 1
Okay, cool. Like that's goals, but nothing to promote right now. Just a lot of, like.

02;44;14;09 - 02;44;17;07
Speaker 2
Practice just falling.

02;44;17;09 - 02;44;22;07
Speaker 1
To feel good. You know, training, dying of luck and humidity in Saint Louis.

02;44;22;07 - 02;44;23;16
Speaker 3
God, it's so fucking hot.

02;44;23;17 - 02;44;28;06
Speaker 2
Did you guys see that? Alaska got its first heat warning in history.

02;44;28;07 - 02;44;28;24
Speaker 1
Like, ever.

02;44;28;24 - 02;44;29;26
Speaker 3
That sucks.

02;44;29;26 - 02;44;31;20
Speaker 1
Yeah. Ever, like, ever sucks.

02;44;31;24 - 02;44;33;20
Speaker 3
We're so fucked, man.

02;44;33;22 - 02;44;35;00
Speaker 2
We're cooked.

02;44;35;03 - 02;44;43;04
Speaker 3
Speaking of fucked, Alecia summerfield.com. That'll get you. Unless. Is that.

02;44;43;04 - 02;44;44;00
Speaker 2
Yep.

02;44;44;02 - 02;44;55;11
Speaker 3
Elysium. It that on there is social medias. And you can find my stuff at Linktree slash Lilliana dawn is where all my stuff is. So sorry.

02;44;55;14 - 02;44;57;23
Speaker 1
I'm speaking of fucked.

02;44;57;26 - 02;44;58;29
Speaker 2
It's just a box.

02;44;59;05 - 02;45;06;24
Speaker 1
Starbucks.

02;45;06;27 - 02;45;09;00
Speaker 1