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Here's to you dear listeners and welcome back to another episode of Metal Gear Monday's

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Revengeance.

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Today is a special sort of one-off episode as the red alert went off and some Metal Gear

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news has hit our dossiers.

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Oscar Isaac was cast as Solid Snake in the Metal Gear Solid film, so obviously we need

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to give this some discussion.

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Now I'm not going to do this alone, with me as always is our casting director, Ms.

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Tori Cortez.

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How we doing?

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Ooh, I like that.

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I'm a casting director.

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We'll see.

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And then unfortunately, so we're subbing in for Chris tonight.

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He's on a film location scouting mission.

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So we have Alessio, ghost dad himself, Summerfield joining in as well.

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Glad to have you back, man.

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What's up?

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Due to SAG regulations, I'm actually going to have to go by Christopher Fritz for this

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episode.

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As a and credit.

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Yeah, of course.

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So yeah, so here's what I'll say.

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We're here to talk about the casting of the film because it seems to be the good idea

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to fancast.

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I think there's a little bit more than just like going down the list right now.

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I do want to just have a mini discussion about, so Oscar Isaac is in the Metal Gear Solid

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film.

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Do we all sort of agree that it's Metal Gear Solid?

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They should follow the first film.

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Alessio, how do you feel about that?

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That's what I want them to do.

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What I'm worried that they're going to do is that it's going to be an original story

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set in the Metal Gear universe.

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Like I, yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know how to describe it.

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I feel like if the choices were an original story or an amalgam of all the stories, I

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think I would rather go with some sort of amalgam.

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But if we could pick one game, I think Metal Gear Solid 1 makes the most sense.

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Yeah.

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Now, see, I don't understand why they wouldn't open themselves up to make the whole series.

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You know, if they're going to really milk this thing for what it's worth and they could,

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they'd better not, you know, crunch it all up into one.

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That's actually my hugest pet peeve with movies that are adapted from any other series.

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I think it's due to money.

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It's a bunch of executives in an office telling themselves that no one will ever pay to see

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a second one.

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Because it just happened with Annihilation, the film that Natalie Portman and Oscar Isaac

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ran.

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Yeah.

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Well, there's three books and they just made the one movie and they literally came out

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and said like before it even came out, they were like, we have no intentions of making

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the second and third.

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So yeah, I don't know.

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I think it's just like a production standpoint of like, well, if we put 150 million in, if

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every time a sequel comes out, if it's going to sell worse and worse, is it worth the investment

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kind of a deal?

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Yeah, I guess not.

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So now do you think that they're going to like pull a ride on us and say that it's Metal Gear

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Solid and then like whiplash it's a flash forward and it's Metal Gear Solid 2 out of

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nowhere?

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Oh, that'd be amazing.

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That'd be super meta if they did that.

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They're like jokes on you punks.

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It's Metal Gear acid, the movie.

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Get dunked.

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It's just a top down camera of people playing card games.

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Oh, God, it's great.

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So obviously we have our boy Oscar who is cast and we just went over and sort of agreed

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on the main cast that is the Metal Gear Solid movie.

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So we're going to agree that this is going to be a movie based on the video game Metal

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Gear Solid.

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So there will be no major zeros, well, technically Siggins and some other characters in there.

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So we're going to basically go right down the list and basically do our dream casting.

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We can maybe give a little bit of flavor text, but maybe as we get through a few of these,

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maybe there'll be some indulging on why you think someone would act well, maybe based

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off of another character who they're who they're kind of going by.

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So I think the easiest way to do it is we sort of round robin it, we'll just pick a

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character, discuss who our person is and maybe a little bit of flavor text why and then we'll

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just keep kind of going down.

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Does that seem to make the most sense for you guys?

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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I think when we're done, what we should do as well is cast the 1987 MSX Metal Gear cast

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because, you know, I'm dying to see what machine gunner.

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Who would you guys cast as machine gunner?

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Well, we obviously know who my Solid Snake is.

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It's Michael Bean, obviously.

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I love it.

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All right.

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Well, then I would say if without further ado, if you guys are cool for it, there's

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anything else you want to say before we get started, I would say the floor is open to

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either of you.

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I want to make a quick correction.

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It's machine gun kid.

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I don't want to be fought over my.

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I already heard the Twitter police like freaking out.

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Some dude with like a bloody with like a bloody Brad tattoo is like already like polishing

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a pistol off in my alleyway by my apartment.

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He's scratching off your name with lipstick.

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Oh, God.

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Yeah. Sorry about that.

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I misspoke, please.

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Hey, it's cool, man.

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I'm on this show again for like all of five minutes and already put both my feet directly

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into my face.

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Yeah.

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Let's see.

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When this recording is done, we're going to have to have a quick chat.

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You got time for a little roundup when we're done here.

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We need to just figure out some back of the house stuff, if that's OK with you.

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Warren's going to hit me.

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OK, Metal Gear Solid, the film.

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And I'm going to say I'm actually going with starring Oscar Isaac.

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So I tried to be a little bit more understanding that Oscar Isaac is cast.

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I will tell you when we get to it who my person would have been.

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But I'm going to say that Oscar Isaac and I'm kind of going off that.

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So maybe based on his age or something like that, I would say.

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I'm going to start with Colonel Campbell, if that's OK with everyone here.

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I think they're going to stunt cast.

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And I would say like a Denzel Washington.

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I guess filled with that.

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I didn't go there personally, but I also guess I wouldn't be surprised.

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Yeah, I got a question for you guys, because that brings up a very interesting point.

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I think Denzel would be a killer Colonel Campbell, but I think that brings up an

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interesting point.

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Do you guys think that the Metal Gear

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fans that exist on the Internet are going to throw a shit fit if anyone gets

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cast as a different race than what they are in the game?

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God, I hope this is my plea to you guys.

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Please don't.

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Mother Tory has spoken.

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Yeah, I mean, and like I threw in a sub, like maybe like a Tom Beringer would kill it.

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But I just feel like it's great stunt casting and he needs to do it.

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And with his, you know, I feel like him and Zero kind of have like their hearts

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there, even though they're obviously just kind of shitty.

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But he just plays such a good like you want to be on his side kind of character.

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Yeah, it would definitely be my my baby Campbell.

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If I had to do it, I can almost see this is a not this is not who I cast,

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but just as part of this conversation.

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I could almost see to like them doing like a zazzy beats is a sniper wolf kind of a thing.

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You know what I mean?

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Like and I think that would be cool.

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But like I also feel like we're going to get a lot of Ghostbusters all all women cast

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like shit shitty bad takes if if anybody changes color.

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If you know what I mean?

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Sure. I don't know.

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It's interesting.

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The keyboard armies are there.

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Anyway, sorry, I just want to get that.

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I just want to clear that shoot that shot into the air.

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All right. What do you got, Tory, for Campbell?

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So this was based mostly in his voice.

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But then I thought about it and and thought maybe he could do this role justice as well.

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And I cast Mike Ermentrout from Breaking Bad.

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Why don't I remember his name?

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It's my guess. Oh, his real name.

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Yes, real name.

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Let me go to the Internet to Jonathan Banks.

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Jonathan Banks, that's his name.

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Yeah, he's a super cool guy.

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Yeah, he's great.

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That's a great pick.

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He definitely strikes me as a seem some shit, man.

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Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking, too.

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Mike Ermentrout, I like that.

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I had just for some reason now that's the only I guess that is

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like kind of his fault, but I always think of him as Mike Ermentrout.

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Like I don't call him by his actor name ever.

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Have you guys seen the scene in Better Call Saul,

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where it's him and the dude who plays Trevor from GTA?

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Like getting in each other's grill.

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It's a very, very funny scene.

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No, but I want to see my clips of it, but I didn't watch it like from the show.

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Yeah, it's like Mike recruiting like a dude.

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Yeah, like a dude to ride shotgun on like a sketchy deal.

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And it's just very funny.

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I think it's like first few episodes, maybe maybe first season of Better Call Saul.

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All right, check it out.

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It's dope.

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All right, Alessio, who's your Campbell?

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I don't know why my mind immediately went to this, but like no country

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for old men era, Tommy Lee Jones.

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Yeah.

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Like I almost feel like he'd be too serious for Campbell,

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but I could really see him doing a good job when he like breaks down about Meryl.

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I was just going to say that.

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Yeah, I was going to he could probably pull off the metal gear solid piece

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of it pretty comfortably, though. For sure.

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For sure. That piece.

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He's definitely got chops.

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I'll give him that.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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Jones now I'm trying to like tweak and like how I'm excited to hear the rest

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of your cast now, like how it plays off of Tommy Lee Jones playing Campbell.

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All right, so there we go.

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So we have our Campbell across the board.

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I guess that I tried to go in somewhat of a I think I went kind of in

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alphabetical order here.

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DeCoy Octopus is next on my list.

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And I chose Jackie Earl Haley.

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If anybody doesn't know him by his actor name, he played Rorschach

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in The Watchman, as in the movie.

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He's just done like a lot of bit stuff.

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The thing I hate him the most in is he was the new Freddie in the newest

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nightmare. Oh, interesting.

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Not his fault, I would say.

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It was just a bad concept for the character.

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But he just does really great sort of like one off work where he just has to

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do like one thing really well.

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He's really good at that.

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And he strikes me as a he can like, I don't know, I guess I could say that

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like the way he can like pull off that you barely know this character,

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you know, nothing of them that he could sort of pull off like, who is this?

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Like he looks like he's simultaneously 40 and 80 for like 30 years now.

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So I feel like someone like that could sort of sell that.

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He's so good at blending in.

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That looking at his cast list, I have seen these films and did not even know

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he was in them.

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Alina Battle Angel, Robocop, Shutter Island,

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like the list just like goes on and on like the dude's invisible, I feel like.

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Yeah, he's he's really good, man.

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And there's a lot of stuff that like people want to sort of pick on him for

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certain things. But when you really like break it down to what he's in, he's he's

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good, man. He can really pull off the character stuff almost as good as anybody

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that would be in his league, I guess.

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Hell, yeah. So what about you, Tori?

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Decoi Octopus?

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I actually like Jackie Earl Haley for Psycho Mantis now that you've brought him up.

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Oh, you think he could do the voice, though?

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Yeah, that's my only downfall.

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I like him for the look of Psycho Mantis.

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So my Decoi Octopus slash Donald Anderson.

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And I don't know why.

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I really don't know why.

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I just Idris Elba came to mind.

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I just feel like again, it was mostly in the voice.

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Donald Anderson slash Decoi Octopus in that game had a like a full rich

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deep voice that I really, I don't know, I guess stuck with me.

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And it just put Idris Elba in my brain.

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So.

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Oh, so you're going like essentially the route of like, we never ever see Decoi

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Octopus, we only see him like as the Darpeche.

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Yeah, because that's the only frame of reference I have.

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I mean, mm hmm.

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Yeah, I guess she's what you see that dopes like Shinji Mikami artwork of him.

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But it's still him or her, I guess, really.

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You don't know anything about him.

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Yeah, I feel like I may be misremembering this and maybe I can do a little

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Internet slew thing while we go.

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But I swear to God, I feel like you can see him for like

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from like the back of his head in like a random cut scene in MGS.

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Oh, wait, I just isn't there a brief even from his front, just flash of like,

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I would have to show this to you guys.

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Hang on. I don't even.

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I think he shapes, but it's in the torture scene, right?

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Well, I'm thinking of twin snakes.

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I think there's definitely a thing where they do like a flash of, you know,

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they killed, you know, they basically killed the DARPA chief.

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And I think psychomantis is in the room when they sort of say that.

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But he's he or she is not even like in focus, like they are.

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Yeah, so this frame at all.

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Yeah, you see the back.

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Right. In the discord is the one I'm thinking of.

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Yeah, I think there's also a quick like it's one of the quick like little

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like cut scene, like shot, shot, shot with the little like weird zooming in sound.

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I think there's like a quick cut of him and in whenever Vulcan comes to

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to like pick him up out of the cell.

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Sure. I think in the original PS1 game.

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But yeah, anyway, I mean, it doesn't matter if you see see them or not.

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But I also, thanks to some random poking around, I never realized

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that a decoy octopus is Mexican nationality.

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Really? Really?

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Something new. Yeah.

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I don't know where that info came from, but I don't even that's definitely

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not in the original guide.

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Like apparently Metal Gear Asset 2 has a decoy octopus card description

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that says a member of the newly reformed Foxhound, a master of disguise

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originally from Mexico. Oh my God. There we go.

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They're well justified. There we go.

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Got to play Asset 2 now. I'm sure it's in our list.

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It's crazy. That's awesome.

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What a fun little tin bit.

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It's fantastic.

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I love that stuff.

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I'm going to do like bar Metal Gear trivia and piss everybody off.

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And be like, what nationality was?

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So what about you, Alessia?

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Who do you got for decoy octopus?

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It would have to be Ishmael from Metal Gear Solid 5.

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No, I'm kidding.

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It would.

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A tip of the hat to Tori's tin foil had her image that she just sent us.

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So my decoy octopus pick and I'm going to screw up the pronunciation hard.

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It's it's Ralph Fiennes, right?

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Ray Fiennes.

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Ray Fiennes. That's right.

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OK, I knew that the name is always screwed up.

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Anyway, Voldemort from Harry Potter, essentially.

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Sure. Because like what a stunt casting.

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What a stunt cast right there for decoy octopus.

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Yeah, dude, just give him just give him that same makeup.

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And we'll call it a day.

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That's great. He's good, though.

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Like he's a fantastic actor.

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So yeah, for sure.

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I love the chops are there.

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I love that we're casting huge names for people who appear in this movie or game

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for all of like five minutes.

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Hey, I picked I picked character actor.

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I'm going as functional as I can here.

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I'm trying to be the the budget supervisor of this.

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Yeah, for sure.

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For sure. Line producer Warren.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And the key grip.

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All right.

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Gray Fox is who's next on my list.

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And I kind of went more for known for action versus acting,

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just because they obviously can just be in a suit per se.

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I went with Scott Atkins.

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If anybody is familiar with Scott Atkins,

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he is sort of known for like offbeat action films.

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But I would say if anybody wants to just do like a quick little internet search,

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he's got a pretty dope.

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Oh, my God, audition reel for Batman.

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That's great. He was in Pink Panther.

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Amazing.

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He I guess he's in a bunch of born movies, too.

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Yes, he's always like the assassin in a movie or something.

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He's never like the main unless it's like an offbeat film, obviously.

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Oh, he's in Zero Dark 30.

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Yeah, he like he's he's got some good stuff in there.

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And he clearly has the chops.

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He's in great shape.

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Like he would totally justify someone that sort of, you know,

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disassociates themselves with probably who they actually are,

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just because he's just sort of this like forgotten action star kind of a thing.

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But he can hold his own.

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And I guess that I've been pretty impressed with like he just seems to get passed over.

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Like I said, some of his audition tapes are pretty solid, if I'm being honest.

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And he doesn't really get the credit that he probably gets in some of the films he's actually in.

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But he'd probably be cheap.

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So I'd go for him and my backup plan would be Ray Park, who was Darth Maul.

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Also, Scott Atkins' child is named Carmel.

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So bonus points.

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Beautiful. And I'm not mispronouncing Caramel.

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It's just their name is Carmel.

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Also, you could totally paint Scott Atkins hair white and give him a red bandana.

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And he would be Gray Fox or Metal Gear 2.

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So I could absolutely see it.

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Yeah, he really fit like the overall package of Gray Fox.

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I'm going to die when all of Warren's casting is just straight up the casting of the movie.

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Yeah, I'm trying to be as like so so focused as possible.

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Do you guys think as a quick aside, do you guys think that the casting director for this film

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saw the Internet explode with fan casting and just downloaded as many of them as they could

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and just they're leafing through them for their own picks?

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I mean, maybe. But some of them are pretty bold.

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Right. I don't know if like at least I did some of my own sleuthing just so I could have sort of an informed choice.

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But I don't know. Some of these are like pretty wild.

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I was like, how can you they're not going to be able to afford some of these people?

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Yeah, such a non role, you know, they mean just because they look like them in a shot.

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Yeah. And I hate to say it, too. I mean, I know it's a Sony film and I know

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obviously it has cultural cache for a very certain group of people.

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But like, I really don't think this movie is going to have more than like a hundred million dollars for a budget like revenue or budget.

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And even a hundred million dollars. I can't imagine.

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No, and like for budget. That's too much.

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I mean, even like a much.

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Yeah, and even like a well, a hundred million is like the same budget that like

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what am I thinking of that the the thing sequel from 2012 had or excuse me, the thing prequel from 20.

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No way.

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It got a hundred million dollar budget to make that.

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Yeah. And when that's the thing is like, we don't really have a lot of middle class movies anymore.

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So it's like, I think for something like this, it's like, they're going to have a big CG budget.

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They're going to have a big marketing budget.

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But I think the actual budget for the film itself probably will sit somewhere between like,

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I'd say 85 and 125 million dollars.

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So it's like, for all intents and purposes, this is going to be like a double A movie.

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Yeah. Like, yeah, this is going to be beefier than

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beefier than, you know, a 10, 20 million dollar movie where like that's

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I think that's going to happen more often now with studios just because the way things are going.

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Yeah. And the probably a lot more dialogue stuff, too.

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Where it's just like two people talking, marriage story, 20 million dollars.

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Screw it. Yeah.

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So we'll see, though. Yeah.

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But I would say max 100 mil.

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I totally agree with you.

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I don't I don't see this being like a powerhouse where they're just dropping every penny.

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Yeah. And in video game money, that's bullshit.

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Like fucking death stranding costs like 500 or 300 million dollars.

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Like, I know.

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Well, that's right.

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This movie is going to cost $60 to go say so.

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Seventy if you want to.

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Seventy nine ninety nine.

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Yeah.

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What do you have for Gray Fox, Tori?

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So this one, like the other so far, has been all in the voice, especially because

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of my pick, I kind of feel silly about this, actually, is Ian Hart,

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who voiced Voldemort in The Sorcerer's Stone.

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He had that that real.

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Graspy, the stone that.

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Oh, this guy.

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I love that you're all great.

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I'll audible casting because they.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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So you can't see him in person.

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You just get a phone call.

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Like you sound like the guy.

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Get him in our movie.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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Some of my choices, I felt like we're better representative of could this person

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actually portray the character?

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But this one, I got to say, was just all how he sounds.

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I'll see if I can get you like a cut of like bone and sinew from him.

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Super weird.

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I recognize this guy off the bat, didn't know why, scrolled through his filmography

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and 1998's enemy of the state is why I recognize this.

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Me too. Oh, yeah.

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He was one of the like the goons, right?

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He was like one of the CIA goons.

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Yeah, nice.

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Yeah, opposite Barry Pepper and Jack Black.

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Oh, I forgot Jack Black's in that movie.

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Who's the other one?

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Jack Black, Barry Pepper.

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Who's who's like the not funny guy, but funny, a Jimmy Kennedy.

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Oh, right.

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Jimmy Kennedy's in that.

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What? Hold up. Regina King.

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Regina King. Yeah.

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That's his wife.

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Yeah, she's. Oh, my God.

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I completely did not know that.

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Oh, go back to I got to go back.

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Yeah, it's a really good movie.

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And we have to go back in it.

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Oh, I love Gene Hackman.

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Yeah, he's great.

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He's so good in that movie.

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I had a weird dream.

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I may have talked about this on the show at some point.

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I don't even know what I have said and have not said at this point.

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I had a very bizarre, super realistic dream that me and Gene Hackman

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were at a pool party in his backyard shooting the shit for two hours over drinks

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when I was 12 years old.

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So I have a lot of affection for Gene Hackman.

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Like I woke up and told my parents and my mom was like, why?

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Like, here's a number you're going to call.

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You see them every Friday for the next 12 weeks to get an assessment.

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Crazy. But hey, Harry,

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Gregson Williams did the music for Enemy of the State.

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So maybe we can get him back for the movie.

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True. Yeah. Of course. Of course.

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I think it was Skrillex.

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So they're like, Skrillex is going to be scoring the medal year.

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Well, that's I'm telling you right now, we we sort of joked about it in the discord.

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And that was I kind of have that at the bottom for me personally.

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Like if I wanted to say something,

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I just get the feeling like Junkie XL or somebody like that is going to do this movie

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if it does come out in like proper time.

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Like obviously, production six years, he's probably not going to be relevant.

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Yeah, I hope they do it.

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But my fear is like I don't want it to be like a weird like

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Dust Brothers Fight Club late 90s, like video game shitty, like hackers score.

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Do you know what I mean? Yes, I 100 percent do.

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Yeah, anyway, it could work in either way.

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It could be like the guy that did Fifth Element score,

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which like futuristic, but great.

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But then he also did the score for Golden Eye and it sounds terrible

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because it's supposed to be like a real world.

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Yeah, it's I feel like I feel like we could have a version of this film

[00:24:26]
that takes itself too seriously.

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And then we could have a version of this film where Oscar Isaac is controlling

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the Nikita with a PS1 controller so that they can so that they can stick in

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goofy comments like press triangle to, you know what I mean?

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Like, oh, no, I hope that I don't know.

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Oscar Isaac can sell a lot of shit for me.

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Oh, for sure. He does some really good stuff here.

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Just so we can, you know, because we have a hard out at some point here.

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Yeah, Jim Houseman is next on my list.

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Oh, hold on. Oh, sorry.

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No, no, no, I just want to get my.

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Gray, it is this is a classic throwback.

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We were just talking about this, man.

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It is the I said, go looking boy.

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Do you mind if I keep this picture that is Robert Patrick?

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Oh, shit. OK.

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I can give you that.

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He definitely has the chops to be like that weirdo.

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Yeah, I was I was trying to think to myself, I was like, who looks like they could be like

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he was he was spry at one point, but now he's super old.

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And like in my in my mind, you would only see his face

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when the mask opened at the end and he has like one of his eyes fucked up and stuff.

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You know, yeah.

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So I don't know. Yeah, like the age, his face or something for the long.

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He had a long run of being like the, you know, henchman three for a while, too.

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So he kind of fits that bill perfectly of like clearly could be something big

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in the future, which is, you know, the whole point of of Gray Fox's.

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He was dope at one point.

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And now he's sort of passed his prime in a suit.

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So for sure, live a miserable life according to him.

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Also, no wonder that man has such a beautiful southern accent.

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He's from Marriott, Georgia. I just realized. Oh, beautiful.

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So thanks. Anyway. All right.

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Jim Hausman, who, you know, kind of a bit part, but still sort of very important

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as far as the mission itself that happens on Shadow Moses.

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Daniel Day-Lewis, dude, obviously.

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So I went with you.

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I went with William Hurt.

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Oh, nice. My actual pick, by the way, was Kurt Russell,

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because I think it'd be a very funny cameo.

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Oh, that's not bad. What do you got, Tori?

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Who's your houseman?

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Can't tell you why, but John Hamm's name popped into my mind.

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Oh, I like that.

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That's not bad. I'm going.

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I'm going for broke, guys. I don't care.

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Can he pull a good mustache off?

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I don't think I've ever seen him with facial hair.

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Yeah, no, I don't think so.

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I don't know if there's much he can't do.

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So I'm going to give him credit, but I went like he looks good.

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Yeah, I went like pull off a mustache first

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and William Hurt like somehow jumped at the top.

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I think it's because he's in the Marvel movies, this Thunderbolt,

[00:27:02]
so he just naturally fits the fills the really quickly.

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Yeah, I don't see any John Hamm with mustache,

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but with beard, he looks great.

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Oh, I've got one.

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Tori is like, let me open my trapper keeper and flip to the 17th.

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And for some reason out of nowhere, John Hamm, Dequi octopus.

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Oh, wow, that's very good.

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It's just all must.

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That's just it's 10 gallon hat, John Hamm.

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10 gallon hat.

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That's loaded. Oh my God.

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Jesus, he's going to drop a country album in like three months.

[00:27:35]
It's awesome. Fantastic.

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All right, another bit part

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as far as Metal Gear Solid is concerned,

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but somebody that needs to have a little bit of staying power

[00:27:43]
because it would be Johnny Suzuki.

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Yes, my pick for this character was Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter himself.

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Oh my God.

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Is it because of the Swiss Army, man?

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A little bit.

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Yeah, Swiss Army was sort of like my litmus test

[00:27:57]
for like he could clearly handle this.

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What about you, Tori?

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Oh, man, I haven't seen that yet, but I am going to.

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At first, mine was Matt Doran or Matt Doran from The Matrix.

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He played Mouse, but then I gave it a little more thought.

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For some reason, came up with Owen Wilson.

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Hey, that's blonde.

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And I like that. That's kind of meme-y.

[00:28:21]
That's sort of meme worthy, but it's still he's I don't know.

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I like I like Owen Wilson like like

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Armageddon, Owen Wilson's pretty fucking fantastic

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and for like a non role.

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Well, you know, you'd have to go.

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You have to say, wow. Wow.

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Well, I was just thinking they'd have to write in some part for

[00:28:40]
he and Meryl to have this just like, I guess we're talking MGS one,

[00:28:44]
but some some dialogue between him and Meryl where he goes, wow.

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Like we'd instead of Snake getting out of the locker

[00:28:54]
where not locker of like the prison cell that

[00:28:57]
Decoy octopus dies in spoilers.

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He gets out and instead of Shizaki like already knocked out in the corner.

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It's we get to see that interaction where she gets out.

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She punches him. He says, wow.

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And then she gets grabbed out and she gets dressed.

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That's what it would be.

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I want a hard to are and I want to see full taint on that Johnny

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Suzuki face down with like a with like a terrible tattoo,

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like lower third ass cheek on the right side.

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100 percent. Yeah. It's mom, too.

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It says mom. Yeah, mom. Mother.

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It's mother, but it's misspelled.

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It's like M O O T H E R.

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Actually, it's Mothra.

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Oh, my God.

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All right, Johnny Suzuki, what about you, Alessio?

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Dude, I said go full meme Lord and make it Adam Driver.

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Oh, my God.

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Full man, muscle meat, super goofy, like the highest

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waisted pants he could ever get.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And the scene that kicked it for me was just like

[00:29:57]
Oscar Isaac looking through the grading down at Johnny,

[00:30:00]
like shitting himself and it's just Adam Driver.

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And Adam Driver is like, God, I'm cold.

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And he's just like sneezing and shitting.

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Dude, yeah. He's I mean, I outlook.

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I love him. He's so good.

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Yeah, he's great. He's so good.

[00:30:16]
Like and he would totally he would like absolutely own this role

[00:30:19]
if they were like, you need to take this seriously

[00:30:20]
because if we make five of these, like you're actually like kind of a big deal.

[00:30:23]
And we could technically put you in every movie.

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Oh, yeah. No, he he takes every part super seriously.

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I love that man.

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Totally agree. All right.

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A big one here.

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Liquid snake.

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So I have recently been on like a I have a man crushed

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is sort of fading, but I still think this guy has the chops and given the time.

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My vote for liquid snake would be Dan Stevens.

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Does anybody know Dan Stevens?

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Did you guys are making me feel like I don't know a single actor?

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So Dan Stevens, I know a reason why I say this is I recently have brought

[00:31:03]
like an underrated movie to a podcast and the guest that came out in 2014.

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He's so good in that movie where he's

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sort of a super charming terminator, let's just say.

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But he played the beast.

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Yeah, he played the beast and Beauty and the Beast.

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He's in Downton Abbey. Yeah, he's got a lot of chops.

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Oh, I've seen a picture of him in Downton Abbey.

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That's why he looks familiar.

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Yeah. And he's incredibly handsome.

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Blonde, you know, has a little bit of a British accent, but can definitely turn it off.

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Is he the lead in Legion?

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Yes. Yeah, he's the lead in Legion.

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Yep. OK, cool.

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But he's fantastic. He definitely has the chops.

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I don't know if it's for him.

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I think it's a little bit of when I say fan casting.

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Dan Stevens is really high on my list, even if his stock is sort of waning

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as he's part of the Disney machine that eventually will just make people

[00:31:50]
not remember that they're good actors.

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Well, hey, but maybe that's all the reason for him to never mind.

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I was going to say, that's all the reason for him to take on this great film.

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Oh, wait, it's a video game.

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Yeah, it's another franchise film.

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But I could see him like owning a lot of his stuff there.

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I'd be really down to see him.

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All right. I think he could.

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And he's handsome just like Oscar Isaacs.

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Perfectly fucking fits.

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What do you got, Tori?

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Liquid snake.

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I forgot Mr. Kingslayer himself, Nikolai Kosterwaldo.

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That is a very good decision, I think.

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Thank you. That's a good one.

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He's got that.

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He's got a really smoky voice, but I don't want to use that against him

[00:32:24]
because I think he could be anything so good.

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Yeah, I bet he could alter his voice enough.

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He was my pick for Joel, too.

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Oh, nice. If they did the last of us thing, I was like, man,

[00:32:35]
you can pull off like there's the scene where he's in like the tub

[00:32:38]
in Game of Thrones, where he's got like the like he's all fucked up

[00:32:41]
and he's talking about like how rough it was being like part of the King's army.

[00:32:45]
I was like, oh, shit, that's Joel.

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Like, oh my God.

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So so last of us on HBO did get green lit.

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I guess. So yeah, it could be drops.

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Yeah, but that would be dope if it got to it.

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What about you, Alessio? Liquid.

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Dude, I don't know. Liquid.

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I don't I don't know why.

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I went Michael Fassbender so hard.

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No, he's great. He could do it. He's a great villain.

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I don't know. I can't imagine him.

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And maybe it's just because I've been watching Prometheus and Covenant

[00:33:15]
as of recently with him in it.

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But I I don't know if he could do the long hair,

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but I know he could do the charisma really well.

[00:33:25]
There there has to be something he's got half half long hair.

[00:33:28]
He doesn't always do the buzz cut thing, right?

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Yeah, let me see if I can find a picture of him.

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Oh, hell, yeah, he could totally rock it.

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Yeah, just didn't have like longer hair and shame.

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I don't want to like draw attention to that.

[00:33:39]
It's a good movie, but it's just a sad movie.

[00:33:42]
I guess there's a movie called The Devil's Horror.

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Oh, boy, that he's got long hair that I'm seeing.

[00:33:47]
It looks like a medieval like a medieval film.

[00:33:50]
Well, definitely sounds like something that's going to send you that picture.

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It looks really good. It's almost like that's just liquid.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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It there it is. Liquid. Liquid.

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All right, moving on.

[00:34:05]
Mei Ling, our our favorite little Kota caller.

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So I think Tori will like my pick as I went with Ellen Wong because

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I think Tori also picked that.

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Yeah, she's I've always had a crush on Knives Jow.

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I'm just going to admit that now.

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And you said you also went with that, Tori?

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Oh, hell, yeah.

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Oh, yeah, got it.

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First crossover. That's awesome.

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Look at that.

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What about you, Alessio?

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I'm going to break the streak.

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I went with Karen Fukuhara.

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She's so good.

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Yeah, so I it's weird because like I had her face in mind

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and I knew her as just like, oh, it's that one that one actress from Suicide Squad.

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But you didn't see her face.

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Yeah, no. Well, yeah, exactly.

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But I was like, I swear to God, I was like that actress from Suicide Squad.

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I don't know why I think it should be her.

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And then I looked her up like out of character and I was like, oh, 100 percent.

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Like she looks like she would kill it.

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I was I was waiting for you to make a boys joke where she has no dialogue.

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I haven't seen boys yet.

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Oh, it's good.

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And she's got a good role in that, but she doesn't speak.

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She does eventually a little bit.

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Well, not in spoilers.

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Yeah, OK, it's real integral to the story, whether she speaks.

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Is it? Oh, yeah, I mean, all right.

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I was I was I was I was totally teasing.

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Karen Foucajara is dope, though. That's a great pick.

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That was my my alt.

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I think she's a dope alt for me. Nice. All right.

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Next, Merrill Silverberg.

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Or Silverborough depends if she's Irish.

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I went.

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So this is where I'm going to start like dropping my like my dollars, I feel like.

[00:35:53]
I think that like an Emily Blunt would be good at this role.

[00:35:58]
Oh, interesting.

[00:35:59]
She pulls off the army stuff really well in the movie she's in ever since the

[00:36:02]
choreo and what lived I repeat.

[00:36:06]
Edge of tomorrow, she can definitely pull off like if she has to be bad as she will.

[00:36:10]
I know that's not necessarily Merrill's role in the first movie,

[00:36:14]
but she needs to be able to convince me that she could hold her own when the time comes.

[00:36:18]
So Emily Blunt hits my sweet spot there.

[00:36:21]
What about you, Tori?

[00:36:23]
I've got Carla Gugino for Merrill.

[00:36:27]
You would recognize Carla Gugino,

[00:36:31]
probably first and foremost from Spy Kids.

[00:36:34]
If you know that.

[00:36:35]
If I know you like, I think you do.

[00:36:37]
I love Carla Gugino.

[00:36:39]
No, she just did Gerald's Game.

[00:36:41]
She was in soccer.

[00:36:42]
She was in Sin City.

[00:36:44]
Oh, she was hunting a Hill House, the haunting of Blimey.

[00:36:47]
And she was in the Watchmen movie, which is really funny.

[00:36:50]
Oh, nice. We talked about Jackie Rohali.

[00:36:52]
Really? Yeah.

[00:36:52]
Carly Jean is great. I love her as an actress.

[00:36:55]
I love her, too.

[00:36:57]
Love her. Got it.

[00:37:01]
What about you, Alessio?

[00:37:02]
This is I think this is the bomb that Alessio is going to drop.

[00:37:04]
I'm ready. Oh, man, I wish.

[00:37:07]
So mine's super obscure, and I don't know why my mind went to this.

[00:37:11]
But the actress that played Valentina and transporter three.

[00:37:15]
She's not really been in a ton of stuff,

[00:37:17]
but she's just like this red haired Russian girl that Luke Bay Zahn discovered.

[00:37:23]
Her name is Natalia Rudakova.

[00:37:28]
And I just from like a look and attitude perspective,

[00:37:32]
I think she could really kill it, but she doesn't really have.

[00:37:37]
I don't know how to describe it.

[00:37:37]
She doesn't really.

[00:37:39]
She doesn't have like MGS four Meryl vibes to me,

[00:37:42]
but she definitely has like MGS one Meryl like look and attitude.

[00:37:47]
I feel like. Yeah, got you.

[00:37:49]
She definitely has if I remember that movie correctly, too,

[00:37:52]
she's isn't she like the package or whatever?

[00:37:55]
Yeah. So she's definitely got that that rookie

[00:37:59]
kind of situation to her.

[00:38:01]
I don't really recognize a lot of the stuff she's in,

[00:38:02]
but I've seen that movie, so I know who she is.

[00:38:06]
Yeah, she'd be great. I'd be I'd be down for her.

[00:38:09]
Sounds great to me.

[00:38:11]
All right.

[00:38:13]
So I believe I put Naomi Hunter next.

[00:38:17]
And I think I didn't stunt cast per se,

[00:38:20]
but I think I went more on the like.

[00:38:25]
I guess like Metal Gear Solid 4 Hunter.

[00:38:29]
So I just want like a lot of Vava Vavum from her

[00:38:32]
as far as like just how she could like pull off

[00:38:34]
like I'm only wearing a lab coat kind of a thing.

[00:38:37]
But obviously has.

[00:38:38]
Vava like I wasn't just going to.

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Yeah, I have some research I need you to do under my lab coat.

[00:38:46]
I went with Haley Atwell.

[00:38:48]
Haley Atwell.

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The name sounds very so she she plays Chris Evans's

[00:38:52]
love interest from Captain America.

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She's in she's in a lot of her own stuff,

[00:38:56]
but she's Peggy Carter, which is like, oh, excuse me.

[00:39:00]
Sharon Carter, no, Peggy Carter,

[00:39:02]
because Sharon Carter is her niece.

[00:39:03]
You hear that?

[00:39:05]
It's people sharpening their pitchforks are coming for you.

[00:39:07]
Why?

[00:39:09]
Well, I think they're just excited

[00:39:10]
that I mentioned Haley Atwell in this movie

[00:39:12]
because she would she would kill it.

[00:39:14]
She looks great.

[00:39:15]
She's got chops.

[00:39:17]
She's literally in every Marvel film that I have not seen.

[00:39:20]
Yeah. Well, she's in all she basically

[00:39:21]
is always tied to Steve Rogers.

[00:39:24]
So anytime she older Steve Rogers involved,

[00:39:26]
she is his love interest, but she's pretty convincing.

[00:39:29]
And if I was a super soldier that slept through 100 years,

[00:39:33]
I'd want to go back for her to.

[00:39:35]
Apparently she is currently filming Mission Impossible 7.

[00:39:38]
Yes, I heard that she is casting that

[00:39:39]
and she's going to fucking kill it.

[00:39:42]
Do that's awesome.

[00:39:44]
What do you got, Tori?

[00:39:46]
So this is the first one I couldn't decide on one for.

[00:39:51]
So I've got a tie between Eva Green,

[00:39:53]
who you'll know as the Bond woman from Casino Royale.

[00:39:59]
Oh, yeah, she plays Vesper Lind.

[00:40:01]
That's right.

[00:40:03]
And Kate Siegel, who you'll know from the horror movie Hush

[00:40:07]
or the haunting of Hill House and a minor role

[00:40:11]
in the haunting of Bly Manor.

[00:40:14]
Katie, see, what a hot thing really good.

[00:40:16]
She would be ironically Katie Segal.

[00:40:20]
Is definitely a different person.

[00:40:22]
OK, good. I just wanted to make sure that's where you were going.

[00:40:26]
Well, so Alessia was talking that she's in a lot of scary stuff.

[00:40:28]
She's married to the guy that made Bly Manor and Hush.

[00:40:33]
Flanigan, Mike Flanigan, who does he sleep?

[00:40:36]
So that's why she's in a lot of horror stuff,

[00:40:37]
because he directs them and she's a very good actress.

[00:40:39]
So I agree with that.

[00:40:41]
I agree with that casting completely.

[00:40:43]
She's fantastic.

[00:40:46]
What do you got, Alessia?

[00:40:47]
Let's hear your Naomi.

[00:40:49]
I went I went hard into the original British voice from MGS One.

[00:40:54]
This is a lot of like me casting based on like

[00:40:57]
my 13 or 12 year old brain playing the first game.

[00:41:01]
Kind of like how I imagine these people.

[00:41:03]
Sure. Rachel Weiss is who I was.

[00:41:05]
That's a good choice.

[00:41:08]
I think I think like about a boy, 2002 era,

[00:41:12]
Rachel Weiss would probably be perfect.

[00:41:13]
I feel like modern like lobster.

[00:41:16]
Rachel Weiss is kind of getting to the point where like

[00:41:19]
if she was cast, she definitely would be like 20 years older than

[00:41:22]
than Naomi is in the game.

[00:41:24]
But I think she's surprised you didn't go the mummy Rachel Weiss.

[00:41:29]
I forgot about that.

[00:41:30]
Rachel Weiss and Constancy.

[00:41:31]
Here we go again.

[00:41:33]
Oh, yeah, I forgot about I forgot about Constancy.

[00:41:35]
Pre Daniel Craig, Rachel Weiss is like lit for Naomi.

[00:41:38]
Like Naomi Hunter. Yeah.

[00:41:41]
And then post Daniel Craig.

[00:41:42]
She's got chops.

[00:41:46]
She's all about the she's all about not starring in movies like The Mummy.

[00:41:50]
Yeah.

[00:41:53]
So next I have Natasha Romanenko.

[00:41:57]
Now, I tried to like do like a lot of hunting down for like

[00:42:01]
legitimately decent Russian actresses that I maybe had seen in Americanized

[00:42:04]
stuff because I think it'd be really funny for them to be sort of in there.

[00:42:07]
And I had nothing really like blew me away that I knew their work or anything

[00:42:10]
like that. So I didn't want to just go stunt, Cassidy.

[00:42:12]
But I went with a new me, Rapace, as my

[00:42:15]
defer for Natasha.

[00:42:18]
You should know her less.

[00:42:19]
You because you just watched the Alien movies, Prometheus and Covenant.

[00:42:22]
So she's in those movies.

[00:42:24]
She was the girl with the dragon tattoo in the one that isn't the English one.

[00:42:30]
Nice.

[00:42:31]
So yeah, I could dig her.

[00:42:32]
And she clearly like knows a way around a weapon, which makes her perfect for

[00:42:35]
Natasha. I don't know.

[00:42:37]
Her voice always reminds me of Charlie Gainsburg for some reason.

[00:42:40]
Oh, yeah.

[00:42:41]
Sort of that like soft spoken European voice.

[00:42:44]
Sure, sure.

[00:42:46]
What do you got, Tori?

[00:42:47]
Natasha.

[00:42:48]
I have probably nobody is surprised by this.

[00:42:51]
I have Mili Jovovich.

[00:42:54]
Yeah. Oh, nice.

[00:42:55]
I think that's actually a good pick.

[00:42:59]
Yeah, she's I mean, we've heard her do this ridiculous

[00:43:02]
accent as a

[00:43:05]
oh, shit, Katinka in Zoolander.

[00:43:09]
Katinka Ingeburgovina.

[00:43:11]
Nah, I forgot.

[00:43:13]
She's by the way, she is fantastic in those movies.

[00:43:17]
I don't think I've ever realized how many movies Warren watches until right now.

[00:43:21]
And Warren is an encyclopedia.

[00:43:23]
I love. Yeah, for sure.

[00:43:25]
I do my research.

[00:43:27]
All right.

[00:43:29]
All right.

[00:43:30]
What about you, Mr. Alessio?

[00:43:33]
Dude, mine is a super weird curveball pick that would probably piss people off,

[00:43:38]
but would make me very, very happy.

[00:43:41]
I think it would be very funny for this to be like the comic relief character

[00:43:46]
to some extent, because I feel like she was always kind of crazy

[00:43:50]
whenever you would talk to her.

[00:43:52]
I went with Kristen Wiig.

[00:43:55]
Nice. Fuck yeah.

[00:43:57]
I love that. I don't know why.

[00:43:58]
I would it would kill me to just see her in a crazy wig, just chain smoking.

[00:44:02]
And I was going to say the the cigarette,

[00:44:04]
like three quarters hanging out of her mouth.

[00:44:07]
I think that like at all times.

[00:44:08]
Yes, I think that's what would do it.

[00:44:10]
That's a great kid. That's a great pick.

[00:44:12]
Yeah, I like that a lot.

[00:44:14]
Yeah. And that would absolutely be just like comedy, like comedy.

[00:44:17]
Just like and it just be like in the codec.

[00:44:19]
She wouldn't even meet her in person.

[00:44:20]
Like it would be like obvious.

[00:44:22]
Just like hard cut to her like scratching her ass and like not wearing pants.

[00:44:26]
Like in some secluded room, taking a call from Solid Snake.

[00:44:29]
Fantastic. Yeah. Just handguns everywhere.

[00:44:32]
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing.

[00:44:34]
All right. Now we got like a three

[00:44:36]
Pete here of some like massive characters, at least if you go in order here.

[00:44:40]
So I am going with Otacon.

[00:44:44]
So Mr. Emrick himself, I have two and it's depending on how they want to sort

[00:44:48]
of build the relationship between Snake and Otacon.

[00:44:52]
Like if they're trying to go dark and gritty,

[00:44:54]
I have a different person versus if they want to just like sort of stick with

[00:44:56]
the with like the game.

[00:44:58]
If they stick with the game, I like Ben Wishall.

[00:45:02]
And if they want to go a little more serious, I would do a Sillian Murphy.

[00:45:05]
Ooh, Sillian Murphy.

[00:45:07]
Yeah. Now, if you don't know Ben Wishall,

[00:45:10]
he's been in a bunch of like, you know, like Shakespeare plays and things like that.

[00:45:13]
But he actually plays Q in the Bond films.

[00:45:17]
Oh, OK. Nice.

[00:45:19]
So he sort of already has like the, you know, I build computers,

[00:45:23]
you know, that kind of guy.

[00:45:25]
And he's just got he's like Ooz's charisma, but also looks like he's like

[00:45:28]
probably 10 years too young to be in the job he's doing kind of a thing.

[00:45:32]
So he really has that look down if he needs to.

[00:45:35]
He's probably got more charisma than Hal has.

[00:45:40]
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not wrong.

[00:45:42]
But I always took so that you're not wrong there.

[00:45:44]
But like, how does Hal survive?

[00:45:46]
Right. I always feel like he just finds a way to like

[00:45:49]
chat his way out of like one guard too many.

[00:45:52]
That's because Isaac Lim is Hal Emre.

[00:45:54]
Yeah. He's just a heart of gold.

[00:45:57]
Yeah. Yeah. I don't I can't can't do it.

[00:46:02]
It's amazing. What about you, Tori, for Otacon, Mr. Emre?

[00:46:05]
Actually, it's crazy.

[00:46:06]
I had Isaac Lim cast as my Otacon.

[00:46:11]
No, I actually. They couldn't afford.

[00:46:13]
They couldn't afford them.

[00:46:15]
Uh, my actual pick was Nicholas Holt.

[00:46:20]
Yeah. About a boy boy. Oh, shit.

[00:46:22]
Do we go with the same dude? Yeah, we did.

[00:46:24]
Oh, my boy. That's awesome.

[00:46:27]
Good old good old beast from X-Men.

[00:46:29]
Good old Mad Max. Crazy, crazy boy.

[00:46:32]
He's so good in Mad Max, though.

[00:46:34]
Isn't he in Skins, too?

[00:46:36]
The British show, the British. Oh my God. No way.

[00:46:39]
Yeah. Like the lead, I think.

[00:46:41]
I could believe that.

[00:46:41]
I don't know if I've I don't know if I've seen, you know, anything from that, though.

[00:46:45]
But he's I like him. Nicholas Holt's good.

[00:46:48]
Holy shit, that that is him. Wow.

[00:46:50]
Yeah, dude, he's a yeah, I don't know about a boy's on the brain.

[00:46:53]
Go watch it. It's Christmas. It's a good movie.

[00:46:55]
Oh, yeah, true.

[00:46:57]
All right. Next big name here, Psycho Mantis.

[00:47:03]
So obviously, I do truly feel that

[00:47:07]
Doug Jones could could handle this.

[00:47:09]
Doug E. J. would own this fucking role.

[00:47:11]
But you're talking about United States Senator Doug Jones.

[00:47:14]
Oh, correct. Yes.

[00:47:16]
He needs to have well, they got to have that background, right?

[00:47:18]
He's got to, you know, we need some backstory for him.

[00:47:20]
So get him in the government. Yeah.

[00:47:22]
But I wouldn't be surprised or and I'd actually be down if they did Bill

[00:47:25]
Skarsgard, who played it.

[00:47:28]
In the new movies, he's got a little length to him.

[00:47:30]
He can be a little creep.

[00:47:31]
And he's definitely got like the ability to sort of contort and voice himself as needed.

[00:47:37]
All those Skarsgard's just freak me out.

[00:47:40]
They're like way too good at being like creepy sociopath.

[00:47:43]
I know. It's so good.

[00:47:45]
I wanted to find a reason to get

[00:47:46]
Stella Skarsgard in here, but he's just far beyond anything I would put him in with this.

[00:47:51]
But but yeah, so Doug Jones or Bill Skarsgard would be mine,

[00:47:54]
depending on how they feel, but probably to save some bucks.

[00:47:57]
They could probably go with Dougie.

[00:47:59]
What about you, Tori, for Psycho Mantis?

[00:48:03]
The person I couldn't unsee when I thought about this was Adrian Brody.

[00:48:08]
It just. Oh.

[00:48:10]
Once he got in there and my brain was him.

[00:48:13]
That might be the dark horse pick of the entire episode.

[00:48:17]
He is just I could see it.

[00:48:19]
Take it. He would take it crazy.

[00:48:21]
Yeah. His nose is too big to fit in that fucking mask.

[00:48:25]
That's a good point. It's a custom mask.

[00:48:28]
If James, if James Reichmuth were here, he'd just start punching if he heard any of this.

[00:48:34]
Yeah, that's that's a good pick.

[00:48:35]
I mean, he sort of gets a bad rap.

[00:48:36]
I think he's good in some stuff.

[00:48:38]
I think he definitely has the chops if they wanted to sort of because that's the thing, right?

[00:48:41]
When who would they lean on more?

[00:48:44]
Like, because Psycho Mantis, you could market the film off of as like part of the villain group, right?

[00:48:48]
Like if you showed the whole Foxhound unit could be like the poster and all that.

[00:48:53]
And then like sort of snake in the background, I guess.

[00:48:58]
But yeah, I could see that's a good one.

[00:49:00]
But you, Alessio, are we going to have the doubles here?

[00:49:03]
I just went Doug Jones, man.

[00:49:04]
Like he's just too perfect.

[00:49:06]
Like he, I mean, one, I'm in love with Abe Sapien, like in general.

[00:49:10]
But like he's fantastic in that role.

[00:49:12]
But like, yeah, too.

[00:49:13]
It's like, I don't know.

[00:49:14]
Doug Jones looks like looks like he was born to play this role.

[00:49:17]
And in the fucking discord, they know him as the bye bye man.

[00:49:21]
Please stop doing that.

[00:49:23]
Doug Jones has given too much to film for people to remember him as the bye bye man.

[00:49:27]
Oh, the movie's terrible.

[00:49:29]
Not because of him.

[00:49:31]
Oh, I didn't realize.

[00:49:33]
I didn't realize that there was a 2005 remake of the cabinet of Dr.

[00:49:36]
Kelly Gary. I'm going to have to check that out.

[00:49:38]
I didn't know that either.

[00:49:39]
Our boy, Doug Jones. Oh, that's fantastic.

[00:49:41]
I did not know that. Doug Jones played Billy Butcherson.

[00:49:44]
That's neat.

[00:49:46]
You didn't know that?

[00:49:47]
No, I didn't know that.

[00:49:49]
That's awesome.

[00:49:50]
That's okay.

[00:49:51]
I like I said, research, research.

[00:49:56]
Revolver.

[00:49:57]
Aselot.

[00:50:00]
Next big, big one for me, which again, he could clearly be like the

[00:50:04]
the true villain of the movie, I guess, as they if they wanted to.

[00:50:07]
My hand, my hand.

[00:50:10]
Two things, two things that get me for this.

[00:50:13]
And I think one's more of like a stunt casting and one would be more like longevity.

[00:50:18]
I do think Vigo Mortensen would probably own this character if he really needed to.

[00:50:24]
But I for the one that really in my heart, I think could own it is Jerome Flynn.

[00:50:28]
If you guys are familiar with him, he played.

[00:50:31]
Oh, boy, Bron.

[00:50:33]
Oh, yeah.

[00:50:35]
So I think he could pull it off.

[00:50:37]
If he had good hair, I don't know if that's a thing he could do.

[00:50:40]
But if he has good hair and a good mustache, he could own it as far as because you need

[00:50:44]
that like that needs to sell like the mystique of Ocelot to just be like, Google, what is this guy?

[00:50:49]
If the Lord could endow him with good hair, you just get that guy.

[00:50:53]
I just don't know how he looks with good hair.

[00:50:54]
He looks good with a you know, with a suit of armor and a and he's got a hell

[00:50:58]
of a disposition about himself where, you know, he can he can laugh at anyone.

[00:51:02]
And I also think it's funny.

[00:51:04]
So he's got that going for him.

[00:51:06]
Tory Revolver.

[00:51:10]
So.

[00:51:12]
It's funny that somebody mentioned Daniel Day-Lewis earlier

[00:51:16]
because after seeing there will be there will be blood.

[00:51:19]
I was convinced that this guy could do Revolver Ocelot.

[00:51:24]
He's just like there will be blood.

[00:51:26]
Daniel Day-Lewis is such an enigma.

[00:51:29]
Daniel Day-Lewis could do literally any role you gave him.

[00:51:34]
I think the difficulty is getting him to want to do it.

[00:51:38]
Yeah, that's that's fair.

[00:51:40]
I think so.

[00:51:41]
I don't know. Revolver Ocelot is is crazy.

[00:51:43]
So that's true.

[00:51:44]
Yeah, I was outside of him being retired.

[00:51:46]
I would what I would laugh what I would absolutely love is during the entire

[00:51:49]
production of this movie, we would have a real life Revolver Ocelot out on the streets.

[00:51:54]
Oh, absolutely.

[00:51:54]
He is full method.

[00:51:55]
So I would love I would do anything to get recordings of him like on set,

[00:52:00]
not, you know, filming just being Revolver Ocelot.

[00:52:03]
All over the flip and fucking guns and shit.

[00:52:05]
It would be so awesome.

[00:52:08]
Yeah.

[00:52:08]
If if if Daniel Day had to be in one like franchise pop culture video game

[00:52:14]
property, I feel like this would be the one I would I would absolutely want him to be in.

[00:52:18]
Agreed.

[00:52:19]
Yeah, he fits both.

[00:52:20]
He takes himself too seriously, which almost works like a total for this sort of franchise.

[00:52:26]
I totally agree.

[00:52:27]
What about you, Alessio?

[00:52:28]
How you feeling for Revolver?

[00:52:30]
Dude, I I thought it would be a very funny reference to the entire

[00:52:35]
voice actor debacle to have Kiefer's father, Donald Sutherland play Revolver Ocelot.

[00:52:43]
Also, I think he's got the look like pretty damn nailed.

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I don't know if he could do the voice or the or the charisma, but I think in like

[00:52:51]
in a still photo, you could dress up, Donald Sutherland to be for totally Revolver Ocelot.

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Did you watch the undoing that just recently came out?

[00:53:01]
I did not.

[00:53:02]
Is he in it?

[00:53:03]
He's in it.

[00:53:03]
He's not like a huge role, but he's pretty pretty big in it.

[00:53:06]
But the last episode, he's got like such a great like monologue.

[00:53:10]
And he just was out like, I'm a cocksucker, but not in the gave proverbial way that

[00:53:15]
people butcher it now.

[00:53:16]
I talk about like an old school cocksucker.

[00:53:19]
Like, it's so good that I like you over like a cocksucker.

[00:53:22]
It's so good.

[00:53:24]
It's great.

[00:53:24]
He would totally kill it.

[00:53:25]
I totally agree.

[00:53:27]
I love it.

[00:53:27]
Hell yeah.

[00:53:29]
All right.

[00:53:30]
Siggent, the DARPA chief, which I did.

[00:53:35]
I did basically keep them separate from spoilers, D.

[00:53:38]
Quinn octopus.

[00:53:41]
I think somebody's just screaming.

[00:53:43]
Somebody's just like, quite spoiling the 35 year old game.

[00:53:49]
I think Jeffrey Wright would fucking own being Siggent in general, but like just

[00:53:55]
also the DARPA chief in this movie.

[00:53:56]
So I think Jeffrey Wright would kill it.

[00:53:57]
If anybody knows him, he plays Felix Lider in the new Bond films.

[00:54:00]
He was in the hungry movies.

[00:54:03]
Just a long line of just like he's just a great classically trained actor

[00:54:06]
that is really good in the movies he's in.

[00:54:10]
So I love him.

[00:54:12]
It's awesome.

[00:54:14]
What about you, Tori?

[00:54:16]
Oh, I already gave mine.

[00:54:19]
I'm going to stick with the Idris Elba.

[00:54:21]
Idris Elba.

[00:54:22]
So OK, so there wouldn't be you technically wouldn't have

[00:54:24]
D. Quinn octopus you would have.

[00:54:27]
What's it called?

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The DARPA chief we meet is the the only time you would see the quote unquote DARPA chief.

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Yeah, I just again, I never separated the two.

[00:54:36]
That was my bad. Love it.

[00:54:38]
Totally fine.

[00:54:39]
It plays with our expectations.

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I I might be shitting on some Hollywood royalty here, but I'm going to have to

[00:54:46]
say that we need to take a time machine to de-age my pick a little bit.

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But I'm going to give it to oldest living and earliest surviving best actor

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Academy Award and I believe I believe I might be wrong.

[00:54:59]
First black actor with an Academy Award, Sydney Poitiers.

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But specifically from like I would say specifically like maybe 80s era.

[00:55:10]
Nice.

[00:55:11]
Sydney Poitiers.

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That's perfect.

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He's good. He's good.

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He just he's got a really good look to him.

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Yeah, I agree.

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Yeah, he's got and he's got the look his voice his voice is right there too,

[00:55:24]
because I I don't know about you guys, but obviously when you know,

[00:55:26]
years down the road when we get to Metal Gear Solid one, that's like one of the

[00:55:29]
first like sets of cutscenes that I know really, really well because I start

[00:55:33]
Metal Gear Solid one a lot.

[00:55:34]
So like if it hadn't been for the revolution, I know all those lines so much.

[00:55:40]
Yeah, exactly.

[00:55:42]
So I like I could see him like owning those fucking lines so easily.

[00:55:47]
Just yeah, I think what is fantastic.

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I think I've got the sound effects of the Darp

[00:55:50]
Achieve dying of a heart attack hard burned into my memory for the rest of my life.

[00:55:55]
That's what you're going to echo.

[00:55:58]
Yeah, with the crazy echo.

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That's so good.

[00:56:01]
That's awesome.

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OK, so then I started like sort of I forgot to add I did want to put Baker in there

[00:56:08]
because we do President Baker.

[00:56:10]
I totally I missed I missed Kenneth.

[00:56:11]
So I'm going to have to do some speed casting real quick.

[00:56:14]
I chose I had two picks that I would have gone with.

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I would have said Brendan Gleason.

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Yep.

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If you guys are familiar with him, he definitely looks the part.

[00:56:22]
He's a fantastic actor that has shown up in everything.

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He is the dad of Donald Donald Gleason, who is in Harry Potter movies.

[00:56:30]
He was in what's the other one he's really good in.

[00:56:35]
Ex Machina in Bruce in Bruce.

[00:56:38]
Well, I guess it's so good.

[00:56:40]
Yeah, Brendan Gleason is just like he's was in the 28 days later movies.

[00:56:43]
I think they're the first one 28 days later.

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He's just like a classic actor that just runs people into the ground

[00:56:50]
when he's like sharing a room with them.

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Or I would pick.

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Oh, why is his name escaping me because I didn't have it in front of me.

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Brian Cox would have been my other one for Baker.

[00:57:01]
If you guys know Brian Cox, he was the captain in Super Troopers.

[00:57:06]
But he's like a legitimately good actor who has been in like all the boring movies.

[00:57:09]
He was in Trick or Treats.

[00:57:11]
Men X man, right?

[00:57:13]
He plays striker and X men.

[00:57:14]
So he's just got a long laundry list of great shit.

[00:57:17]
And my favorite crossover, Ex Machina, man.

[00:57:21]
X, X, X, Menachina.

[00:57:24]
X Menachina.

[00:57:25]
I like that.

[00:57:25]
So, Tori, hey, who do you have for a baker?

[00:57:32]
I have Brendan Gleason cast as kind of baker.

[00:57:37]
It's already done. It's booked.

[00:57:38]
Like, I don't know why it's not on IMDb yet.

[00:57:41]
It's crazy. I.

[00:57:43]
Yeah. So you're rushed to find a cast.

[00:57:45]
What do you got? No, no, no.

[00:57:46]
So it's funny as the words left my mouth, I'm going to have to research.

[00:57:51]
My brain went, no, you're not, baby.

[00:57:53]
I got this.

[00:57:54]
And I think you shave his head and shave his face and 100 percent.

[00:58:02]
It has to be the actor's name is totally.

[00:58:06]
It's giving me right now. Hold on.

[00:58:08]
It has to be.

[00:58:10]
Oh, for fuck's sake. Come on.

[00:58:12]
What is this actor's fucking name?

[00:58:14]
Gainty's like, John C. Riley, Jesus Christ.

[00:58:16]
Oh, yeah. OK. Yeah.

[00:58:18]
He could pull it. He's got chops.

[00:58:20]
100 percent.

[00:58:21]
And we'll we'll Ferrell movies.

[00:58:22]
So just liver spot the shit out of them and have him slumped over

[00:58:26]
with a bunch of pillows under his under his shirt.

[00:58:28]
And we'll call it just everything hurts all the time.

[00:58:31]
Yeah. No, I love I love I love John C. Riley.

[00:58:35]
Oh, don't touch.

[00:58:36]
Yeah, he's great in Magnolia and lobster.

[00:58:38]
Oh, he's so good at Magnolia.

[00:58:40]
He's very good at Magnolia.

[00:58:43]
All right, moving on, Sniper Wolf.

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I had two that I picked that I basically went depending on how they

[00:58:51]
wanted to age Sniper Wolf, because I do think that both these women

[00:58:54]
are flames regardless of their age.

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I had Famka Jansen, who is like she's in Goldeneye, but she's been in like

[00:59:02]
Rounders and she was Jean Gray in the X-Men movies.

[00:59:05]
But then I also figured get a little Kojima in there and I picked Leia Seydoux.

[00:59:11]
She was fragile in the destiny.

[00:59:16]
Excuse me, she's fragile, but she's not fragile.

[00:59:18]
Oh, God, I'm thank you.

[00:59:19]
Yeah, get it right.

[00:59:20]
Got him.

[00:59:22]
What about you, Tori?

[00:59:22]
Sniper Wolf.

[00:59:24]
This is a weird out of left field pick, I think.

[00:59:28]
But it's again, because of the voice, I can hear her doing the softer

[00:59:33]
spoken kind of monologuing Maggie Gyllenhaal.

[00:59:37]
OK.

[00:59:40]
Interesting, interesting.

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Maggie, is it a soft maggy Gyllenhaal?

[00:59:45]
OK, sure. She's she's she's Jake's sister.

[00:59:48]
Right. Yeah, that's just what it is, right?

[00:59:50]
She's not she hasn't earned her own chops.

[00:59:53]
Oh, no.

[00:59:55]
You know, it's it's Jake's big sister, you know.

[00:59:58]
Oh, my God, that's amazing.

[01:00:02]
And then who for you and will she have green hair?

[01:00:06]
For sure, green hair.

[01:00:07]
And I went surely staring.

[01:00:10]
Yeah, it's Charlie's the wrong.

[01:00:15]
The wrong.

[01:00:16]
Yeah, yeah, but no, I don't know why.

[01:00:19]
But surely staring, I think would would kill it.

[01:00:21]
That's a rule. Sure.

[01:00:23]
I can see that looking good.

[01:00:25]
Yeah, I could see that.

[01:00:26]
I feel bad because she like after the fast movies,

[01:00:31]
I'm kind of like bummed out that she's in those movies

[01:00:34]
because she's I don't really like her character in that.

[01:00:36]
But like clearly, like she can kill it.

[01:00:38]
Yeah, I can see her having a great, you know,

[01:00:40]
when she's shuffled off this mortal coil scene.

[01:00:44]
Yeah, it's yeah, I don't know.

[01:00:47]
It's so weird to me because she absolutely killed it in Mad Max.

[01:00:49]
Yeah, for some reason, the the casting for I don't know, even in like,

[01:00:53]
I mean, I didn't watch the films with the fast trailer that she was in.

[01:00:56]
I was like, what are you doing, girl? Get out of there.

[01:00:58]
Her name is Cypher in those movies.

[01:01:00]
Give her some credit. OK.

[01:01:02]
Cypher is her name in that.

[01:01:04]
And is she willing to trade her humanity

[01:01:07]
in exchange for steak dinners from The Matrix?

[01:01:10]
No, ignorance is bliss.

[01:01:13]
But no, she's Jason Statham's sister, I think.

[01:01:16]
His character sister, I think, where it's like Jason's sister, Jason's big sister.

[01:01:21]
Come on.

[01:01:23]
I OK, so then I did have Solid Snake just in case

[01:01:26]
anybody wanted to sort of like officially fancast it,

[01:01:29]
because I will argue that Oscar Isaac was not my first pick.

[01:01:33]
Hang on.

[01:01:34]
We have another character to do before we get to good old Solid Boy.

[01:01:39]
I was just going in alphabetical order.

[01:01:41]
Do you want me to go back? Oh, my bad. My bad.

[01:01:42]
No, you're good. It's OK.

[01:01:44]
That's all right. OK. I just thought we'd save.

[01:01:47]
You want to go? OK. You know what?

[01:01:51]
Vulcan Raven is another character that we would like to talk about

[01:01:55]
in this film being cast.

[01:01:59]
So I don't know if you guys watch the show Banshee,

[01:02:02]
but I casted Gino and I want to say it's Gino Seagr's is how it's pronounced.

[01:02:09]
If you know him well enough, I'm not saying I loved him in that show, per se,

[01:02:14]
because his character sort of overstayed his welcome, but he is a giant.

[01:02:18]
Holy shit, he looks perfect.

[01:02:19]
He is a giant man that had tattoos all over him,

[01:02:22]
and he literally has the deepest voice ever.

[01:02:25]
Well, he regularly talks.

[01:02:26]
If you want to just take a clip of him, he would be a perfect, a perfect Raven.

[01:02:31]
Yeah, he looks he literally looks like Raven.

[01:02:35]
Yeah, he's so good.

[01:02:36]
And like I said, just watch like a 30 second clip of him.

[01:02:39]
I think he shows up in like late second season of Banshee.

[01:02:41]
It won't be spoilers or anything, but he's just got such a great

[01:02:44]
like just how he carries himself is literally Raven because he plays

[01:02:47]
an American Indian that is all about like his homeland and all that stuff.

[01:02:52]
So it's all about like, you know, being one with nature and all that.

[01:02:56]
He literally already lived it in a previous role.

[01:02:59]
Yeah, just like slap a slap of Raven on that man's forehead

[01:03:01]
and get it thirsty for blood.

[01:03:03]
Get it. Good and thirsty.

[01:03:05]
That's a good pick.

[01:03:06]
And he's a big man, too.

[01:03:07]
So like he could clearly carry five thousand rounds for his gun.

[01:03:11]
He could also carry me.

[01:03:13]
Yeah.

[01:03:15]
He could carry on my wayward son.

[01:03:19]
Tory, Vulcan Raven, who is your pick?

[01:03:22]
Well, I guess I went with the obvious here, maybe.

[01:03:24]
But Jason Momoa was my Vulcan Raven.

[01:03:29]
I. Yeah.

[01:03:32]
I like that.

[01:03:33]
I feel like it would be better if it was Jason Momoa

[01:03:36]
pre game of Thrones, because they think Jason Momoa is just Jason Momoa

[01:03:41]
in things now. He's not like. Yeah.

[01:03:43]
Yeah, it's like he's not like, wow, that guy's really cool.

[01:03:47]
It's it's almost like the rock.

[01:03:49]
Like you just can't separate the persona from the human anymore.

[01:03:54]
Yeah, especially since he's a DC.

[01:03:56]
He's Aquaman now.

[01:03:57]
It's just what it is.

[01:03:58]
Well, I was thinking even even Game of Thrones, Jason Momoa as Cal Drogo

[01:04:04]
was a pretty good representation.

[01:04:06]
Oh, sure. Oh, for sure.

[01:04:07]
For sure. I what I mean is like the popularity of him as a human being.

[01:04:10]
Like I wish you could roll it back because like now if he appears in things,

[01:04:14]
it's not it's not Vulcan Raven.

[01:04:16]
It's Jason Momoa as Vulcan Raven. You know what I mean?

[01:04:18]
Yeah, you want like Baywatch, Jason Momoa, right?

[01:04:23]
I think he was in wasn't he in Baywatch?

[01:04:25]
Am I wrong there?

[01:04:27]
I think the rock is in Baywatch, actually.

[01:04:29]
Well, he's in the movie Baywatch.

[01:04:30]
I'm talking about the TV show Baywatch.

[01:04:32]
Oh, I didn't realize.

[01:04:33]
He had Jason Ianoe was his pronounced name and he was in 2044 episodes.

[01:04:41]
Baywatch from 1991.

[01:04:43]
Moran is a human robot when it comes to

[01:04:48]
he also is in the TV movie, Hawaiian wedding Baywatch.

[01:04:51]
So just give a little bit more in child.

[01:04:53]
That's my favorite TV movie.

[01:04:57]
Yeah.

[01:04:59]
Alessia, what about you for Mr.

[01:05:02]
Raven? Same as these.

[01:05:04]
Momoa. Yeah.

[01:05:06]
Momoa. I like it.

[01:05:07]
OK. Well, pre pre DC.

[01:05:10]
Momoa is where your your heart lies.

[01:05:12]
I mean, I'll take him at any point.

[01:05:13]
I just I just wish people could like bleed into the character.

[01:05:17]
You know what I mean? Like sure.

[01:05:19]
Yeah, I don't know.

[01:05:20]
It just becomes it becomes

[01:05:23]
cameo calling at the.

[01:05:25]
You know what I mean?

[01:05:25]
Like, yeah, because I think he would kill it in the role.

[01:05:28]
But I think everybody would be like, oh, my God, it's Jason.

[01:05:30]
I'm all you know, like, is that Jason Momoa's music?

[01:05:34]
Yeah. Why are all these?

[01:05:35]
Why are all these moms that metal gear?

[01:05:37]
What's happening? Oh, it's Jason Momoa.

[01:05:41]
Oh, they have Jason Momoa.

[01:05:42]
Oh, that's so bad.

[01:05:44]
Yeah. But anyway, no, I think you'd be good for it.

[01:05:47]
And then obviously our final piece, like I said,

[01:05:49]
Oscar Isaac is Solid Snake.

[01:05:52]
But did anyone have like a fan casting

[01:05:54]
prior to finding out it's Oscar Isaac?

[01:05:56]
I will give Oscar Isaac his due and say that I do think he can do the role.

[01:05:59]
I like Oscar Isaac in a lot of films and even the bad ones he's in.

[01:06:04]
I wouldn't say he's the reason they're bad.

[01:06:07]
And he clearly has shown that he can do a little bit of both.

[01:06:09]
He's done the Army soldier.

[01:06:10]
He's done, you know, drama, I would say he's done like what?

[01:06:13]
He was a tech billionaire, you know, like disassociated.

[01:06:16]
He's just a madman and he's been in a lot of shit.

[01:06:18]
So I will give him the due and I he can hold the franchise.

[01:06:21]
So fingers crossed.

[01:06:24]
But if I had to pick anyone, I did go for Chris Evans,

[01:06:31]
just a heavily bearded bandamn.

[01:06:33]
Interesting. Chris Evans, who I think would fucking nail it.

[01:06:36]
And clearly he has the ass for it.

[01:06:42]
Chris, did you watch the leaked Chris Evans sex tape?

[01:06:45]
In order to confirm that?

[01:06:49]
No, what was it?

[01:06:49]
Metal rear solid?

[01:06:50]
He played a cameo in that.

[01:06:52]
So that's just got, you know, got it got it right off the bat there.

[01:06:56]
What about you, Tori?

[01:06:57]
Did you have like a dream casting?

[01:06:58]
It's OK if you didn't, I just wanted to throw a line out there.

[01:07:01]
No, I definitely do.

[01:07:03]
Mine is Carl Urban.

[01:07:04]
I just think he's he's got the look down.

[01:07:07]
He's got the attitude down.

[01:07:10]
He's in the boys most recently.

[01:07:14]
Oh, wow. Yeah, he definitely does look the part.

[01:07:16]
Yeah.

[01:07:18]
Carl Urban, so I've known him a long time

[01:07:21]
because I love him to death.

[01:07:22]
It's so funny how like people all watch a movie and they're like, oh,

[01:07:24]
shit, that's Carl Urban.

[01:07:26]
Like he's in Lord of the Rings.

[01:07:28]
Oh, shit. He's in the Star Trek.

[01:07:31]
Yeah, he's all over the place.

[01:07:32]
He is dread.

[01:07:33]
Oh, dude, talk about an underrated action movie.

[01:07:36]
I fucking love dread.

[01:07:37]
He's so good.

[01:07:38]
He's really good.

[01:07:40]
Yeah. Yeah, Carl Urban's great.

[01:07:41]
That's a fucking and he can clearly like he can ham it up.

[01:07:45]
Again, I'd recommend the boys for anyone who hasn't seen it.

[01:07:49]
He can ham it up.

[01:07:50]
He can be serious.

[01:07:50]
Yeah, he's even in the Marvel universe.

[01:07:52]
He played what Slag or whatever his name is.

[01:07:54]
He's in like the he's in the Thor movies.

[01:07:57]
He's like one of the like third rate villains who like gets a big

[01:08:01]
comedic set because he's in the one with Tiger with TT.

[01:08:04]
Let's let's let's just not forget his greatest role,

[01:08:09]
which was playing Julius Caesar on Xena Warrior Princess

[01:08:13]
in 2001 and 1990.

[01:08:14]
That's amazing.

[01:08:15]
I remember wasn't he in that like show, like Become Human or whatever it was called

[01:08:19]
that lasted like one episode?

[01:08:22]
Oh, shit on sci fi.

[01:08:23]
I know what you're talking about.

[01:08:24]
Almost almost. Yeah.

[01:08:26]
Well, I said like a season or like half a season.

[01:08:29]
He had like the best name like Kinex or something crazy like that.

[01:08:33]
Amazing. Oh, he was on Ghost Ship.

[01:08:35]
I didn't know that.

[01:08:37]
That's dope.

[01:08:38]
What about you, Alessio, before we round up this bad boy and get you out of here?

[01:08:42]
Yeah. So I went with I was going to to me.

[01:08:46]
He's the guy from re Antoinette.

[01:08:48]
But to most women over 40,

[01:08:51]
he is going to be Christian Gray from Fifty Shades of Gray.

[01:08:54]
I went with Jamie Dornan.

[01:08:57]
I don't know. I don't know why.

[01:09:00]
But this Northern Irish boy for me

[01:09:03]
looked like he could he could he could do he could do it.

[01:09:06]
I could. Did you see what's the thing I know him from the most?

[01:09:10]
Did you see the fall?

[01:09:11]
No, I did not. But that's all my he's really good in the fall.

[01:09:16]
He's like a he's like the villain in that show.

[01:09:18]
And he's just like really, really charismatic and like really nails it.

[01:09:23]
And that's when I was like, oh, shit, because when they first Fifty Shades of Gray,

[01:09:26]
come out, I was like, yeah, the dude from the fall.

[01:09:28]
I was like, that sucks for him.

[01:09:30]
It's like he's going to be in the Fifty Shades movies.

[01:09:32]
Yeah. Oh, I'm sure he got paid very well.

[01:09:34]
Yeah. I mean, everybody knows him from Trolls World Tour.

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Oh, of course. Yeah.

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He played Chaz, everyone's favorite troll.

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I watched it every night.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's my go to bed movie.

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I totally agree.

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All right. Well, thanks for coming out, Alessio.

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Yeah, of course. Tori.

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We definitely, like I said, the bat signal from Shadow Moses went out.

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We had to definitely do something about this casting as soon as we could.

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But we wanted to give it its proper do and actually like do some research

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before we just drop an apple.

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It sucks having to having to find my way into this abandoned military

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facility every time we want to record.

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I don't know if people at home know this or not, but we record from the ruins

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of Shadow Moses Island every time we record this podcast.

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But yeah, Out of Con's Lab was just fine after all of the damage, you know.

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Yeah, it's crazy.

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The pre-production that the pre and post production

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of Alessio puts into these to get that echo out of here.

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It's just amazing.

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Yeah, we just throw some space heaters in the corner and call it a day.

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Yeah, it's just engines running.

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There is a weird energy from Gray Fox in there, though.

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So sometimes it gets crazy.

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You just get some random.

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You just hear the background.

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Oh, yeah, I forgot about this.

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All my notes get blown around for some reason.

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I love it.

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So yeah, so thanks again, guys.

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We do have plenty of stuff coming up in the new year, even a few more episodes

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before this year is over.

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I would say wherever you're grabbing this podcast, we'd appreciate it if you found

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a way to like review any way you can.

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It goes a long way as far as the algorithm is concerned.

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If you want to grab some stuff from us, you can go to Metal Gear Mondays.com.

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If you want to see anything about past and current hosts, we are on Patreon

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at Metal Gear Mondays.

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So by all means, check us out on Patreon.

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I would say, Tori, where can they find you on the Internet?

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You can find me on Discord server sometimes and sometimes some other

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social media places sometimes as young Neil.

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That's Y-N-G-N-E-I-L.

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Love it.

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And Ghost Dad.

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Hello.

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Where can they find you in anything you want to plug?

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Feel free to drop it in.

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Yeah, so they can find me at AC Summerfield on pretty much anything and everything.

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And likewise, then I'm going to go ahead and hard dedicate myself to making

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sure this happens before this episode goes up.

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I am finally posting some YouTube content to a very, very strange project.

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And currently we don't have enough subscribers to have a custom URL.

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But if you go to bit.ly slash professional consumer, you can see my weird YouTube

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project that I'm doing with a friend of mine.

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So I'm excited to introduce you to my friend.

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And yeah, that's that's pretty much it.

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Well, that's awesome, man.

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Yeah, I'm excited.

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I hope some of the patrons have gotten a little little previous taste of this.

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Oh, yeah, it'll be fun.

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You just dropped a giant personal accountability bomb by Mason on this episode.

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Yeah, it's neat.

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And of course, you can find me.

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I'm at Warren Minix on all the socials where it matters.

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If you care about gamer tags, I'm untaggable gamer.

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I'm in a band, Spooky Faro.

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Check us out on Spotify.

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Is that something fancy?

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Outside of that, thank you again, guys, for joining me on this.

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Chris, enjoy your location scouting.

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We can't wait to have you back.

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And let's let it rip, Jack.

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Hey.