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Here's to you dear listeners and welcome back to another episode of Metal Gear Mondays

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Reventions where you'll find your favorite conversations around Metal Gear and Kojima

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I'm your host Warren Minix and with me as always is a double agent from the CIA.

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Chris Hampton, how we doing?

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What's up y'all?

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I just, uh, I call me a sleeper agent I guess.

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I'm awake and ready for the mission.

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I love, I love sleepy Chris.

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I can't wait for this.

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Sleepy time.

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And uh, yeah I love it.

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And Tori is actually on special assignment from the Department of Defense as of right

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now.

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Yes.

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So, uh, before we roll into everything I will throw out there.

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We're going to go all the way to the end of the game so this is our last story episode

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for the season.

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So we're going to hold off on like the overall final thoughts.

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We actually had talked about this well before Tori was unable to make this particular episode

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but we weren't going to talk about like our total overall thoughts on the end of the game.

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We're going to hold that until we get to the listener response episode.

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So if you guys can June 25th is the absolute latest you can put in a listener response.

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Actually the email is the best contact the Metal Gear Mondays is the best way to get

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out there.

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So if you guys could send to that email and label it, uh, label it what you guys need as

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far as the listener response episode for that.

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We've gotten a bunch in already so thank you for everyone who has.

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So we're going to go through the end of the game.

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We got a few boss fights to discuss and the rest of this story.

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So do you have anything else to add Chris until I drop our patron that we're going to

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shout out?

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Is there anything else you want to add before we move on?

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You know, uh, I'm just happy to be here and let's hit it.

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I love it.

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All right.

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So we got our patron shout out.

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So our patron for this particular episode is, oh, there it is.

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Thank you.

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Boy Pusse.

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So yes.

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You are the man and, uh, B O I. So just so we have that and Pusse as in P U S S A Y.

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You are the man.

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Thanks a ton.

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Make sure we're talking to you in discord because I love meeting new patrons and learning

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people's real names.

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This is like one of my favorite things to do in the discord because everybody has silly

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names and stuff in their discord handles.

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But you're the man, dude.

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A proper shout out to boy Pusse for 2069.

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Here's to you boy Pusse.

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Cheers, my man.

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Cheers.

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Cheers.

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What are you drinking?

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Kool-Aid.

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Uh, so I have a Fiji artisian water and put a little, put a little flavor, put a little

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flavor in it and maybe a little, a little something extra to give it a little zip for

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tonight.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right, man.

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I'm ready.

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I think, I think we get started on our final story episode.

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You ready?

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Yeah, let's do it.

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Let's bring this mission home.

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So we, we left off where we had defeated Metal Gear Raxa knowingly killing Alisa slash

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Ursula and Jonathan has sacrificed himself in the name of Big Boss.

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So we are literally hard cut.

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Jonathan has died and now we need to exact revenge, stop this plot.

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We learned that there is another Metal Gear, the Metal Gear we just defeated was a prototype

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or a, you know, not the full practicing model, which is not great.

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So Intel suggests that we go to a power station, which is just south of the ravine.

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Now I only brought this up because if the game had more maps like the ravine earlier

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on, we had talked about a couple of good maps.

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We talked about the town and there was like a couple of interesting places, but the ravine

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is actually like pretty vertical and a pretty large map and we have to get through it.

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We find our way into the station.

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We have to get to the switchboard because we don't have a ton of explosives.

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So if we have a few calculated explosives at the switchboard to cut the power, which

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would then let us know and break into where they're holding the Metal Gear Raja, the

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proper one.

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What did you think of this whole plot slash map of the ravine and the power station?

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I mean, it was sad to lose our boy, Jonathan.

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He's been with us since the beginning.

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I know all of us have had very sentimental attachments to our dear boy.

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Yeah, Jonathan was a man.

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He was.

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Down like a true champ, you know, trying to save the boss.

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And that's got to be a pretty heavy emotional weight to carry for a snake.

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Yeah.

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All these men losing their lives for him, you know.

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But so that was pretty cool.

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Then the like the McGuffin part of like, oh, actually, that's not the big bad.

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The other big bad is.

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It's like, OK, well, the game, it's like it's almost like a near thing, you know,

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where you don't really start until you beat the game.

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Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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Your Metal Gear is in another castle.

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Yeah, it's like Metal Gear, Portable Ops, Plus Mode, Secret Boss.

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I love it.

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Yeah, to get like ending E, which is the real ending or what?

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I don't know. It's a lot.

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It's a lot in near, definitely.

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Yeah. And yeah.

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I guess it's OK here because it's.

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You know, the boss fights are probably the most standout part of the game

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from a game perspective and where you get like the biggest

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break from the sneaking part and the like dragging bodies around.

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So I'm not really ever going to complain about the boss fights in this game.

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I welcome them. Cool. Yeah.

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So as far as this ravine map, though, because I actually like

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the sneakiness of this particular map, because there is a lot of guards

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between the ravine and the power station that's got the got to like climb

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through the and shimmy across.

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There's the bridge you got to get across to get into the building.

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And there's it's a lot of that.

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If the sneaking that you were sort of discussing

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was more like this, I think I don't know if it would have elevated it per se.

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Maybe it would have been a little too much early in the game to be this,

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I guess, involved.

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But I it sort of really felt like playing

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like a Metal Gear Solid 3, I guess, because that would be the closest

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to the engine slash like timeline of playing the game.

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It felt it felt pretty good.

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Like it felt right. It was a great map, very big and open.

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But also it had a lot of familiar places we had been and a lot

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of places to hide and like we really had to map out, you know,

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what the hell is that guy that keeps finding me?

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I like that stuff too.

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But yeah, I'm glad you like boss fights, because there's going to be a lot of them

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in the story episode. We're going to do a gauntlet, a gauntlet, a rogues gallery here.

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Yeah, to your point, yeah, the verticality of the ravine area is pretty cool.

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And it is you have a bit of familiarity with the space when you go back into it.

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So it's sort of like you've mastered the the the gameplay by this point

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and you get to really do some neat nifty tricks.

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That's always the fun part of any game, right?

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Like where you finally got the gameplay down, Pat, and you can like

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do some movie starship on the screen. Right.

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Exactly. And you don't need to have like a machine gun.

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Like you can do it with the tools you've had since the beginning.

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I totally agree with that.

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Yeah, I totally agree.

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So story wise, we find out so we get to the the red X, which is the switchboard,

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but we can't just drop any regular explosive.

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They claim it's better to have a time detonator because we'd only have five minutes,

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something like that.

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So now that we can choose when we ignite the the detonator,

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then we can use that five minutes to get in.

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And as soon as we drop the charge,

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we see that no, we go into a dope cut scene and no is losing his shit.

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He has not completed his mission.

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Why is Snake alive?

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That all that kind of stuff.

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He's killing everyone that's in his path.

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And he essentially is doing this like whole, why are you, you know,

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why do you choose to live?

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Like what what what do you bring to the table?

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What what makes you so special?

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And he wants Snake to answer.

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It's not that Noel needs to know.

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It's very weird.

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But this is where they finally dropped the bomb that not only is Snake known

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who Noel has been, I guess, after seeing him, but it's Frank Yeager.

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It is Gray Fox, Cyber Ninja from the jump.

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And he knew him as a child soldier in Mozambique.

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And I I'll admit on this, obviously in the research and playing the game,

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but I didn't realize that Frank Yeager, I knew the Yeager part was like a nickname

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because he was a hunter is what they called him.

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But I didn't realize that Frank wasn't his actual first name.

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They called him like what the Frank Yeager is the Frank Hunter

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because he was such an upfront little boy when it came to his training

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or when he was there in Mozambique.

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I never knew that until playing this again.

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I don't know how I miss that, that he wasn't like Frank Jones.

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And they just started calling him Frank Yeager.

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It's a full code name.

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So before we get into the fight, what do you think of this cut scene?

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I think that.

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This is kind of the first time that we see Gray Fox slash Noel slash

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whatever, since he's being crushed by that milk, your rats, right?

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Right. And it's an interesting parallel to like that.

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Cyber Ninja cut scene where he's in the hall, you know,

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in middle of your solid one, you're walking up and it's just gritty,

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gruesome and a little foreboding, right?

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I think this is, from my perspective, a bit of a callback to like what

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witnessing what it what went on in that hallway might have been like.

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That's true. That's a great little piece, because he can, he's clearly capable.

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We've known that since we've known who Gray Fox is.

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Oh, he's violent.

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You know that he can slaughter everyone.

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Right. He's a violent mother.

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He's awesome. I love I love Gray Fox.

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Yeah. Also like, OK.

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So I didn't know that the Frank thing was like,

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you know, the word Frank was his name.

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Right. I didn't know either.

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I really didn't know. So this time, Frank, like Franklin, Franklin,

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Joseph, great, Jager or whatever.

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But it's so funny to me how important names are in middle year.

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Right. Yeah.

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Especially like coming from a place where people are named

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Jim Bob and Bubba, like not a lot of thought is put into a person's name,

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it seems, really.

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But here it's like, oh, my God, this stuff is cemented in the stars.

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Almost. It's like your name is the prophecy of who you are.

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Right. It's weird.

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And yet so so straightforward.

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So Frank.

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Frank. Yes.

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Well, let me be friend.

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Exactly. So yeah, outside of the music being super ominous

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during that like five minute timer that's hitting us,

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we get into our second fight with Noel.

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Yeah. And what I'll throw in there, we already talked about verticality

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because they're starting to really open up the maps.

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And this is pretty noticeable, too, from the first map that we fought

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Noel into this. But I don't know what it was.

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And maybe it's just it seems like the same fight he's supposed to be.

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I would have thought he was going to progress in difficulty.

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But at this point, I was able to like exploit when you get close to me,

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does like that dope like spin with his like his sword or whatever you want to

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call it. And you can just roll past that and just clip him

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with whatever you're trying to kill him with.

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And it was a lot easier in this particular map.

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But I try also wanted to like get a feel.

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So I played it, right?

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Didn't do that just to see how he reacts and some of the, you know,

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the word choices and dialogue.

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He's he's it's a pretty cool fight.

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I like the look of it. What do you think of this fight?

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Yeah, it's interesting.

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I mean, it's the old Indiana Jones thing of like, don't bring a sword to a gun

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fight. So it's not that difficult of a fight,

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especially when you're snake and you're packing an arsenal,

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which by this stage in the game, you are packing an arsenal.

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Sure. Yeah, everybody, your whole team could be packing an arsenal at that point.

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Yeah. So it's not challenging.

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It's almost like this is just sort of like a cameo

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of a character to like give a little bit of fan service.

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You know, yeah, especially after a drop that he's Gray Fox.

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I wasn't expecting a second null fight when I had first gone through the game.

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I figured, oh, cool, no.

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And he's going to be like, you know, once you know he's Gray Fox, it's like,

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and I'll catch you in the next game.

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You know, I really thought that's what was going to happen.

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And it's not the case. You know, it was it was cool.

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And again, you can do the shoot between reloads, you know, the normal

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the normal stuff.

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Aselots taught us well for so many years on how to do a proper boss fight

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when it comes to that kind of stuff.

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But he's cool, man.

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And when we beat him, we it's a nice little reunion.

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I actually I again, we talk about this every time we do this,

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but the character stuff

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is pretty good. It's not.

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And it didn't feel cheesy.

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They sort of have a record recognition of each other.

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And you know, as part of the crew, he literally comes back with snake.

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I mean, he might be a little defeated, but he's we got him.

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Like we just took like their ace in the hole.

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Like that's crazy that we got Noel by the end of this game.

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That's fantastic. Yeah, it's fun.

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It makes no sense at all.

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But it's fun. Exactly.

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It's why he shows up in what metal gear. Yeah.

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Right. The OG metal gear.

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Yeah. So now we have found out where the metal gear is being held

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and they have a silo.

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So Intel gets us to the silo.

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And I don't know about you. The one thing I did notice is the music is like

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we're at the end of this game, baby.

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Like it is boom, boom, boom.

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It's got that crazy like it's super intense.

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But we got the ramp and the silo.

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Now, the silo is a map we've I think personally,

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I think I played like four to five times just story wise moving back and forth.

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So I was able to I knew exactly what to do.

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Like it was really fantastic.

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I really felt like I got like this game is mine.

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And there's some cool platforming for the game.

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You know, I don't want to compare it to other platformers.

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But we get into the complex.

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We I mean, again, metal gear taught me well, chaff grenades.

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You can hide from every camera pretty easily.

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You get your keys to get to the elevator.

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And we all know what happens on the elevator.

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So just before we talk about that boss fight,

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did anything stand out to you when it came to the silo

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before we roll into the next boss fight?

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Because it is quick.

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Well, yeah, it's super fast.

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It's the game has picked up so much pace by this point

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that you're pretty much on rails and just being rushed.

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This is the climax.

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So, yeah, not much to say.

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But it. I do appreciate how like quick they pick up the pacing here.

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Yeah. All right.

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So we get on to that elevator.

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We head down and we get a pretty pretty interesting cut scene

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with a boss fight.

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Now this we did kind of pick on him a little bit

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when it came to the bad guys episode.

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But Cunningham ends up on one of those like hover things that were in.

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I guess they were previously established in Metal Gear Solid 3.

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He's got his own that's like pretty armored, which is pretty cool.

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But there is. Yeah, exactly.

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Think of those old commercials.

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Do you remember those?

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I do remember.

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Do you have the one that also like you could pull the piece up

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that attached to the thing to let you go up the stairs to?

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Oh, yeah. You could like click the thing.

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You could like, I love that.

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But I do remember the the literal hover round.

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They go to the Grand Canyon.

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Those are the two. Yeah.

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Yes. And they look like you can do whatever you can do.

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Oh, that's amazing.

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But you're right. It does kind of look like that.

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Yeah. So yeah.

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So we picked on Cunningham a little bit.

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The main thing was because he did the whole.

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He wasn't like a double agent or anything.

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But this is where we learned that he actually has been working

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for the Department of Defense this whole time.

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So he has had his own motivations, unrelated to Fox, unrelated to the CIA.

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And it was all about how and we did pick on this.

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He has like the bum leg.

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He literally is missing a leg and there are cyborg ninjas and shit.

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Like he really felt like he just sort of got left to the wind.

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So we went to the Department of Defense, who he thinks is going to take care of them.

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It does a lot of exposition, talks about a bunch of stuff.

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And the thing that was interesting is Big Boss was planted to be there

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to be the hero and make Jean launch Metal Gear.

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Like they planned on Metal Gear being launched and he was planted.

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Like they would need him to be in there.

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And he tries to say like, hey, join me, Snake, we're going to do this themselves.

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And I don't know.

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I thought it was a pretty good offer, but Snake says he's fighting for himself

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and a little cheese.

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But I don't know.

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I kind of liked it, especially after losing Jonathan.

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We just got Noel back.

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We, you know, we sacrificed Alisa and Ursula.

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It feels pretty, pretty good before the boss fight.

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I mean, is any of that makes sense to you?

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I know we kind of picked on it in the character focus, but was

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did this surprise you that Cunningham was like he was on his own journey

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this entire game and that Snake was a plant?

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Yeah, I mean, it is.

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I guess like this is the first time this idea has really been presented

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in the game of like, you know, there are there are parallel events happening

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outside of the perspective of the player, which is rooted in in Boss's experience.

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Right. You're just in here.

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Yeah, but for a game where you're actually, I think the first time in

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money or series, you're focused more on collecting almost like

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a Pokemon, these, these different dudes to like outfit your, your crew.

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It's nice to like get more story material behind those characters.

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Sure.

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It really makes them feel like more of a part of your crew or

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like more of a foil to what you're doing.

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You know

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The example with Jonathan for example like I don't think Jonathan that events where Jonathan sacrifices himself

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We would have the impact that it has in the game if you hadn't built that relationship

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With a character by playing with them. I

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Agree yeah in Cunningham. We like I said we talked about him, but he's he's compelling his voice acting is really good

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He makes a very good impression. He screams bad guy

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But he he's good. He meant he he did do the whole you know, you and I aren't really that all that different

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You know the the obvious thing that happens in every villain

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But but yeah, I agree. I thought the story wise it makes sense

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It's he it's he it's obvious why he's so compelled to to I guess achieve his victory that he's looking for

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But now let's talk about the boss fight because it is a little

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Comical I don't know. I don't know what it is. I

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Am flying around you're on an elevator moving and I

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Don't know it just you throw up you throw I threw grenades or flashbangs or chase anything that would get him to like drop his little

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Elevator thing down

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Shoot him pop pop pop rinse and repeat

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I don't know it looked cool like I did like the moving background like all constantly moving because you're on a

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You know, you're on the descending elevator, but uh

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outside of that

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He does wheel the Davy Crockett. I will give him that yeah

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What do you think of this fight though? And I don't want to like poo poo on it

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But I don't know it didn't seem as mobile as I wanted

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Yeah, I think it was a little stale after a while

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I don't really like

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The

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Encounters in this game where you're fighting against things that are flying around you. Yeah, it feels like a really unfair

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Advantage to enemies because of how clunky the controls are sure

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Especially without that second joystick, you know, I

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Agree I agree. So what do you think of his pretty unceremonious death? He just sort of oh, yeah, it's like

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Just squished up. He's gone. You know

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Yeah, I mean a

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It's a bummer because I like I like him a lot and I mean they all can't be winners when it comes to

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the whole I guess his biggest reveal is he had the dope intro to the game and

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He had ulterior motive that does tie in

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We'll talk about it when we get to the end of the game like the end end of the game

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It really does tie to the motivations that inform the future of the games

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So he does have like plot like juicy

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But I don't know pretty pretty unceremonious fight it felt very like just whatever

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You know what I mean? I had no desire to like trank him or I was just like let's get on with this

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Where's the fun fights? I don't know just didn't do it for me

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Yeah, well

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All right, our boy dies and we get down to

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Jean in the control room so we get to the control room and this is where I

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Like Jean and we you guys had swayed me the other way when we did the episode

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I was high on Jean and then you guys brought me to like regular

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Jean I'm lukewarm now

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However, I think this is where I was referencing it Jean now has killed everyone and we know that he's capable of that

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He did the whole you don't know who the traitor is and they all kill each other

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So clearly he's a sociopath. He whatever gets him to his end is what he wants

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But out like this is cool. It's a pretty awesome idea

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for a boss arena like just the massive control room for

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Metal Gear Raja the true one

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But this is where like my notes here man. I have a whole page on

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It seems Jean knew everything all the time

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He planned to launch the Metal Gear Raja at the Pentagon

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So it was never he wanted to make it look like it was Russian

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Going on American soil that messes with NATO and the United States and especially the philosophers the New World Order

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He wants to make the peninsula the armies heaven to breed the perfect soldier making him the true successor

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And it just felt I don't know it was a lot

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It was a lot when I was like, oh my god, what is happening?

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What did you think about this there was a little bit of rebooting which we'll talk in a minute

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But what did you think of at the end of the day? Jean's reveal of his real plan?

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Yeah, I mean well

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His plan is like this New World Order, right and the philosophers legacy is the key to that which is the

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The persisting MacGuffin right now is the philosophers legacy, right?

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I don't know

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Jean has some big aspirations

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in his world domination scheme

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but

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I was listening to this when we were when I was playing through the game and thinking to myself like

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Yeah, no, like the patriots are not gonna allow this to happen

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You know, like you would you would think right zero would not allow this to to be a thing

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Right, but zero can't be involved Kenny

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Dun dun dun

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Yeah, I mean

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Jean has this like big boisterous soapbox moment

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But it's clear

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When he's giving this exposition that he doesn't realize like the the part that he's playing

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in the the game

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Right around the philosophers legacy, you know, he's he's

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Seeing his moment and he's going for it just like vulgan did before him

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Well that whole vulgan thing too

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He I don't know if he's throwing shade at the boss like this is where they

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They like retcon a slight bit of the mgs3 story

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They basically say that

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It was planned like the whole thing where boss told us because vulgan

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Shot the davy crocket into russian soil that informed her plan moving forward

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But now he's saying

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That that was that was planned

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Like vulgan the whole vulgan decisions he made was also a plan and kind of throw shade at the boss saying like

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You know, you let her to this decision and all that like I don't know I

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I'm okay with it because gene is clearly like he's out. He's off in his own planet now

[00:26:17]
So he can say and do whatever he wants

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It's a little bit of unreliable narrator because that's something I do really like about him is you will listen to him because he has like that

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Parasite thing so he can alter the history books by just saying what he wants

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So I do like that in a sense

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But I don't know I just felt the shade was a little real for the boss and I just want to make sure I

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Personally say like don't don't fucking throw shade at the boss bro. Yeah, that's not cool

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That's not cool. That's a line. You just don't cross especially with snake

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you know

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Snake very much sees himself as the protector of the boss's legacy and that's gonna be

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That's gonna be the source of conflict for a lot of events moving forward in this game

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so this is like

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I don't know gene saying like

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Telling your mama jokes to snake. I mean it feels like that right? Yeah, and he's like no, you don't do that

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You don't tell you you don't that's a line. You don't cross about the boss

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Exactly. Yeah, and he's just like you're a dictator like you're not a you don't have like a special calling

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You're not going to be the savior here. You're just another asshole in a long line of assholes. Like that's just what you're doing

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um

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So yeah, so gene launches metal gear and his little

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Duel like he I think he I think his exact words are he takes out both bases of the philosophers

[00:27:39]
But with hitting the pentagon and Russia like he's gonna screw over they basically if you take down both

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They're not going to be able to recoup and he wants to wipe them off the earth

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And in a crazy surprise thing

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Ursula and Alisa survive

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They survived the metal gear raja fight. They show up

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To I guess help because now they're both against gene and this is where I think like gene is pretty bomb

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She can read thoughts. She's a telepathy. She's a telepath. She's a she has that ability. She's a psychic

[00:28:08]
But genes reflexes are so fast

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I was like, oh shit. It's gonna get real and the next scene. Bam. She's killed

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Like he just stabs her dead on the floor

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Uh, that was pretty shocking. I thought that was actually

[00:28:23]
like pretty

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Pretty pretty like bomb and they reconfirm that big boss's son

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Sons quote unquote will both save the world and create metal gear and attempt to take the world by like

[00:28:35]
They really like hammer home like metal gear solid one's gonna happen. Like like it's it's it's pretty cool. Um

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I I liked it, uh

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Did were you shocked that they survived that that Ursula Alisa thing? Did you yeah? Are you I was absolutely because like that was a big explosion

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You know

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Yeah, we lived through that

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I guess a telepath that can probably control maybe protect yourself in like a gene gray kind of way

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maybe like a

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Some there's some psycho mantis

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Shit going on. Yeah for sure. Definitely as usual pretty common in our metal gear games

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That's the thing is like what is this like x-men supernatural

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layer

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in metal gear games that really just I don't

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Feel it was a huge part of one

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Like psycho mantis was yes. I was just gonna ask you this. Where do you where do you think it shows up?

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It starts in two in my opinion with vamp, right? Is he the first one vamp and fortune right? They feel the most

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Right. I totally agree. And I it's that is that an artistic choice. You think that is it like a kojima?

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like

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Trying to one up himself in that sense because I think that's why like

[00:29:52]
Three and one feel so special three had x-men. I mean they do control bugs and shit

[00:29:58]
But I think that's why one is still like I always find a way to argue back that that's

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That's my favorite like I don't know. It just feels very it's more about shadow moses and the incident not

[00:30:09]
The special powers of everyone. You know, I mean, yeah, I agree with you. I mean

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Shit uh

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I guess it's like I don't know that it it's some weird like well, we just have to make things interesting

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But maybe it was uh, well, how do how do we design interesting boss fights?

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You know, sure in the first game it was a lot of guns and tanks and like typical military stuff

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Same for the nes games and then

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you know

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Now we have like people using projectile bees and

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Using and apparently doing instant transmission. Yeah, or whatever whatever gene calls it

[00:30:51]
Right instant transmission psychic

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robot

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Controls. Mm-hmm and hyper reflexes and all that stuff. Yeah

[00:31:02]
Well, all right. So speaking of instant transmission and crazy reflexes. What do we think of this boss fight?

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I'll let you start this. Hmm. I mean

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The fight is really good, you know

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uh

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This is like

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sort of a cqc

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Up close. Mm-hmm these boss fights with gene and I really like that

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Because it feels like

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Mono-y-mono very fair

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level

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Footing, you know, sure definitely

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um

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But other than that, I don't know if they were

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It's so funny that he dis is the boss, right? He dis is the boss right before this and we get into this

[00:31:48]
This fight where he's using like some cqc stuff himself and a knife to

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In a in that in like a way

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That reminded me of the boss fight from three

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At the end of the year

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Because absolutely getting up close with him is really dangerous. You have to like kind of

[00:32:08]
State keep your distance and like whittle him down a bit before you go in

[00:32:12]
If you rush in he'll like combo you and you always just get stuck and

[00:32:16]
and whatever but um

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Yeah, for him to like shit talk the boss and then like now face my cqc. He's not that great

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Uh of a funner

[00:32:27]
Outside of the cool

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I like he when he throws like 55 knives. Yeah, because he has the super crazy reflexes. It looks cool

[00:32:35]
Like it's it's it's presented. Well, it's like a little bit of like an oscilot

[00:32:40]
fast shooting

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Knives right?

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Yeah, exactly and that's I like that. It wasn't just another gun, you know, it wasn't like another like

[00:32:50]
Osilat adjacent. Well, I mean shit. It's not like they could give him a deck of cards and rip off of gambit

[00:32:57]
They had to do something

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Put it past them if i'm honest with you

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Get out of the card

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Be amazing

[00:33:05]
But i'm gonna be honest that I know we don't make it as a strategy guide

[00:33:08]
But my my main thing was if I go into like a fight I do my best to have stun grenades and they are

[00:33:14]
So helpful like you can almost win anyway

[00:33:17]
As long as you stun him because he is still a human like his reflexes are fast, but

[00:33:22]
A grenade's gonna work no matter how fast your reflexes are. That's true

[00:33:27]
So I like that. So yeah, man. So not an unceremonious fight. I I I like this whole chat the fight

[00:33:33]
we beat gene

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And he sort of admits that obviously in his defeat that snake big boss is the true

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successor

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And he basically gives snake a bunch of money that he amassed to make armies heaven like he just sort of says like here's the ropes kid

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and uh

[00:33:54]
He does do the whole I already you know, I already put in the

[00:33:58]
coordinates

[00:33:59]
For the metal gear like you can't stop it. There's nothing you can do about it

[00:34:03]
It's I I we're I we're past the ending already my fight with you was to distract you

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and uh

[00:34:09]
It's pretty funny how I was like, okay, and they just shoot a bazooka at it

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That's the answer it's not bad

[00:34:20]
So what do you uh, what do you think about like so after all this shit we just said gene

[00:34:25]
Still sort of saying like hey

[00:34:27]
Maybe i'm an asshole, but my plan's pretty cool. Like it's not a bad plan

[00:34:32]
We should do something like this because aren't you tired of

[00:34:35]
You know being a tool of war

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For someone else kind of a thing

[00:34:39]
So I like that gives him and it has nothing to do with the philosophers money if i'm not mistaken

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It's just all the money he's amassed

[00:34:46]
By being his own thing. So it's like his own

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Some of money that's probably not accounted for somewhere

[00:34:53]
It's got he's got a little checking account. It's been yeah putting 10% his paycheck in there. Yeah slowly building it over time

[00:35:00]
Yeah, you know might have a couple of

[00:35:03]
stocks

[00:35:04]
Yeah, gene's got a pretty diversified portfolio. I would think probably got some real estate

[00:35:09]
Kind of like blue chip stuff real solid investments. Nothing risky

[00:35:14]
Exactly just slow playing it, but just aggressively slow playing. I totally agree. He's a safe guy. It's a safe bet

[00:35:20]
Probably owns a lot of walmart stock

[00:35:23]
Yeah, if I was to think about

[00:35:26]
Mean gene's portfolio. Yeah, think about recession proof, right? Yeah able to to survive any sort of issue where you're gonna go

[00:35:33]
Walmart that's why he invested

[00:35:36]
So we're gonna talk to gene about he gets a great deal on all this

[00:35:43]
Oh, that's amazing

[00:35:46]
Ah, so yeah, so we blow it out of the sky. It detonates in space

[00:35:51]
I guess after everything and it's it's pretty cool. Oh, they're watching it free fall like I like that that that was that was pretty fun

[00:35:57]
and

[00:35:58]
We're pretty much, you know

[00:35:59]
Nice job. We saved the day and the cia director

[00:36:03]
Is now doing his own thing obviously in some undisclosed location

[00:36:08]
And he's interrupted by

[00:36:10]
Ocelot, which is really the first time we know it's ocelot. We've we've we know ocelots in every game

[00:36:16]
So we're not we're not an idiot and there's been a secret informant like sort of

[00:36:20]
Funneling information to gene and all these other people. So we kind of had an idea but adam

[00:36:25]
Is the triple spry from like he's the triple spy for the philosophers the director has the briefcase

[00:36:31]
He's got the documents. He's got philosophers names the data where the parts are scattered across the world like the legacy

[00:36:37]
and

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He's prepared to take it to a bunker

[00:36:41]
because metal gear was launched in the space so

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The intent is is that no matter what happens the philosophers would survive if the plan succeeded

[00:36:51]
They were always going to be they were always going to be able to keep moving on

[00:36:55]
And ocelot basically goes like is this everything and they're like, yeah, we got him and he just clears the whole room

[00:37:01]
Fucking kills everybody

[00:37:03]
And I the line I like and then I'll let you I'd like to hear your thoughts on it

[00:37:08]
He says he destroys them because they stole quote-unquote and they're not, you know in line with the true

[00:37:15]
the spirit of the true patriot

[00:37:18]
And I kind of like that. Yeah, that's a pretty good line

[00:37:22]
So what do you think of the cia plot with oscelot towards the end here?

[00:37:26]
Uh, I mean it makes sense. You know oscelot is

[00:37:30]
gonna be our sneaky

[00:37:33]
switch agent

[00:37:35]
Um for the whole series really

[00:37:38]
So this is in character for him for sure

[00:37:41]
Um, I think it's it's great that oscelot gets to come up in with gene to

[00:37:48]
Give it. Yeah, you know, I agree

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Yeah, I think that's cool. Um

[00:37:55]
Yeah, and of course like the patriot shadow

[00:38:00]
Whatever this is like totally setting up

[00:38:03]
four, right? If I if I have the timeline correct

[00:38:08]
When this game came out four came out shortly after

[00:38:12]
Yep, you are correct. So so we're headed up to like

[00:38:16]
Really figure out who the patriots were, right, which is we haven't gotten much information on that

[00:38:22]
Since the ending of melior solid 2

[00:38:26]
Right, they were right a very small piece of melior solid 3

[00:38:31]
Just it was more of a setting up the story

[00:38:35]
Explaining to us what the legacy was why it's important and why people are after it

[00:38:41]
But now we're getting into the meat of like the patriots themselves who are

[00:38:48]
Setting up this like

[00:38:50]
The next big event

[00:38:52]
And it's gonna change the world, right? Like we're really not we're just not gonna recognize

[00:38:59]
The world that we come back to after these events

[00:39:02]
Yeah, it's it's good

[00:39:05]
Story stuff, which is what we always have been going back to with this. It feels very especially knowing

[00:39:11]
Everything afterwards now it this is cool. Like this is

[00:39:14]
This is pretty good seeds that are being planted to

[00:39:19]
Establish just what the fuck is going on with

[00:39:23]
This story wise because if you go from three to four, it's pretty bonkers. Like you're like, what the fuck is this like?

[00:39:29]
We were in the jungle now. It's there's like the they sound like cows. They have muscle tissue

[00:39:34]
They're jumping all over it. Like it's just a war zone everywhere all the time getting dropped pretty big

[00:39:39]
by pedal cow robots

[00:39:41]
That have little whips on them

[00:39:44]
Yeah, and and I think I so I think I'm gonna say this here

[00:39:48]
Because I we I know we've all said it and I think it's like the kitschy thing to say but oscelot

[00:39:54]
Really does find a way to be a fucking great character in every game

[00:39:59]
I I tried to like challenge myself to be like, what's the weakest performance of oscelot?

[00:40:04]
And I don't know if I have an answer because I obviously you could say this game, right?

[00:40:08]
But he's in it for such a short time that like you can't really give him crap and he is

[00:40:13]
monumental in

[00:40:15]
affecting the plot and he's got great lines and I love that he's been fucking with everything from the beginning like that's

[00:40:21]
Oscelot's cool, man. I really appreciate like what he does

[00:40:25]
In every game. I I know that he's like remembered but everybody's sort of like he's always like the bronze medal

[00:40:31]
In most people's like rankings, but he's

[00:40:34]
He's really cool, man

[00:40:36]
And he finds way to be interesting in every every game and it's it's just special

[00:40:40]
And I this was the time where I really noticed it, you know oscelot's probably one of the more fun characters to write

[00:40:49]
In this series if I was a writer, I would have a lot of fun writing him just because he's so

[00:40:55]
He's so animated, right? Right

[00:40:58]
It's great and motivated like he he has motivation

[00:41:02]
Every time you meet him and even and again three was the funniest thing because in three

[00:41:07]
He's so different than we knew him. He's this young

[00:41:12]
You know hot shot colonel kind of a thing like it's nothing like we have seen him in previous games

[00:41:17]
And it's just interesting. I really like that and for him to like drop that spirit of the true patriot

[00:41:22]
We see the seeds are being planted for the patriots, which we'll learn about later

[00:41:27]
And uh, so yeah

[00:41:29]
All is well snake makes it out. We we have won the day and the philosophers are not going to be able to pull their bullshit

[00:41:36]
In the future, so we'll learn about future, you know issues, but fox's rebellion was covered up

[00:41:43]
And camble which again an awesome performance. He confirms that snake is one hell of a hero

[00:41:50]
And snake learns to fight for what he believes in so this is where we're finally

[00:41:58]
Snake makes a massive move of not just trying to make mom happy, right?

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He now

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Trust himself to make his own honestly in his own way

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I I can't really vouch for because we talk about this every season the will of the boss

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I do think when it comes to snake

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The will of the boss for the snake is for him to stand for what he believes in

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Regardless of what that is. I do feel like there is some decent closure

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He doesn't have to mention her but you can tell that he has resolve

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He has

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moved forward from really this is the last time I know they're gonna bring it up in peace walker and things like that

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But this was like the real time that he has like post-traumatic boss disorder

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You know what I mean?

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boss post-traumatic

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boss disorder

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Yep, what are the symptoms?

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symptoms of that are

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self-doubt

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Probably probably can't sleep well would be a guess of mine

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Probably mood swings would be my guess heavy drinking maybe out dependence on substance. You think twitchiness?

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Maybe uh, I don't know. He's

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Fidgets with his gun so much

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He could so you're right because maybe the sneaking suit like masks some of that because it makes like calms his body down

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That's that's a good point. Yeah, I think I think that's a thing

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But I liked it if it feels it did feel like a way for like all right the snake

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We knew is getting much closer to the snake. We know

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in previous games

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And it felt pretty logical. It didn't feel

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Forced it felt like the game was building towards that and you know going back what we know about

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Outer heaven and all that we get it. We see why big bosses the way he is

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that's

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That's pretty bomb and we see a fox dossier on snakes bedside

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Is he back? I don't know. We'll see

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Gray fox is a wreck

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We have no idea if he'll ever recover. I mean, we kind of have an idea

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Yeah, I think we have an idea. Is he gonna recover? Yeah, we kind of have an idea. That's not true statement

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Uh, we have the the benefit of

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Having been to the future already

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Right like three to four games that include him in some way or another. Yeah, so what do you think?

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Uh, like I said, we don't have to do final thoughts as far as like how it involves everything anything more than what we've discussed

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But like as an ending story bits

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Everything how do you feel about the ending of this game? It's really solid. Honestly like this game does not waste

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Any of its breath when it was telling a story?

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I love how

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Right from the silo and the game picks up pace

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It carries you right through which is great for this game, right? Because it's it's been designed as such a pickup put down thing

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Up into that point that you really need some sort of like big

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Climactic moment to carry you through the ending and finish the story off

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So I'm glad that they decided to get

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away from like sort of the rhythm

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the gameplay loop that you have

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To throw a bunch of like boss gauntlets at you and finish out the story in a really strong way

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I like that. Yeah, it's good. Uh, like I said, I I

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Think the progression it feels pretty good and we've picked apart this game in so many ways

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But story was something we always sort of said

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That's you know, and they lean on it. They know it's a strength and they paid attention to it and for what it's worth

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the design of the game was

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Understood they had to that was they had a big challenge. They did

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And we'll we'll talk about that when we get to the listener response

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But I'm interested to see a few of them. I've read a few of the responses already

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There's some fun ones in there. I'm gonna be honest with you. Yeah, so we get to the after credits

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We know it's coming right credits roll

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We know we're expecting a phone call or something. We hear a phone ring

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and oscilat

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Picks up the phone. We know it's him from the voice

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And he's being given like really great intel

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That even gene was confused about

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And oscilat is on the phone with his informant. So someone's been giving oscilat the advantage to

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What information to feed everybody throughout the game? And he's talking about genes

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genome soldiers

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creating the perfect soldier

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And when they have the ability to do that

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They establish

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the patriots

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Which is pretty fucking bomb

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Now with the code name chat

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They talk about I think he says something like someone, you know, know who shares a code name with yourself kind of a thing and

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We are we kind of get the vibe. We are aware that major zero was

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basically channeling this information through oscilat

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To establish the patriots and this here now we can talk about this because it ties in with melgiosolat 4

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I think we can talk about this a little bit

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This is pretty cool that this is the game because I don't remember this

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This is the game that establishes the major zero is like

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The big bad for the fucking series at the end of the day, right? At least as far as emotionally

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What do you think of this? I think this is a pretty dope

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Uh of the call scenes because there's some good ones the mr. President is pretty fucking bomb

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But this one's pretty good. Like I like this. What do you think about this after credit?

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Yeah, I liked it. Um, you know, this is like

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More hype to me than the marvel post-credits scenes

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So I I love the the phone call

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Uh, I don't know if you'd call it like a cold cut or what the term would be. I'm not educated in that way, but

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Yeah, the the little

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Almost like a spoiler setting up like a teaser that's like, oh shit. Well, what's gonna happen in in next time in the middle of your universe

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Um, yeah, these are great little

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Comic-y bits that I feel are just so over the top in the way that they try to like do this

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Mission impossible

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clandestine spy thing

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and tell that story

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But it's it's perfect. It's kitschy. I love it

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I

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Agree I and I I know we I love them all but it was kind of refreshing after playing that'll get solid three

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Which was like super not that it was confusing but

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Eva was working for the Chinese and she didn't get the right half

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So now the other half it like there was a lot of stuff going on. This is pretty

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Cut and dry like it's the the mystery is who's talking to oscilat

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But they do sort of tell us like they do and it's

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How fucking cool is that that it they what they the choices they make in metal gear solid 4 story wise for that ending

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And that's the fucking stinger from the previous game. That's fucking cool

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Like I when you think about it, they set up zero and then the next fucking game story wise

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Which is the end quote unquote of the saga to turn it into that outro with the end blank blank is major's and you're like what?

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Big boss shows up. It's that's it's cool, man

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I got I got a little goose bumpy about it when I was just like this is fucking cool

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Really dug this

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Yeah, me too. It was it was awesome. I really loved it

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Yeah, this this whole thing justified like

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Uh, I don't think we have to argue about canon and all that we've definitely talked a ton about it in the discord with the patrons and stuff

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But it's stuff like this it's moments like these where I'm like, I don't

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It is canon to me like this was this justified itself completely this fucking story was awesome

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Like this was fantastic. Even if I want to pick apart some of the gameplay, but

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I can't if someone were to ask me the story of metal gear

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I would have to include portable ops in my outline, right the some of the stuff that happens in this it establishes some pretty fucking

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Big deals major zero is massive

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And he I know he's exists prior, but he is

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Involved starting at portable ops, which is like the second in the timeline like it's crazy how long they

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Pay attention to this that's good writing. I think that's that's good stuff and I I like that

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so

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uh before we

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Before we close out. Sorry. It's a little shorter guys, but uh, it was tough to pace this out and with the boss fights

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I tried to make this make sense for everyone when it came to it

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I mean, it's still a pretty full up here

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But uh, we just we didn't we didn't want to uh rush anything or make anything too crazy long and crazy short

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But to get through these I mean the game really ramped up in pacing for the last like two hours of the game

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At least in my experience the last two hours or what we just talked about

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Um, do you have any final thoughts that aren't just like to involve conversation?

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But before we as far as story is concerned

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We are wrapping up

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Portable ops. We are through our second game. Yeah in our long

[00:51:09]
timeline that we have established in this

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MGM are yeah middle gear pocket monster edition was great. Uh, I

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I joke but you know, it it was a great little slice of the middle gear universe to to play through

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And the story if you if you haven't played this game

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You should check it out just for the story alone

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Um, definitely the gameplay if you've not played it before

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You're gonna go back to it. It's gonna be dated and you're gonna be thinking that the whole time

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Uh, but just power through it

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And this the last two hours that we covered in this episode this alone is worth the price of admission

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Agreed. I totally agree. It's kind of why I like that. This is a concise episode because this

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This is a great

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Like if I were to pick our episodes going back like maybe the opening and the outro would be enough to like just go back

[00:52:05]
You probably don't have to you know, re-listen to everything if you wanted to but I love this is the stuff

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That's like really good and for anybody that was wanting to hear Tori

[00:52:14]
And her thoughts on the ending and all that trust and believe guys when we get to the listener episodes

[00:52:20]
We will have this out

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So we'll be able to make sure that she gets asked the same questions because

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We have talked obviously off mic about all the stuff

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But I have been going out of my way to not know how everybody feels about the games until we get to recording the episodes

[00:52:33]
Because it makes for more fun of a conversation. So I don't actually know

[00:52:38]
Tori's exact thoughts on how she feels about this game by the time she gets to the end of it

[00:52:42]
I know how she generally feels about metal gear. She tends to be more positive and forgiving of some of faults

[00:52:49]
But when we get to the listener response

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Uh, I will make sure that in some way shape or form

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I want to make sure she gets to answer some of these questions because I know she wants to answer them

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So yeah, man, we have finished

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Our second game in the long timeline that we have established and we have wrapped up not only another episode

[00:53:10]
But another game for metal gear monday's revisions

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Guys, thank you for listening two seasons down wherever you guys are grabbing our stuff

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contact at metal gear monday's

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for 2069 uh

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Thanks again guys a ton for the patrons

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[00:53:45]
Easier said than done to just be able to have free cash to throw around and for the community that we do have

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I feel good. This was a great way to end

[00:54:24]
This one this one didn't feel really drawn out or anything like that. I had a really good time with this

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I thought this was gonna be like a dark spot in

[00:54:31]
The timeline and we might have a couple in the future, but

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I I had a good time with this and I'm like super thankful

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For still being a host here and even being offered last year or whenever I was been part of this crew

[00:54:45]
But this was this was a fun one. I really had a good time and thank you to everyone who listens. Thank you to the patrons

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And thank you chris and tory but chris and you're here. Where can people find you on the internet and what else you got?

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uh, you can just go to metal gear monday's dot com

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and

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Or hop in the discord say hi

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at proto dude

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that's uh

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Gonna be all my gamer tag stuff

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and yeah

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Just uh instead of checking me out though. You should just get this game and check it out

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I like it. That's a good point man's got a point

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And yeah, you can find me at warren minix across all the things

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I am untaggable gamer if you're into gamer tags, although i'm not really an online player per se

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Um, but yeah, you can catch me in the discord

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I usually do the film stuff and I talk too much about music

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So I have to figure that out, but that's my thing

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And uh, yeah big old thanks to everyone again, and I think it is time

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To let it rip jack

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Let it rip

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You