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We're recording.

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Let me see you're down.

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All right, doing a countdown.

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Five, four, three, two, one.

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Mark, here's to you, dear listeners.

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Welcome back to the season finale of Metal Gear Monday's Revengeance Portable Obsidition,

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where of course you'll find your favorite conversations around metal gear and Kojima

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related content delivered to you through tactical podcast action.

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I'm your host, Warren Minix, and with me as always is Mr. Chris Hampton.

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How are we doing, Chris?

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So this is the listener response, man, season two in the books.

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Oh my God, it feels like we just started this yesterday to be honest.

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Yeah, I can agree with that.

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It does feel, these last few months have flew by.

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Yeah.

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Well, you know, thanks to the listeners for sticking with us through this portable season.

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Yeah, so this whole episode is going to be based on listener responses, anything that

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has to do with either the season, the franchise, just stuff that has come across our email or

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in our Discord to discuss on this particular episode.

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I will say that unfortunately, Tori is a little preoccupied on special assignment.

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We do miss you, Tori, and we look forward to moving on to the next season.

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So, see you at Chris.

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We don't have to jump in like right off the bat, like right off the bat.

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But I got to say, we're two games in, right?

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I think this was a good second game to go through.

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As far as like your playthrough experience of Metal Gear?

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Yeah, I think I like that it like obviously we started Metal Gear Solid 3, right?

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Like that is, that's the game.

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That's the one that most people sort of put on a pedestal, tend to be, you know, most

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of the community's top game.

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And this was chronologically story wise, but also chronologically the next game made

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very drastic as far as how you played it or sort of the sort of the boxes that it ticked

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when it came to it.

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It had a lot more of like that.

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It didn't feel like the MGS 2s, your MGS 4s, definitely not MGS 5.

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It just had like a very, it was like a nice change of pace, knowing that we're only going

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to have like two or three of these.

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So it was just, it was a good little snap.

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And because I think this one isn't really, this one's sort of forgotten a little.

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Maybe not by the community, but writ large, I think that portable apps get sort of left

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over and we'll, we have a couple of Canon chat that we have to bring up in our listener

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responses, obviously.

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Yeah.

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I mean, and I think that's exactly why it gets left out because of the Canon issue.

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You know, you go in the wiki and they're like, everything below this is just like not Canon

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but you know, this is a game that came out that had Kojima seal of approval when it came

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out.

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So take that for what it's worth.

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I don't know.

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I mean, people, people spend so like thousands of hours, right?

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Writing fan fiction and then nobody bats an eye at that, but you throw a game out there

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that like Kojima did not produce direct and make the trailer for and all that and people

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just lose it.

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So I don't know.

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It's so weird.

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It's, it's especially after, I would hope that going through this season, at least everybody

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that's been listening through having Ryan Peyton on was like super informative.

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I mean, I think it's great that we got to talk to Ryan.

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So a big shout out, thank you to him for being on the show and talking with you and

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Tori, you know, it's it's awesome that Metal Gear is just one of those communities where

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we do get the benefit of insight from people who helped create the series, you know, and

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that makes a huge difference.

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And I think it does a lot to keep it alive.

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Yeah.

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And it feels so genuine too.

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Like it doesn't feel like it's just like, you know, hullabaloo of just like, yeah, yeah,

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you know, I guess I kind of like the whole experience, you know, where they just sort

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of throw out like, you know, some maybe it's a real answer, but you don't really know.

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I it's nice that we didn't really have to like edit out a lot of stuff.

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We didn't like all of our questions were sort of like giving the thumbs up.

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We didn't do anything like we didn't press any buttons.

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Like everything felt like green flag go have, you know, yeah, well, answer it as best we

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can as long as you can remember the answer.

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It was really cool for me at least.

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Well, should we dive into some responses here?

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Yeah.

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So I tried to be somewhat organized, which thank you for everybody that has dropped

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in some sort of discourse with us, whether it be about the game, maybe the host, maybe

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the future of the show.

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But we didn't want to try to have a little bit of an organization with us today, but

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we have to start obviously.

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So we have a patron Jason who made sure to send in.

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Jason has definitely been named a few times.

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He's definitely one of our more active patrons.

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He simply sent in, can we just get to Peace Walker already?

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Now, I made sure to scrub through some things.

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I thought I saw that Jason was actually having a pretty good time with portable apps.

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So what I will say is, Jason, yes, we're going to get to Peace Walker, but I don't have dates.

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I don't think we have dates yet on next season or anything like that.

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Just yet.

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It's been a weird year, surprisingly.

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But yeah, Peace Walker is in the in the future.

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Yeah.

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So please, Chris, are we getting to Peace Walker already?

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Yeah, we will.

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Chill out.

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Hey, Jason, my question for you is, when are you going to get to Peace Walker?

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I know this is Jason of Jason and Ellie fame, right?

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That's correct.

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Yes.

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So yeah, when's Jason going to cover Peace Walker?

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When are you and Ellie going to play it?

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I'll have to be hype.

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So just I figured that's a nice little primer.

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Yeah.

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So now I made sure I didn't.

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We did get a lot of very nice sort of appreciation, I would say.

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And I didn't want to make it a whole thing about that.

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That seems where I think we're a little more humble, but we do have two particular

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I they're patrons, so I'm going to keep calling them that because we love you guys

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so very much.

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Our patrons are fantastic.

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So Alex had thrown in just wanted to say thank you for all the time, effort and labor

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you put into making pods for us.

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I appreciate everything you do for us.

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And I'm very happy and proud to be a patron.

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I thought that was very nice.

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It is.

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Yeah, thanks, Alex.

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I like Alex.

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He's a good kid.

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Yeah.

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What it probably gets the act like active award.

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Yes, I think that's true, Alex.

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You get the most active in the Discord award.

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And yeah, any time you do a stream, any time around table, whether it be for a

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movie or a video game for like, you know, movie of the month or game of the month.

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Man, he really tries to make it like homework.

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And I mean, he does have a good sort of reasoning.

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He has a lot that he hasn't experienced.

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So he uses like us as an excuse to get it.

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And he's got people to talk to about it.

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So, yeah, I mean, I'll give him credit for that.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, as long as we don't have to bring the Discord ban hammer down too hard.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Just keep it in line, Alex.

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And we're pretty, it's been pretty light.

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It's been it's been good.

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You've been you've been in good behavior lately.

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And then Silky Johnson, who Cody,

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he says that I know I was on the MGM cord hiatus for a hot minute,

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but getting involved again and chatting with y'all pretty much daily has been a huge highlight.

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I appreciate it.

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And I hope I get to meet at least some of the community in real life one day.

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Thanks, Cody.

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Yeah, sure.

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That'd be great.

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I mean, I don't want to shout out like personal stuff, but maybe some moves are

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happening that are getting people just a tiny bit closer.

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I know we do have some international listeners.

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We do have at least from where I live, literally across the country.

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But yeah, it'd be great to finally figure out.

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I mean, even though I'm still like the new guy, I am like you guys are Internet friends.

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I've never gotten a chance to meet anyone in person yet, which is which is interesting.

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I think it'll happen eventually.

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It seems like the world's starting to slowly welcome that again.

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I don't know if I'm getting on the plane.

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Yeah, that's me.

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My personal opinion.

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But yeah, man, Cody, I hope we can meet in real life, do something, you know?

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That would be fantastic when it comes to that.

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Got a guest room is the best I can do.

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But those these these two patrons are like super involved.

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They're they're definitely they're like the sort of gold standard, as far as I'm concerned,

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with how a patron should be, especially with just their insight.

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And sometimes, you know, I love when a conversation with Cody happens and he's

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seen a movie three times that I've only seen once.

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And just I'll get a lot of information up front.

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And it's just very, very fantastic.

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Or I'm like, thank you.

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You clearly did your homework to bring something to the table.

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And then Alex, like I said, he's always around to give an opinion and

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he'll speed run anything or at least he'll try.

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Let's put it that way.

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Yeah.

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Heck yeah.

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Two pillars of the community.

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Thank you, Alex.

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Thank you, Cody.

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So we do some Patriot Club pods as well.

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And those are the sort of PCs that we do on the off weeks for patrons.

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And a couple of things came in for us around necessarily the Patriot Clubs.

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But as I looked at what they were referencing, I'm like, these had to have

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been not on the main show.

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I guess one is a little telling of me, but whatever.

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So Ghostat himself actually chimed in and, you know, maybe he's trolling us,

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but he was at least we're worth answering.

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Would we be interested in doing a Death Stranding novel pod?

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Just a single pod on the novel.

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Would you be open to that?

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I don't know.

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I mean, is the novel only in Japanese?

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Is it translated?

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If I'm not mistaken, I believe it is available.

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In English, I don't know.

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I don't read books.

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So.

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OK.

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I don't know what a book.

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What's a book?

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Alessio, I, you know, I would be interested in doing a reading.

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And if it's good and if I feel like I got something to say about it.

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Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

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I'd be down for that.

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I'd have to read it too.

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It is not on my list.

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But if I were to say anything was good in that game outside of atmosphere,

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the story was actually engaging, maybe getting to the story was where the

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frustrating bits kind of got there.

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But yeah, I mean, we didn't even talk about that Death Stranding trailer

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for the director's cut.

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Did we? No, we haven't.

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I mean, I guess if you want to take 30 seconds to bring it up, I mean, no, man.

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Yeah.

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We'll just a quick side bit here of our review of that that trailer.

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Yeah.

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Hey, I posted it in the discord and was like, what is this?

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So that was that was my community engagement around it.

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So it was so weird, like it was a like it obviously was a troll, right?

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It was very metal gear focused.

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Even though it had no reason to be with Sam, you know, hiding in a box

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even the wrong way. There's the music, the music, the orange.

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Like there were so many little things in there that just it was like, what?

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What are we watching right now?

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And then it just finished with like director's cut Death Stranding.

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I was like, oh, no.

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So we just got trolled.

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Because our is I'm concerned, but clever and fun.

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I like that. That was a good one.

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Yeah, it was.

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All right. Reaction, reaction corner, bringing it back.

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And then it's a little bit.

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Yeah.

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And then Tyler, who is a listener and a patron.

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So I got this sent to me.

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And it had to have been through a Patriot Club.

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I don't know why I would mention Fortune in a in a Portable Ops episode,

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but maybe he basically said that I love that Fortune for MGS2,

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if anybody doesn't know, was Warren's sexual awakening for black women.

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Hmm.

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And basically he said he loves it.

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So, yes, I'm married to a beautiful black woman.

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And I think I traced it back as far as I could.

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And it was Fortune was like the first time where I was like,

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this is kind of my thing.

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Yeah.

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I seem to recall we were talking about Fortune

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when we were talking about how outlandish

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the bosses have gotten like progressively

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sure in a chronological release,

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how outlandish the bosses have gotten with superpowers.

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And you said it kind of all kicked off with vamp and Fortune.

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And I was like, oh, yeah, I think you're right about that.

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Because it was like, yeah, what a weird.

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That you know what, maybe that'll be like one of those offseason conversations we have.

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I know that the I know the OG crew did at least a little bit of a boss chat.

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Yeah. I bet you we could pivot on it

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and just have like a way of like maybe bosses that made an impact on us or anything.

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Anything that makes us not just talk about Psycho Mantis for like 15 minutes.

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Yeah. You know what I mean?

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Because that tends to be like the go to even though I would probably put it as my number one.

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But I bet you there's a way because I don't think we three

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have at least been able to engage pretty consistently over discussing

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like our favorite blank of, you know, of some of these games.

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And I bet you we could pivot so that it's not just.

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Top 10 Metal Gear bosses.

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Exactly. And hopefully not to sound like click baby, more about our experiences.

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I think that's like our whole brand is at least it's a personal thing.

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It's not just like a countdown from five to one.

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Yeah, I think so.

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So yeah, Tyler, thank you for chiming in on that.

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And yes, that is I think that's as true as it comes, because I tried to date it

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as best I could and that was very close to where I would chime it in.

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So yeah, so now some portable app stuff.

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Listener and patron Nick wanted to shout out the track Calling to the Night

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and that is an underrated track in the pantheon of melodramatic Metal Gear music.

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He then continues with I'm glad that portable ops got a full treatment

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and is getting some deserved love while it's far from a perfect execution.

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Portable ops deserves recognition for its creative experimentation

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with gameplay mechanics and systems as well as its very limited

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very Metal Gear story, which was doing a lot of things first in its themes

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and plot points that would be adopted by future mainline MGS titles.

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It's clunky from its home on the PSP, but not one for fans to miss

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with all of its sweet, sweet, Metal Gear, melodrama, military soap opera,

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absurdity that we've all come to know and love.

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And I think I think we think we agree on that.

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That seems like right up right up our alley as far as like

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are what we have done with the episodes at the end of the day.

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It's weird that the Canon sort of got called in because this feels like a Metal Gear game.

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Yeah. On so many levels.

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I think so. I think so, too.

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And again, we we've spent plenty of time sort of like harping on the PSP and all that.

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But yeah, the story, I think, you know, I'm not going to ask it a rank at Chris,

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but I do think it was a strength.

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And I think that the mechanics and stuff that that Nick had mentioned here,

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the systems.

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So outside of being in the menu, like for minutes, every other couple of minutes,

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you're picking right, you have to check your loadouts, you have to check your spot.

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What intel did you grab? Who am I going to send on this mission?

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Outside of if that itself felt tedious, I think the actual UI and the layout

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was actually clean, like, yeah, like I think it's it's and it felt very Metal Gear felt on

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sort of on point, right?

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Yeah, I mean, I sort of forgot that because I was playing it on a large screen

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that it was a game designed for small screens, you know, so it

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probably by necessity had to be a super clear thing visually, right?

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Right. With massive ABC.

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Right. Exactly.

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Yeah, but it works, you know, and it does, I think,

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play well with the type of gameplay you get in the game.

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Yeah, definitely.

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And I don't think it ever knocked like that never felt like it was that was what

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was slowing the game down for me. I waited for it.

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I was ready to mock it.

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And it it really felt like part of the game.

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Like it almost felt like a tactical RPG, in a sense.

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Like, I'm like, oh, I got to pick all my little pieces before I

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start the mission.

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If it was like, obviously, if I was replaying to like,

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get a load out or something or get some intel.

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But when it came to like moving forward with the story, it was ready to hate it.

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And it wasn't really much of a problem.

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I actually enjoyed it more than I thought it would.

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So as far as characters go, so Tori

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called out to some of the listeners while we were recording an episode

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and they were talking about if we recruited any extras.

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And I know I know I brought up paramedic at the time.

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So Lee Elbubio is his is his discord name.

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But Lee has actually like been super active when it came to like the interview

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responses and like questions like questions for our interview guests.

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He's been like really active with that.

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I love getting his insight on certain things.

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So when he was asked, he basically said, I bumbled into recruiting paramedic.

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Just went to the back of the hospital, the scavenge,

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and the radio room was highlighted and she parachuted onto the roof for some reason.

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I recruited Python, Reikov and technically no,

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but didn't start a new play through.

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So if he had played again, he would have had those characters.

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Balls, the recruiting gene as you have to kidnap 200 soldiers before you fight him.

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No, thank you.

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And I believe the others take more than one play through to unlock.

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So yeah, maybe in 10 years, I might do a play through again.

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Right on. I like that.

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As far as characters, I know we mentioned it slightly, but

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what was that something that you were like trying to do?

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Did you were you like going through a guide and saw like, oh, shit, I can get Reikov

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if I did A, B and C. Yeah, I kind of sneaked and peaked at like what sort

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of legacy characters I could get.

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So I tried, but there are some difficulty spikes in how you unlock some of those guys.

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So I don't know.

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I'm not that persistent in when it comes to my gaming.

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Few folks got left behind.

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But aren't you a destiny player?

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Isn't that like your whole thing is like, just make sure my skill curve keeps

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getting better so I can grind out new gear or anything.

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Oh, man, I haven't touched destiny in like.

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About a month and a half, I think you're all about sailing the high seas.

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Yeah, I've just.

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I've been playing a little bit of the.

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What is it?

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Pirate game, you just were talking about it.

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You mentioned it. Yeah.

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Yeah, see if these. Yeah.

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Yeah, I've actually been playing a little bit of that because I wanted to play

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through the Jack Sparrow stuff.

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So I'm playing that with a friend of mine.

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It's really good.

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Like the story stuff.

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Yeah.

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If anyone ever wants to like hop on and run through one of those tall tales,

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like hit me up.

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I'll do it. It's fun.

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Now, you said you like trying to do on the Jack Sparrow stuff.

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Was it the Jack Sparrow stuff that like pulled you in?

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No, it was my my buddy wanted to do it and he pulled me in.

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So. OK, he's a big Pirates guy.

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Is that what like Pirates of the Caribbean is in the movies?

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He's a he's a bit of a Disney head, I guess.

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Yeah. But.

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Yeah, I don't really go in for Disney stuff hardcore like that.

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Like I saw the first Pirates movie and I thought, oh, this is good,

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but really haven't pursued it beyond that.

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Some of them get a little long.

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We did. We're long.

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How many are there now? There's like, I think there's five.

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No, that's so many. Five.

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That's probably. They always have.

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They always have good actors playing the villain.

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Yeah, that's true. I tend to like if they have Bill Nighy

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and I think what was it?

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Jeffrey, not Jeffrey Rush, and so on.

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And then they had a in Tanshiru.

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What what is that guy's name?

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He was in Skyfall, but he played like Barbosa.

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Oh, yeah. Or not Barbosa, right?

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He played like a really famous pirate that I am like butchering

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any sort of lore that has to do with pirates.

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That David Jones, right?

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Well, David Jones was Bill Nighy.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right.

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And it just it's they're fun, I guess,

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but the first one did feel very special at the time, you know?

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So and that's got the best line ever of the best start,

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believe it in Ghoststones, Miss Turner.

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Yeah, you're in one.

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It's like such a great like trailer moment.

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But yeah, so back to battle gear.

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Look, when it came to the some of the recruiting characters,

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I think my I liked it better.

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Like I planned on oh, if I, you know,

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use the tranquilizer to kill instead of a shotgun

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to kill a person to kill a boss fight, I would be fine, right?

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I would probably get a character out of it.

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It would work to my to my benefit.

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But as far as as far as that, though,

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I actually liked like a paramedic because it was just one of those.

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Like I think you had to do something a certain amount of times,

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but it was nice because you were it was it just had to do with

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like the gameplay.

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It was like if you did a certain part of the story, you were rewarded

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with the character, you know?

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Yeah, if that makes sense.

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I just but otherwise, yeah, I wouldn't have done the kidnap 200 soldiers.

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I think I got pretty high up there, though.

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I think I got close to 100 just naturally.

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Sort of like getting into the gameplay loop.

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Once you could just hit a button to like send them back to the truck.

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Really didn't mind so much like taking them, you know?

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Yeah. So but I got I got pretty high when it came to it,

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just because I think I was just getting good at it again.

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I think I was trying to get my chops back up for when we get to

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some of the, I guess, earlier games, because I the clunky controls of

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like interviewing and like no, you're to the middle of your solids,

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who is was rough trying to get those dog tags.

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I kind of suck at that, at least from that era of.

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Of that. Now, I got another one here.

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And unfortunately, it doesn't have I don't want to like read someone's

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email address out. I don't want to do that.

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Doesn't have a name attached to it.

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So just just for their anonymity, feel free to reach out if it's

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if you have a means to if this is your literal response.

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Email. So it says not to be the ultimate gene downer.

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But I got to disagree with Warren's love of this boss arena.

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I can appreciate the thrill of a close quarters battle,

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but this one left me feeling a little too much like solid snake and liquid

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on top of Metal Gear Rex or riding and solidus on top of some rando building.

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The difficulty wasn't anything to complain about,

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but the restricted setting does leave a bit to be desired

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in the way of creative tactics.

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So all right, I know that I tend to be I have my moments of being critical,

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but I think I'm the I guess I'm the one that brings the love a lot.

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I try to see the best in people.

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Well, I like how some random building is like the New York City

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yeah, I mean, is that email or wrong?

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No, do we know what building it is?

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You know, it could be anywhere, I guess it's it's the one with the

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Washington statue out in front of it.

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Is that true? Is it like a special building?

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Like is it a an actual like, oh, the this building?

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Yeah. Oh, well, that's you know what?

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Just for the sake of the emailer, I would I would love to hear what this is

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so we can like have a little bit of federal hall.

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So that battle is on top of federal hall.

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Yeah, that's incredible.

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Some random building.

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It's all Metal Gear solid, too, is really good.

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Guys, oh, my God, that's such a cool little thing.

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And why did I never I don't know if I've ever processed it?

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It's it could be a famous, you know, like something special.

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And of course, in Metal Gear fashion, it's a fight on top of federal hall.

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That's incredible.

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It is legit.

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Oh, I love that.

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So yeah, sorry, emailer.

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I don't want to blow up your spot.

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So if you do not mind, feel free to reach out again, just so maybe

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in a future episode, we'll give you some love because that was a hilarious response.

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So I have a response from a thief who is a very special patron.

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He likes to chime in through the literal comment section in Patreon.

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And we're actually going to be dedicating a PC episode

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to him, one of the Patriot Club episodes coming up in the near future

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by the time you listen to this.

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I'm really looking forward to that.

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And I don't want to reveal what it is about yet, just in case,

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because I think the community will be excited to hear what we end up talking

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about that one.

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But I want to make sure I bring up a few things.

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He brings up a lot of peace walker in this, which is fine.

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I'm not going to call him out on it.

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But he he basically says the unique content of portable apps really is amazing.

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It does feel like experiencing a new Metal Gear game.

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And it fills the gap in Metal Gear.

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He says coverage. So I'm gathering he's mentioned in the story.

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And he says the game is actually decent.

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I feel like Big Boss plays MGS one, but with the aspects of peace walker.

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So that makes sense, too.

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And he puts in parentheses, peace walker is my favorite game.

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OK, we get it.

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Let's find he drops a few things about some stuff, especially about OG MGM.

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But he he likes that we are practically his Metal Gear timeline, the podcast.

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But he then puts but it's more fun. OK.

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And he enjoys he he loves to just have a list going of how many times they've retconned the series.

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This was a good one to start doing that already.

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And he says that including peace walker Metal Gear 3 and 5 portable ops are so close to a secret

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like a sequence in story that doesn't involve like dramatic changes.

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They tend to have like an ebb and flow.

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So he's definitely feeling the build up of the story as you go through each of those four games,

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which is really cool.

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And the thing I like enough is that he mentions that the four of them also find their way

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of building up the mechanics and the quote unquote legend of Big Boss.

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I think that's that's a pretty fair way to sum it up, at least as far as

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if you're looking at it from the protagonist's side of you.

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Like you're just it's another like notch in the belt of yo shit.

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Did you hear about that thing Big Boss did?

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Yeah. In like the 70s, you know.

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Did you when so when it came to this?

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I guess like we've talked about the bosses.

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We've talked about the baddies, the good people when it came to this.

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We had a lot of good discussion around.

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Big Boss and three and our main like discussion point was how it was still David Hader, right?

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Right.

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And he wasn't solid snake.

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He was Big Boss, two totally different characters.

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And it felt like two different characters.

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It didn't feel like we're just like having a laugh and doing the same guy.

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But he's a clone dad of him, right?

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Right.

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How did you feel when it came to the voice work in general, just because, you know,

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it's a lot of text and a lot of reading.

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But in the moments that there is voice work by most of the characters,

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how did you feel about Big Boss and his interactions with most of the other characters

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just as a whole because we've done individual ones.

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But overall, how did you feel like a motive, happy, sad, like not really was it worth it?

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Yeah, I think so.

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I mean, the story, I think, was compelling for sure.

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And it was among some of the most well written connections between characters.

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Like, I believe the interactions between the snake and the bosses

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that we went up against in this game.

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Right.

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And.

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I can't say that for all Metal Gear games.

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Now, I got to name names or anything.

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But yeah.

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Yeah, I think it is emotionally compelling.

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You know, I mean, what do you think?

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Yeah, I think the one thing that I kept sort of bringing up outside

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of just saying the story, the story, I did appreciate you just brought up.

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I like that Big Boss had.

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A history with most of the characters or at least he was like a Jason character

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to someone very important.

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So maybe he never met Jean, but Jean and the boss were tight.

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Right. So like they already had these sort of like added stakes that

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usually it could feel cheap, right?

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Like they're just saying someone that was super important in previous game

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to like fake, like make them sound important.

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But I didn't get that vibe with this with at least the story of this game.

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It didn't feel like they were just saying, well, we got to put the boss in

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because everybody loves her.

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So we got to like drop her name or something just to keep players interested.

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No, they kind of doubled down and tried to say like Jean was the next boss.

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And he was like in his own mind and gave him his own like special power,

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which really did play a role in a game that came out a decade later.

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You know, like little things like that going back, you don't really

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like catch on. Like it's just sort of like, oh, yeah, I forgot all about that.

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He talks and people listen, you know. Yeah.

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But it's it's clearly like I said, you mentioned that the Kojima stamp

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of approval in a sense. And clearly he had a little notebook and was like,

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oh, shit, this talking and listening thing is a pretty good idea.

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And I want to, you know, take that and evolve it and try to do this violent, you know.

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It was it's cool. And, you know, like I said, we definitely tossed around all of the

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like the good the characters, the relationships.

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I know Tori would love to hear us bring up Jonathan one last time.

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Oh, Jonathan.

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Her favorite boy in all of all of Metal Gear Portable Ops.

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But yeah, just I think the the character, like I said, it felt like

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it's such a pun or a terrible way to turn this phrase.

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But it did feel like a bite size.

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Like here's like a little story of Big Boss.

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Like it didn't feel like it was supposed to be this massive thing.

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It just felt like, oh, right. In 1972, Big Boss did this.

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Like if he had a whole book, it'd be like Chapter Six.

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You know what I mean? It wouldn't be like why the book was written.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

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Yeah. I like I like that a lot.

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And that ties into a see legend of Big Boss.

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I think that's that's the big the big thing that

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I think that works for me because it Big Boss as the years have gone on.

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Like I love the boss.

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I think that tends to be like my default favorite character.

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But Big Boss, as we've been focusing on these games, he's starting to climb

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where I'm like, damn, this guy is pretty bad ass.

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And I know we we had talked about Metal Gear 4

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because it's like the end of the saga.

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And I guess for spoilers, but I mean, come on, guys, we're going to Metal Gear

[00:33:26]
podcast there. But when you get that, you know, and

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Yada, Yada as Big Boss, what the?

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And he shows up at the end, that whole thing.

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It's really cool, man.

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Like, like it's a great send off.

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And Big Boss is just a fucking dope character.

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And this is just another way to build up how fucking cool he is.

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Yeah, I think so.

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As far as the canon, we got a lot of stuff about canon.

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We've definitely talked about canon a lot in the episodes, in the discord.

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But I did something was sent to us that I think at least sums it up enough

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that I think it would be convincing enough for at least you and I on it.

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I made sure to drop it in the notes.

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But it has in Metal Gear Solid 4.

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There are a few portable app scenes present in a cut scene.

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The scenes that are shown are Gray Fox fighting Big Boss.

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Big Boss fighting with Cunningham.

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Big Boss fighting Raja.

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Some sort of a crash, I'm assuming it would be Raja if I'm not mistaken.

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Alisa dying in Snake's Arms and Jean's death with Big Boss looking over.

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That's most of the game as far as the story.

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Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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So yeah, there's no null.

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They don't really technically mention that Alisa and Ursula were, you know,

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not two different people and psychokinetic powers and all that.

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But that's that's pretty fair.

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There's a Metal Gear.

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You have the guy that was a defector, quote unquote, from the CIA.

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He got sort of a can.

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He was sneaking around with the Department of Defense.

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The big bad is, you know, dying at Big Boss's hands.

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You get a little bit of null in there because it's Gray Fox fighting like that's

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that's enough for me.

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I mean, even if the whole game is in quote unquote canon, that's

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I don't know, a game feels pretty canon to me.

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That seems to be a pretty good like nod to portable ops being like we trust it.

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We're in. Yeah, I think so.

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I feel like it is inclusive enough and it matches the tone, you know,

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well enough that it makes sense. Sure.

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Yeah. And I wish I did a tiny bit more research of where this is in the game.

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But I know it was sort of to it was I know it was like a big old

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like this is what happened to Big Boss.

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Like it was about like snake learning about what the fuck was going on

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prior to a lot of this stuff, you know, because before is where it's like

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we're we're well past anything going on in portable ops and we saw three were

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in like, I think, isn't it like the distant future of like 2016 or something?

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Something like that. Yeah.

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But we got a lot of people saying that really cool that Ryan Payton and Cosmo

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Genochi and technically all the other interviews because just as they were

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scattered through some people had sent in, you know, big shout outs to fingers

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and Peter Lurie, who came in and chatted with us early in the year before our season started.

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I really appreciate having you.

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We're like, yo, that was awesome.

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Like thanks for talking to someone I haven't heard talk about Metal Gear in a long time.

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And fingers was cool because he was like, you know, he's got coaching

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frequency and stuff like that.

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So it was nice to have some some music chat to. Yeah, it was.

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That's right. You were on the fingers one with me, right?

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You were there, right?

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I think I don't know.

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I can't remember.

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I think you were on the finger.

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Like, I think I made I made it a point to be like, if we're doing a music one,

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if you can be there.

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Yeah, I'd like you not that you have to.

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You're not only identified as being a musician to me, but I know sometimes

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it's fun hearing you talk about it.

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You can see the little glint in your eye when you start talking about.

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I like to bring that out of you.

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Yes, talking about music. God, I.

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I'm so excited for shows.

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Oh, my God.

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Can't wait.

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I feel you. I'm slowly.

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I'm going to get settled because I had a I have a real problem with shows.

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And we'll go as often as I can.

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And I'm trying to like take my time.

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At least I'm learning to remember how good they were.

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And honestly, I miss playing shows.

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Yeah, playing is fun.

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It is.

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Really do.

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Speaking of interviews.

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So new new goofing.

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New booze.

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He's one of our patrons.

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He did try to chime out just as we're going.

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We actually surprisingly had a decent amount of like death stranding chat

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because we had done we did stalker as one of our like MGM goes to the movies pods.

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And there was a lot of relation of death stranding to the like the concept of stalker.

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I won't have to go into the details.

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But if you if I can say that they're somewhat related,

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you can understand where stalker is sort of coming from.

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And new new boogevon one is actually concerned.

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He was like, hey, have we ever tried to reach out to low roar?

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And maybe we'll just see if something like that.

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So I figured, all right, I'll throw it in this app.

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Maybe we'll reach out the lower roar.

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You know, I would be down to talk to lower roar.

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Oh, yeah.

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And just in case if anybody doesn't know the copy written music in death

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stranding is fucking incredible.

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It's a bummer that it's copy written music because if you watch someone play,

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you can't hear that part.

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But especially how cinematic it is in that game.

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Really impressive atmosphere.

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Yeah, really, really, really well done.

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I have one final one from original shez.

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But before we start jumping in.

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I know last time we did at least a couple of iTunes reviews.

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We got a few more since 2021 had started.

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So I figured I might as well drop a couple of men just so people know that if you

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chime in, we like to do our best to make sure that you, as listeners,

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recognize that we love you guys.

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We try to give you any credit that we can.

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So let's Dali Wally at some point in 2021 had mentioned that this podcast

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is incredible for MGS fans.

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We're a great way to relive the games with others who love it as much as you.

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So thank you. Let's Dali Wally.

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You're pretty dope.

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Yeah, thank you.

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I'd like to hear that.

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And that's the right answer to school.

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And then it says, why me do me?

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I have no idea if it's why we do me or wane, wane dome.

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But two thumbs up.

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Someone who routinely watches Metal Gear Playthroughs on YouTube to pass the time.

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I'm absolutely thrilled I found this podcast.

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It truly brings back my childhood in a vivid way.

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That's so touching. Thank you.

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Yeah, I like that one. Thank you.

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I have one question that I hope that I'm not wrong in saying we've definitely

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talked about it in passing, but I want to like put the hammer down

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because original sheds.

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That's the name.

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Ask the question.

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Do we want more Metal Gear?

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Hmm.

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I think I'm good.

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Being real.

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Yeah, like I think I think Metal Gear has run its course and I'm OK with that.

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And I want to see some new stuff out in the world now.

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I want to I want to see what comes after Death Stranding.

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I want to.

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I don't I want to live in a world where we just keep reusing the same old

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IPs and ideas.

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Now.

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Does that include something along the lines of like we had?

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I think we've recorded together.

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I know I less the own Tory and I definitely discussed the casting of the movie.

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Allegedly, you know, coming out sometime in the near future with a director

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who's interested, would that be something?

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Is that like at least that scratch the itch?

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I think that's different.

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OK.

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Because if you think about it, Metal Gear is kind of like

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what a movie could be like if it was a video game.

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Sure, because it's so cinematic.

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But I feel like seeing the reverse interpretation of that,

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how heavily they borrow from the the cinematic pieces of Metal Gear

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is going to make or break that movie.

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Yeah, I I'm not worried because, you know, I'm no screenwriter.

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I have no idea how to make good movies.

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You know, we're at what's a bad movie versus just watching them.

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But like, is it going to be buttshots?

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Right. Is he going to crawl into a vent?

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We're going to get a great look at like snakes butt while he's going.

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All right. They did that.

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Really sultry.

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The Doom movie, didn't they?

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They did a first person thing.

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Yeah. Yeah, that was bad.

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We should. Yeah.

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I don't want to eat cheesy things like that, but, you know, like some of those

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like long shots and hall passes.

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Right. You know, that stuff is like real good and moving.

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Yeah. Yeah. Even even on older consoles, it's still

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was very, very jarring, very stark and impressive.

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I totally agree.

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So I'll circle back real quick.

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So I P you mentioned that now.

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How about like remakes?

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What if Blue Point got their hands on Metal Gear Solid

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and gave you like a fresh PS5 era metal gear solid remake?

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Would that be something that you're OK with?

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Yeah, I mean, I'm OK with whatever.

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I'm not. But do you want it?

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I guess is what I'm asking.

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I don't know, man. I don't know.

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I just it's not like this is recorded or anything.

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So you're not going to be like held accountable for what you have to say.

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I'm just I want to know because this is something we don't really chat much about.

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Here's what I want is some finished.

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I want some finished video games.

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I'm tired of playing like all this stuff that just comes out and it's half done.

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Like, you know, I was really excited about biomutant that was coming out.

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Yeah, how'd that go?

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All right.

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It got really bad reviews.

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I ended up getting it anyway, because I just wanted to experience it.

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It seemed like a new fresh idea of something.

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And it's got a lot of great qualities, but there are also a ton of problems with it.

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And I think that's largely to do with the fact that.

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It kind of got blown out of proportion, you know, in the marketing.

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It's it was an indie studio that was like being published by a bigger studio,

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but they're still in D. They're still small. Sure.

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I don't know. But then I have like cyberpunk,

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which I still just can't bring myself to finish that game.

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I deleted it off my Xbox like two weeks after it came out,

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have not looked back and probably never will touch that game again.

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I know. And it's a bummer because you want to say that, too, because even even this,

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like, I guess five is the most recent example, because sorry, guys.

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Look, we can mention survive, but I don't know if I can talk about survive

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without just disappointment.

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Like I won't talk about survive, but it I can include it for a sense

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because at the time, the Fox ending still looked fantastic.

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But I did I do miss the error when games would come out finished.

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Right. And like Final Fantasy Seven was one of my favorite games last year.

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And it's a chapter of the game.

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It's going to be five parts, four parts.

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We just got like the PS5 baby, you know, six hour interim before the next game.

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And yeah, it while while I love the experiences I'm getting from it,

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it it does feel like this piecemeal thing.

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The Metal Gear never really had that at first.

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Like you got a complete bat shit story

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and like crazy gameplay stuff, but it was a total package.

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And I guess to piggyback on your sort of thoughts, not that I want more metal gear.

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I don't know if I want more metal gear, but what I want

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that I don't see as much as at least I thought I would.

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I want that franchise to exist that sort of does

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to video games that Metal Gear did.

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That makes sense. Yeah.

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Like I want to feel it doesn't have to be innovation.

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It doesn't have to be the best game ever made, but I just want it to feel

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like sort of someone who's up their own but a little bit.

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Sorry, Hideo, we love you, but,

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you know, a little all tour, right?

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So very unique.

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You're going to get very unique experience based on whoever makes it.

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It doesn't have to be one person.

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It could be a studio that's incredible, but they also like double down

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on all the stuff that would make a game good for casual players.

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Yeah, like no one can make fun of like Metal Gear Solid

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because the gameplay is isn't tight.

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Like the fucking game plays tight as shit in that game

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and the story is good and all that stuff.

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And I just I feel like I'm out on Metal Gear.

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Like I'm happy with what we have.

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I love that there's a community out there that multiple podcasts

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YouTube channels and developers still talk about Metal Gear.

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It's clearly something special because it's lived on for so long.

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Oh, yeah. Five generations of consoles.

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And it's just one of those things where I think I'm looking for

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the new the next game series to sort of take that like little part of my heart

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to move forward and that way I can like truly sit back and just appreciate

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Metal Gear for what it was and not what it could have been or something like that.

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I'm ready to close the door on Metal Gear,

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but I don't want to close it until something else takes that like mantle.

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Yeah, I think is I think is where my heart lies

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when it comes to the do me one more Metal Gear question.

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Yeah, I think that's.

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You know, you always want to say be careful what you ask for, right?

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Right. And I think this is one of those things like if you

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keep asking for Metal Gear, we got Metal Gear Survive.

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Are we going to keep asking for it?

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And see what we get after that?

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Yeah. Because, you know, I don't know.

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I don't really want to deal with that.

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Sure. Sure.

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I'm going to divulge a quick little Metal Gear Survive

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tidbit to you. I don't think I've ever said it on on my kid.

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Now it'll be part of this listener response.

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So when Metal Gear Survive came out, I was doing another podcast at the time

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and I was ready to shit on survive.

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And I I've tried to like stop that side of me

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or like I just want to hate something so it can't be good.

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Right. I felt a little sort of childish at the time.

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And I think I want to say the first half hour,

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maybe the first 40 minutes of the game.

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It's not a bad like tutorial.

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And I remember playing it and being like 40 minutes in and like, oh, my God,

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is this game like like going to be good?

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I remember like, all right, wow, this big.

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There was a cool opening cinematic like game looks great.

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The I love the concept of like you have all your stuff.

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And then as soon as they were like, here's the gameplay loop, I was like,

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oh, thank God, this game.

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Shit. Yeah.

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It was so frustrating to to actually be like

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like Metal Gear got me again.

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I got the itch and I was like, oh, my God, I'm not Snake.

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But, you know, I feel like I'm part of Mother Base or I'm

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I'm going to run into him or do something.

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And they did some fan service in that game in the end of it.

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But to get that little rush in my heart of like, oh, my God,

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is this going to be like a unique Metal Gear in quotes experience

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to then just throw up a fence, poke them with the stick.

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And you'll be fine.

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But it's like, all right, this is a bummer that that it wasn't as good.

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But that's where my my heart was.

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And I think that was like probably the start of like, maybe I should

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like give games a fair shot before I.

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Shit on them or do whatever.

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Like I didn't follow the bandwagon.

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I just sort of created my own like in my head.

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I'm just like, this is going to be bad.

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And I mean, luckily I was convinced correctly.

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But yeah. So is there anything, Chris, that you want to

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sort of air out or finish up as because I think we're wrapping up here.

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I didn't want to go too crazy long on this final one.

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We we've done our final thoughts, but if there's like one lasting.

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You know, impression from this game or maybe in its relation to a future game.

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Is there anything you want to chime in before we we cut the cord here?

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I mean, I feel like.

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You know, we can't say thank you enough to the community.

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So thank you again for all you listeners.

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Stick in with us.

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Writing out the show and sneaking around.

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So that's all I got to say.

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I'm so sneak sneaking around, you know, in our sneaking suits.

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That's amazing.

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But yeah, I'm going to echo Chris, a massive shout out to the listeners

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to our patrons.

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Our we got such a cool little community man.

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And I know I mentioned it in like our last

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legit mainline podcast, but Chad and Nick, who are.

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In so many words, they are like our they help us out with just so many

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little logistical things that go on behind the scenes of the show.

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They help mod our discord channel and just help with everything else going on.

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They even chime in when it comes to podcasts now and they've kind of

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got their own little fan base going up on the thoughts that they have

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because it's like a whole unique like taste on whatever we're talking about.

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And it's just it's really cool.

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And I, you know, a year ago, I didn't really know most of these people

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outside of listening to them on a podcast.

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And it's just awesome how nice everybody's been.

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And I just want to give a massive shout out to Chad and Nick.

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And then, of course, our patrons and overall the community, like even if you do,

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even if we're not your favorite podcast or the change to the new hosts

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have has been a little different, even the criticisms are constructive

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and not, you know, sort of keyboard warrior, slap, slap, slap, you're done.

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It's been very like I love what you do here.

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Do you guys ever think about going into this?

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Right. Like it's it feels like, OK, they're trying to actually assist

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in us creating a better show for people, which is not something I'm used to,

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like, all the time.

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Yeah, I think that's right.

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Like the it's certainly an engaging audience.

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And it's not one that's.

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I don't know, combative or anything like that.

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Sure. But yeah, so.

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I think that it's time.

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To let a rip check.

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Let a rip.